daisy jane Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 Hall of Forms Good Draug, Merric BAD. Marth is my star right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanima Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Still can't beat the last map, because even stacked to the teeth with amazing skills won't help these gen wunners against any 3rd gen with decent stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mampfoid Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Already finished the last map some time ago, but I'm sad Marth can't get heavy blade and Galeforce. Caeda got great skills, but Draug and Merric are ... well Draug and Merric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterIceTeaPeach Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) With a 1.5 man show (Merric and a bit Caeda) I could beat the game. As much as I hate Merric in this game, he was godlike with swift sparrow 3, special spiral, odd attack wave and rising thunder (=Ophelia build) . Draug and Marth were basically only bait. They have done like nothing, ended at ~ level 25. In general it kinda sucks that only the MVP got a bonus after the map, so there was no chance to buff either Marth or Draug. It would be better, if the buff would be passed around to all characters after each map. Edited December 29, 2019 by Zemuria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landmaster Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Finally finished~ Lord, I kept getting screwed with the last map~ Final stat: Marth: Lv 40+1. Wo Gun (Def), Reposition, Ignis, Atk/Spd Push 4, Escape Route, Odd Speed Wave, Heavy Blade Caeda: Lv 40+1. Blue Gift (Atk), Rally Atk/Def+, Sturdy Impact, Spd/Res Ruse, Pulse Smoke, Darting Stance Draug: Lv 40+2. Geishun (Atk), Pivot, Mirror Stance 2, Vengeful Fighter, Joint Hone Atk, Close Def Merric: Lv 40+2. Dark Excalibur (Eff), Swap, Glimmer, Flashing Blade 4, Null Follow-Up, Atk Smoke Draug still missing a Special and Merric with no Seal irks me so I'll be trying to get them something before this thing ends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Caeda Marth and Merric were all great Draug was kinda eh but I gave Repo to Marth so I can catapult him into the enemy and let him go crazy. My Draug had Blue Flame Def refine Wo Dao and nothing in his A slot until level 35 because they didnt give him anything that went well with wary fighter LOL I did get my hands on threaten atk/spd 3 for him though. And that was an amazing interaction that pretty much worked every time ~ After I beat the final chamber I went back and gave everyone a merge and tried to complete their sets with good-ish skills. Marths set was the most suckish but he still held water. Atk/Res Oath Blarblade Caeda was definitely the dumbest thing ever Marth: Spoiler Caeda: Spoiler Draug: Spoiler Merric: Spoiler Wings of MRSA did nothing for Merric LOL It's there to fill the space Marths set is probably the most random but because his speed is so high from the refine he was great as mixed phase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endriu Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Somehow I managed to beat ch20 today. Got a 3opponent map. Happy that this one is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy jane Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) i don't know who sucks more Merric or Draug. (Merric because despite Draugs 2 res he still tanks hits better than Merric) Edited December 29, 2019 by daisy jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 12 minutes ago, daisy jane said: i don't know who sucks more Merric or Draug. Merric is MLG 👀 You must not have been doing it right... Draug is just sluggish but even he is useful This game mode isnt even hard or painful anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRay Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 16 minutes ago, daisy jane said: i don't know who sucks more Merric or Draug. (Merric because despite Draugs 2 res he still tanks hits better than Merric) Merric can be decent with Gronnblade. If you are using his regular tome, he is basically a green archer and he can be okay with Close Counter. As for Draug, you kind of need Reposition on his allies or give him Armor Boots to move him forward. Smite works too if Reposition is not showing up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy jane Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Just now, XRay said: Merric can be decent with Gronnblade. If you are using his regular tome, he is basically a green archer and he can be okay with Close Counter. As for Draug, you kind of need Reposition on his allies or give him Armor Boots to move him forward. Smite works too if Reposition is not showing up. they aren't getting anything though. i get it's random but no CC, no DC no repo skills for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Branniglenn Posted December 29, 2019 Author Share Posted December 29, 2019 I got Merric his refined Excalibur since I figure effectiveness will push his damage high enough on the right targets. He