Fates conquest and birthright recruitment swap without emulator guide (streetpass>einherjar>logbook)

[mangasdeouf]

Hi,

So, my new obsession is trying to go through the game while swapping the units accessible (understand that I want to play Nohrians in Birthright and Hoshidans in Conquest). For people who still don't know how to do it without an emulator and an edited rom, I'll just expose you my way of doing it (although it takes a few hours to prepare):

1. Pick a really strong logbook unit who can solo the game (or look for one in My Castle, preferrably with galeforce although you can always teach it to that unit if it's not already lv 99 but what a waste of time it would be) and put the boots on it if it doesn't already have all stats capped (with statues for higher cap, like my logbook Keaton with 50 def 45 spd 47/8/9 str 38+ res with great knight as a friendship seal option, the great master lv 5 regen skill and gold/weapon drop farming skills (from blacksmith and merchant), this unit is very useful to solo the game but also to farm gold/ressources/hoshidan weapons in conquest, if you can find one I recommend you to use this kind of logbook unit)

2. Solo the game and recruit all characters you want

3. Build the einherjar (preferably to max rank it's faster) then go to the ball on the right of your throne (where you take the bonus items from paths, the pvp etc.), streetpass, change your defence, then put everyone on your defence team (there's a max, just repeat with the units you didn't select the 1st time so you get everyone in 2 rounds). When you have selected all your units to put into the logbook, go to the Einherjar and buy them (that's why you want a unit who can farm gold efficiently and fast), repeat with the 2nd row until you've got everyone in the logbook from the Einherjar bulding

4. DON'T FORGET TO SAVE, then reset the 3DS, go to another save file and check your logbook. Everyone from the other game should be there. Now save this file with the logbook full of the units you did all that for

5. Once you have saved your logbook in any other save file, you can delete the playthrough. You can now access all the Hoshidan/Nohrian units from any save file you want as long as you don't delete them from the logbook, you can also recruit them earlier than their join time in a same path case (let's say you want Odin in chapter 7 instead of 1X (very late) or whatever chapter he appears in in Rev, you can use him

6. You can also use this to transfer skills, secondary classes (I married Keaton to MU ninja to have the option to reclass Keaton to ninja and cumulate th fang skill with poison strike for -40% hp after a fight like these b*tch ennemy ninjas and faceless, so the Keaton I put into my logbook can access ninja from any save file even though he cannot support anyone)

7. Don't forget you can't make any logbook unit support another one, so you can't get marriages, children and buddies with your logbook units, if you want them, plan them before deleting the logbook filling playthrough

8. Conquest is practical for this since your units don't gain exp in DLC and non-cannon maps, so you can grind supports without modifying your units' level and stats/weapon ranks.

Good recruitment swap playthroughs to you, I hope it helped!

If you have other tips to add, please go on. I think "new players" or simply players who weren't familiar with the einherjar and logbook functionnalities can appreciate any information they can find.

Good thing: you can do it legally (unlike having a copy of a rom if you don't have the game) and no one can forbid you from doing that.

Edited February 11, 2020 by mangasdeouf

[Ertrick36]

I think you can also recruitment-swap with save editing - it's a more powerful tool as well, as you can change the units' stats however you wish (so you could theoretically level or delevel them based on growth rates).  The only problem is the possibility of getting shadow-banned, but I don't think you'll get banned so long as you don't tamper with the unit flag settings in the FE:Fates save editor.  It isn't too difficult to accomplish - unlike with normal rom hacking, all you really need is an SD card with the save data on it and a save editor.

Of course, the obvious best bet is using a hacked ROM to swap the rosters around, but that's for those familiar with ROM hacking enough to know how to install CFW.  That doesn't require an emulator either, but it's not easy (I think it's even outright impossible on devices that have the most recent firmware updates).

[mangasdeouf]

1 hour ago, Ertrick36 said:

I think you can also recruitment-swap with save editing - it's a more powerful tool as well, as you can change the units' stats however you wish (so you could theoretically level or delevel them based on growth rates).  The only problem is the possibility of getting shadow-banned, but I don't think you'll get banned so long as you don't tamper with the unit flag settings in the FE:Fates save editor.  It isn't too difficult to accomplish - unlike with normal rom hacking, all you really need is an SD card with the save data on it and a save editor.

Of course, the obvious best bet is using a hacked ROM to swap the rosters around, but that's for those familiar with ROM hacking enough to know how to install CFW.  That doesn't require an emulator either, but it's not easy (I think it's even outright impossible on devices that have the most recent firmware updates).

I don't really understand your technique. The problem with ROM editing is...that to play a ROM (on PC) you need a WORKING 3DS emulator, and Citra never worked for me, seems like there are some settings to modify or whatever, never launched a single game for me (whereas NO$GBA and DESMuMe at least run DS games), Citra is simply not noob-friendly in its settings, running etc. If you have a non-shitty emulator though I'd like to play some Awakening or Fates edits on it (if I manage to download the ROMs and run them, on top of applying the edit...that's why I spend hours per week modding FE8 with FEBuilder, it's so much easier that it can't even compare).