Lord_Brand Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) Realistically, I imagine the six fighters will be something like this: Crash Bandicoot Dante Travis Touchdown Ryu Hayabusa Sol Badguy Character from Future Game Personally I would include Spyro in this list right under Crash, but I don't know if a particular third party will get to have more than one fighter per pass. Edited January 28, 2020 by Lord_Brand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Y'all had to ruin what was a good day for me. Time to take it out, in the form of warnings. Future posters, take note - excessive salt leads to warns. Please consider how to convey your disappointment without going over the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulously Olivier Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) Did.... did someone really just say that there is nothing that Dante or 2B can do that isn't already done by other characters? I.... I can't even... that's so absurd. Dante has a unique arsenal the size of Fort Knox that includes everything from Nunchucks to a magic guitar, to a weaponized briefcase, a motorbike that splits into axes, and a fucking fabulously magical Michael Jackson hat. 2B can swap between so many different weapon types on the fly, has light and heavy attacks with all of them, has a floating companion that shoots all manner of lazers and ballistics, and is every bit as acrobatic as Bayonetta or ZSS. Edited January 28, 2020 by Etheus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightcosmo Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 I'm happy with whatever we get at this point. But I would like to see: Rex/Pyra. Honestly at this point, I would rather see Lora/Jin, though. But I would be fine either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulously Olivier Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Just now, lightcosmo said: I'm happy with whatever we get at this point. But I would like to see: Rex/Pyra. Honestly at this point, I would rather see Lora/Jin, though. But I would be fine either way. Honestly, Rex/Pyra are the least interesting pair in XC2 (as is common with JRPGs, really). I would rather see any of them (especially Lora/Jin, Morag/Brigid, or Zeke/Pandoria). But let's face it, if anyone gets in, it's gonna be Rex/Pyra, and I'm okay with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotari Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 24 minutes ago, Etheus said: Did.... did someone really just say that there is nothing that Dante or 2B can do that isn't already done by other characters? I.... I can't even... that's so absurd. Dante has a unique arsenal the size of Fort Knox that includes everything from Nunchucks to a magic guitar, to a weaponized briefcase, a motorbike that splits into axes, and a fucking fabulously magical Michael Jackson hat. 2B can swap between so many different weapon types on the fly, has light and heavy attacks with all of them, has a floating companion that shoots all manner of lazers and ballistics, and is every bit as acrobatic as Bayonetta or ZSS. Honestly I find the whole "Can't do anything other characters can't do already" argument really trite. Even if two characters have the exact same basic concept, they can still be two entirely different fighters. Take Marth for example. He is a swordsman like Link. And in fact lacks the usage of bows, bombs boomerangs and a whole host of other things. They didn't even put his shield into Smash in any form. Yet he fights completely differently to Link. Hell that doesn't even begin to compare to most fighting games where 90% of the roster are just punching people in different ways. Just because a character can do something other characters can do already doesn't mean they'll do the same thing the same way. Shulk being in the game and having a time based ability doesn't mean the idea of using time powers in Smash has now been monopolized. There's dozens if not hundreds of different ways you could implement something like that into Smash that would be distinct enough to justify a different moveset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bk1234 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 My Personal Wants: 1. Phoenix Wright from Ace Attorney 2. Porky from Earthbound 3. Cinderace from Pokémon Sword and Shield 4. Sora from Kingdom Hearts 5. VERY UNPOPULAR OPINION but I don't care: Yuri/any of the Ashen Wolves from Fire Emblem Three Houses- I'd love Constance!! 6. Character from Animal Crossing New Horizons- any suggestions as to who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perkilator Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 Okay, here are my more realistic wants: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Marth 64 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) On 1/26/2020 at 1:32 PM, Lord_Brand said: I guess you could say Arle has "Puyo Popularity"? 😉 Incidentally, she would be the fourth SEGA rep after Sonic, Bayonetta, and Joker. Which would be kinda fitting for Nintendo's former rival, but I think other companies need higher priority now. We still don't have fighters from Ubisoft or Koei Tecmo, and they have some pretty obvious candidates like the Prince of Persia (preferably the Sands of Time version, though they could include other designs as costume swaps) and Ryu Hayabusa. Joker is technically fully Atlus character not a Sega character since Atlus name was added when company credits while Platinum Games was not added in the company credits when Bayonetta was added, Bayonetta is still a second Sega franchise rep. I don't think we might get a third Sega franchise rep in the Fighter Pass Vol. 2 since I still think we definitely need a second Namco, Atlus, SNK, and Microsoft franchise rep. (Mostly a Namco rep since Namco needed a second