took on F!Morgan on enemy phase, blue fliers gotta be his best matchup, right? He didn't even come close to the one shot. I've also been leveling Draug more than other units since I figure his stats will be his only saving grace. Yeah this mode becomes much trickier when they go out of their way to pick outdated units who lack prfs. But having units like this no doubt increases the build variety. So I don't know which I prefer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy jane Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Glennstavos said: I got Merric his refined Excalibur since I figure effectiveness will push his damage high enough on the right targets. He took on F!Morgan on enemy phase, blue fliers gotta be his best matchup, right? He didn't even come close to the one shot. I've also been leveling Draug more than other units since I figure his stats will be his only saving grace. Yeah this mode becomes much trickier when they go out of their way to pick outdated units who lack prfs. But having units like this no doubt increases the build variety. So I don't know which I prefer. i like it. It was just tough. i barely got anything helpful. Caeda got Spooky Sensor +Res right off the bat, Ruptured sky, then Time's Pulse, then Fotress Def/Res (so her res is sky high) everyone else has the same skill. (because it's the only one that showed up: hone atk 4. marth got fury 4 and i just change his stuff around but he's good. Merrric and Draug i just didn't get anything decent for them. but now that i am like two rows away from tier 20 i'm fine. lol i legit thought i'd never get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRay Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 17 minutes ago, daisy jane said: they aren't getting anything though. i get it's random but no CC, no DC no repo skills for them. Yeah, that could be tough with the RNG. I wish they would expand the pool of options to at least 3 or 4 skills per slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy jane Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 1 minute ago, XRay said: Yeah, that could be tough with the RNG. I wish they would expand the pool of options to at least 3 or 4 skills per slot. yeah so for example. Merric got Dark Excaliber. so okay me: let's get him a cool special or hope he gets special spiral. ALL OF HIS SPECIALS were like nothing helpful. at all. B skills. nothing. then he got his prf. so that made it a bit easier. Draug keeps getting Geishun and Safeguard lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRay Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 1 minute ago, daisy jane said: yeah so for example. Merric got Dark Excaliber. so okay me: let's get him a cool special or hope he gets special spiral. ALL OF HIS SPECIALS were like nothing helpful. at all. B skills. nothing. then he got his prf. so that made it a bit easier. Draug keeps getting Geishun and Safeguard lol I went with Geishun cause I could not find Barrier Blade. At least the Geishun I got had Res Refinement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanima Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 RNG was finally kind enough to give me a map that was actually possible to beat. Flying Nino almost ruined things, but it worked out in the end. Still wish there were more restrictions on what units can appear so I won't have to face monsters like F!Tiki with such a clown brigade again. That's basically an auto-lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy jane Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Am finished. and just as an indication how crappy my choices were. Caeda's final choice was A: Defiant Speed B: Seal Atk😄 Threaten Res yeup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMT4ever Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 My Draug was disgustingly good, even without having a special until after I'd already beaten Chamber 20. +Spd Heart's Blade (the first thing he got) Pivot Moonbow Atk/Spd Bond 4 Dull Close 3 Joint Hone Spd Adding Marth's Hagoita, Merric's Joint Hone Def, and Caeda's Hone Atk 4 and Rally Spd/Res+ gave him a maximum boost of +17/18/10/11, which killed pretty much anything in melee. My C-skills really were on point this time around, especially since Caeda and Merric both got Blade tomes. Specials on the other hand were nearly worthless. Aside from Glacies on Caeda it was just a never-ending rain of AoE garbage until after I'd already beaten everything. All in all, another fun one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Someone explain to me how Merric with his unique tome is outdoing a -blade Caeda. She wins on red, he blows up just about everything else that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilodicMellodi Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) I'm incredibly disappointed. The enemies were so disgustingly overpowered in the later stages compared to my units that I lost at least 5 times total. I'd also missed 2 days, so that's effectively over 10 stamina worth of merges/skills lost. In the end, Marth was the only one who got a full set, and everyone else got pretty much nothing of real quality. He had Slaying Axe+ (+Atk), Rally Atk/Def+, Galeforce, Atk/Spd Push 4, Chill Atk 3, Def Opening 3, and Brazen Atk/Spd 3. I also merged him up to +5. Caeda had Blue Gift+ (+Res), Blazing Wind, Drive Def 2, and Deflect Magic 3. She could barely do her job as a mage-killer correctly, even with her high Spd and Res. She ended up being more of a magic tank than a mage killer, because he had no offensive presence whatsoever. She got +4 in merges. Draug was the worst of the lot in terms of skills. He only got Sandfort Spade+ (+Atk) and Ignis. He always got jack shit in terms of good skill rolls, always getting something to increase his Spd or Res instead of his Atk or Def. At least he had the most merges at +6. Then there's Merric. He had Dark Excalibur (+Eff), Moonbow, Fort. Def/Res 3, Even Spd Wave 3, and Chill Spd 3. I didn't even get to use Moonbow on him at all, as I obtained it after using the last of my stamina after the new day. And in terms of his usefulness, he honestly sucked without a Special at all. He had +4 in merges. In terms of their overall performance, they were complete trash. My 4th loss was a complete slaughter, and guess why? Because the enemy Forsyth took literally 0 DAMAGE from 3 OF MY UNITS. He wasn't even adjacent to anyone, and he STILL took absolutely 0 damage from THREE of my units. The only one who actually dealt any damage to him was Marth, and it didn't even matter anyhow because of Sol Lance (so really, all Marth did was charge Forsyth's Special). I mean, you'd think Merric — a Green Mage at Level 40 with multiple merges — would've been able to do anything...but nope. Draug, Caeda, and Merric didn't do shit. I was only able to finally complete Chamber 20 this morning with sheer dumb luck. I hope we never have to deal with having such shitty units in HoF again. If we do, I don't even care about the rewards...I'll just skip it. I'll treat it as just another Tap Battle. What an utter waste of time and motivation...it actually made me angry to play this round of HoF. Edited January 4, 2020 by MilodicMellodi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javi Blizz Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Mi final team has been: - Groom Marth +2 : Slaying Hammer + (Spd), Reposition, Ignis, Brazen Atk/Spd 4, - , Atk Gap 3, - . - Bride Caeda +10 : Blàrblade+, Draw Back, Glacies, Atk/Spd Push 4, Mythic Boost, Joint Hone Atk, Sturdy Blow. (If only this was my unit and not a Form... T.T) - Draug +4 : Armorsmasher + (Spd), Rally Up Res+, - , Fortress Def/Res 4, - , Hone Atk 4, Quick Riposte - Merric +10 : Dark Excalibur (special), Rally Atk/Spd +, Blue Flame, Brazen Atk/Spd 4, Lull Atk/Spd, Time’s Pulse, Even Def Wave (I wish this was real too and not another Form T.T). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thane Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Quite a few losses this time around. I got either impatient or wanted to challenge myself to often disastrous results. I found it hard to use Draug in particular, and neither Merric nor Marth got particularly good skills until much later. My final team:Marth: +3, Wo Gùn+Spd, Draw Back, Ruptured Sky, Atk/Spd Bond 4, Lancebreaker, Def Smoke, Chill Attack sealCaeda: +2, Spooky Censer+Atk, Draw Back, Glimmer, Swift Sparrow 3, Chill Res, Savage Blow, Atk Tactic sealDraug: +1, Wo Dao+Def, Pivot, Noontime, Brazen Atk/Spd 4, Wrath 3, Even Def Wave, Quick Riposte sealMerric: +4, Dark Excalibur, Reposition, Moonbow, Sturdy Blow, Quick Riposte 3, Time's Pulse 3, Def Tactic seal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrhesia Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 I think having a shit team with bad / nonexistent Prfs made this a more interesting batch than the first crew, who slotted very quickly and effectively into their archetypes. That said, I would not be unhappy to never see an armour again... As this is clearly becoming a recurrent mode that doesn't need its own thread each time, I'm pinning it in the War Room instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordFrigid Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Unlike last time, I decided to continue playing after completing chamber 20. At the end, the team looked like: Marth Lv. 40 +0: Slaying Axe+ (Res), Rally Def/Res+, Ruptured Sky, Swift Sparrow 3, Atk/Spd Ruse 3, Hone Spd 4, Res Tactic 3 Caeda Lv. 40 +10: Blarblade+, Reposition, Iceberg, Atk/Spd Solo 3, Null Follow-Up 3, Atk/Res Oath 3, Brazen Atk/Def 3 Draug Lv. 40 +0: Slaying Edge+ (Res), Shove, Galeforce, Close Def 3, Atk/Def Link 3, Joint Hone Atk, Spur Def/Res 2 Merric Lv. 40 +3: Excalibur (Eff), Rally Atk/Def+, Glimmer, Warding Stance 4, Null C-Disrupt 3, Drive Atk 2, Speed +3 Draug had to go a pretty long way to get to his final spot, the poor guy was still only Lv. 19 after I cleared all the chambers. He never did end up rolling anything worth replacing Galeforce with... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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