franchise rep in Ultimate) Edited February 4, 2020 by King Marth 64 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Brand Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, King Marth 64 said: Joker is technically fully Atlus character not a Sega character since Atlus name was added when company credits while Platinum Games was not added in the company credits when Bayonetta was added, Bayonetta is still a second Sega franchise rep. I don't think we might get a third Sega franchise rep in the Fighter Pass Vol. 2 since I still think we definitely need a second Namco, Atlus, SNK, and Microsoft franchise rep. (Mostly a Namco rep since Namco needed a second franchise rep in Ultimate) Atlus, which now fully belongs to SEGA, making Joker effectively a SEGA rep as much as Bomberman would effectively be a Konami rep. Edited February 4, 2020 by Lord_Brand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Marth 64 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Lord_Brand said: Atlus, which now fully belongs to SEGA, making Joker effectively a SEGA rep as much as Bomberman would effectively be a Konami rep. Except, Persona 5 nor the other Shin Megami Tensi games weren't published by Sega themselves, they were still published by Atlus. Also, Bomberman is an Assist Trophy not a Fighter in Ultimate. Edited February 4, 2020 by King Marth 64 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Brand Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, King Marth 64 said: Except, Persona 5 nor the other Shin Megami Tensi games weren't published by Sega themselves, they were still published by Atlus. Also, Bomberman is an Assist Trophy not a Fighter in Ultimate. But SEGA owns Atlus now, so Joker is effectively a SEGA rep. Joker belongs to Atlus, Atlus belongs to SEGA, therefore Joker belongs to SEGA through Atlus. That's what happens when your owning company becomes the subsidiary of another. And I was using a theoretical scenario where Bomberman is a Fighter as opposed to an Assist Trophy, hence the "would". Edited February 5, 2020 by Lord_Brand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jave Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 6 hours ago, Lord_Brand said: But SEGA owns Atlus now, so Joker is effectively a SEGA rep. Joker belongs to Atlus, Atlus belongs to SEGA, therefore Joker belongs to SEGA through Atlus. That's what happens when your owning company becomes the subsidiary of another. And I was using a theoretical scenario where Bomberman is a Fighter as opposed to an Assist Trophy, hence the "would". This is not always true. A company being a subsidiary of another does not necessarily mean the Mother company owns everything the subsidiary makes. If a subsidiary company is still its own, separate entity (like it is with Atlus) then they MIGHT retain partial, or even full ownership of their IPs, depending on how the Copyrights are handled with the mother company (SEGA, in this case). The situation with Bomberman is different. He used to be owned by its original creator, Hudson, which was ABSORBED by Konami, effectively ceasing to exist and therefore passing all of their IPs to Konami. On topic, here's my dream character choices, although there are a lot more characters I fully support: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Brand Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) Well okay, sure, if SEGA sold Atlus or Atlus somehow split off from SEGA to become an independent entity again, then Joker would probably go with them. But right now, Atlus belongs to SEGA, so as far as I'm concerned, Joker is another SEGA rep. He's a rep for a SEGA subsidiary, to be certain. I've got high hopes for Crash being one of the 6 DLCs. Spyro isn't as likely as Crash, and as much as I want Shantae and Krystal to be added, I know the chances are slim to none (the DLC comes from games not yet represented in Smash, and Star Fox and Shantae both have some kind of representation in SSBU already). I would rather the DLC not consist mostly of semi-realistic human males this time (hence why I'm not jumping on the Dante and Travis bandwagons), I'd like to see more girls and more cartoony characters since Smash is a game for good boys and girls of all ages. I wouldn't complain if they added Ryu Hayabusa though. Edited February 5, 2020 by Lord_Brand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bk1234 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) Predictions: 1. Crash (Crash Bandicoot) 2. Lloyd Irving (Tales of Symphonia) 3. Dante (Devil May Cry) 4. Travis Touchdown (No More Heroes) 5. Nintendo Rep (Recent/Upcoming Releases)- BOTW 2 Character (Untitled Sequel to LoZ BOTW) or Ring Fit Adventurer (Ring Fit Adventure) 6. Ryu Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden) What do you guys think? Edited February 25, 2020 by Bk1234 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Brand Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) Seems like a reasonable list, even if it is mostly more human males. My only concern about Ryu Hayabusa is that Koei Tecmo and Capcom have a history of lawsuits against one another; when Team Ninja was working on Hyrule Warriors, they pointedly avoided anything and everything to do with the Capcom-developed Zelda titles. Since Capcom has a solid footing in Smash now, I'm not sure KT will be willing to lend one of their stars to the game. The fact that Capcom recently won 1.3 million in the lastest lawsuit with KT would certainly put a sour taste in KT's mouth. So, I'm not feeling quite as certain about Ryu Hayabusa as I once did. I think we can agree that Crash is the next most likely fighter to make it in. We've all seen the reasons why, we just need Nintendo and Activision to confirm it for us now. I'm also hoping for Spyro, but Crash definitely has priority here. I'd really love it if Coco, Crunch, and maybe even Tawna could join the fun as part of a tag team with Crash, but that might be too much work for a single DLC slot, not to mention some people might consider it cheating. Some viable alternatives I would suggest include Lara Croft (she's been toned down to where she meets GBAGOAA standards), Miriam from Bloodstained (how fitting it would be for her to meet and battle her spiritual predecessor, Simon Belmont), and Yooka & Laylee (ditto for Banjo & Kazooie). Edited February 25, 2020 by Lord_Brand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bk1234 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 @Lord_Brand Wow! I was unaware of these lawsuits between Capcom and Koei Tecmo. Thank you for bringing them to my attention. I really felt the list was incomplete without a Square Enix rep and a female. I had trouble finding anyone who was likely and fit the bill. Who owns Lara Croft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Brand Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 You might want to look it up. I think you'll love the answer. ; ) But if you want it straight from me... Spoiler Square Enix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bk1234 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) @Lord_Brand Perfectly fits the bill! Hopefully, Lara Croft will get a little more than two music tracks if she gets in. Edited February 26, 2020 by Bk1234 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Brand Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 My main concern about Lara: does she have enough distinct moveset potential? Like Specials that feel Tomb Raidery? I know she can use a gun and pull off some acrobatic stunts. Can anyone more familiar with the series provide some insight as to unique moves or mechanics that will help separate Lara from the crowd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Emblem Fan Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 6 hours ago, Bk1234 said: Predictions: 1. Crash (Crash Bandicoot) 2. Lloyd Irving (Tales of Symphonia) 3. Dante (Devil May Cry) 4. Travis Touchdown (No More Heroes) 5. Nintendo Rep (Recent/Upcoming Releases)- BOTW 2 Character (Untitled Sequel to LoZ BOTW) or Ring Fit Adventurer (Ring Fit Adventure) 6. Ryu Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden) What do you guys think? I would be over the moon if Crash really was one of the next fighters. Seriously, he's my favorite gaming character EVER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Brand Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Wouldn't it be funnydorable if a bunch of other fighters did the Crash dance with Crash? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faustino Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) I don’t do predictions and I certainly don’t care who the six fighters will be, I welcome them all. Plus I already have Vol. 2 preordered. Edited February 26, 2020 by Faustino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fates-Blade Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) The characters I think are likely to be added in this list can be added in any order since I'm not going to predict the order too. 1. Either of these two characters are likely I think: Crash/Sora From what the creators said they don't want Sora in, and he's disconfirmed or something. Edit: From what a user said it doesn't seem Square disconfirmed Sora. 2. Between these two characters the bolded is the most likely I think: Cinderace/Rillaboom/Sirfetch'd Sirfetch'd doesn't have a gigantamax form for the Final Smash (if that works or matters? I haven't played Sword or Shield), plus Scorbunny is Go's first pokemon, and this can be considered his fully evolved Scorbunny. 3. Between these two characters the bolded is the most likely I think: Geno/Rhythm Heaven Rhythm Heaven might be too much work for the team that's tired now. 4. Perhaps all these characters bolded are the most likely I think: Ring Fit Adventure Character/Tracer/Dante/Master Chief/Lara Croft Dante might be too much work for the team that's tired now. EDIT M5/D13: It's ARMS. 5. Between these two franchises only one character can, be selected the bolded is who I think are the most likely: Adol Christin/Estelle Bright/Rean Schwarzer or Lloyd Irving/Yuri Lowell/Cress Albane The Tales characters might be less likely to be added in because of Overlimits, Arte links etc. 6. Between these two franchises only one character can, be selected the bolded is which I think are the most likely: Taki/Ryu Hayabusa/Strider Hiryu or Fei-Fong-Wong/Heihachi/Kazuya Mishima/Kos-Mos Ryu Hayabusa might be the easiest to make and yet distinct among the playable characters. Edited July 30, 2020 by Fates-Blade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bk1234 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 So after doing my initial predictions I thought to myself: Smash Bros is truly a celebration of gaming as a whole (classics, new/upcoming releases, different genres, etc.) These predictions reflect that. 1. Crash (Crash Bandicoot) 2. Lloyd Irving (Tales of Symphonia)/Agnes Oblige (Bravely Default)- I don't feel like Agnes should be brushed over. Bravely Default 2 is coming exclusively to the Switch in 2020, it is a possibility. What do you guys think? 3. Ryu Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden) 4. Upcoming/Recent Nintendo rep.- Any suggestions? I think it could be Ring Fit Adventurer or a BOTW 2 rep. If spirits don't deconfirm I could see Rex too. 5. Arle Nadja (Puyo Puyo) 6. Master Chief (Halo) So, overall, what do you guys think? Is this the right mindset to be in when predicting DLC? Do you think these predictions are solid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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