Kal/Angel Report post Posted February 14, 2020 Hi, I have a YouTube video project based on the following challenge : trying to finish Three Houses with Byleth from Smash Bros Ultimate. In other words, I can only use Byleth and he can only use the weapons he uses in Smash. Namely, the Sword of the Creator, Amyr, Areadbhar and Failnaught. It doesn't appear there's a normal way to get those Four Relics at once in any playthrough (the DLC gave me hope since the Three Houseleaders are playable, but it's pre-timeskip, so no luck here), so I'd like to know if it's possible to crack the game or something like that to do it. By the way, I may have found a way to have Three Relics at once. You see, when you fight Edelgard in the late chapters, she possesses another weapon named "Sword of Seiros" (or something around those lines). So if I manage to get her use Amyr 20 times to the point it breaks, maybe I can use the ability "Thief" to steal it, assuming a broken weapon doesn't count as a weapon anymore (since you can only steal non-weapons objects with this ability). I know it doesn't sound likely, but maybe it's possible ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoneStar Report post Posted February 14, 2020 At most you can get Sword of the Creator, Areadbhar and Failnaught by playing Azure Moon. I don't know about the broken weapon thing, but I kind of doubt it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Druplesnubb Report post Posted February 15, 2020 Several special items are literally unstealable eve nthough they're not weapons. Seteth's Ochain Shield and Felix's Aegis Shield are both examples of this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Timlugia Report post Posted February 15, 2020 The only time I know you could have all three is in Smash...🤣 Honestly, I don't understand why you can't get Amyr and Sword of Seiros in Silver Snow/Verdant Wind after killing Edelgard. While one could argue Amyr might be bound to Edelgard, Sword of Seiros isn't, and wouldn't church want to recover it since it's one of their most sacred artifacts? Shouldn't it at least be given back to Rhea after we rescued her? I have seen theory that suggest Sword of Seiros was supposedly Rhea's unique weapon as a playable character in these two routes, but removed when she was removed from roster as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shanty Pete's 1st Mate Report post Posted February 15, 2020 4 hours ago, LoneStar said: At most you can get Sword of the Creator, Areadbhar and Failnaught by playing Azure Moon. I don't know about the broken weapon thing, but I kind of doubt it. You can also get Freikugel (in AM/VW/SS), which Byleth can pretend is Aymr. Notably, having perpetual access to the convoy means that on NG+, Byleth can have the appropriate Crest Stone, no matter which weapon they equip. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eclipse Report post Posted February 15, 2020 Dimitri and Edelgard's relics can't exist in the same file under normal conditions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kal/Angel Report post Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) Thanks to all of you for your answers ! ^^ Edited February 15, 2020 by Kal/Angel Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kal/Angel Report post Posted February 15, 2020 5 hours ago, Shanty Pete's 1st Mate said: You can also get Freikugel (in AM/VW/SS), which Byleth can pretend is Aymr. Notably, having perpetual access to the convoy means that on NG+, Byleth can have the appropriate Crest Stone, no matter which weapon they equip. Does that mean I can have the Crest of Blaidyyd (...yeah, I got lucky for Areadbhar, but this time I definitely not know the spelling ^^") and Riegan on Byleth to use Atrocity and Falling Star ? I don't know what a "Crest Stone" is, so... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shanty Pete's 1st Mate Report post Posted February 15, 2020 5 hours ago, Kal/Angel said: Does that mean I can have the Crest of Blaidyyd (...yeah, I got lucky for Areadbhar, but this time I definitely not know the spelling ^^") and Riegan on Byleth to use Atrocity and Falling Star ? I don't know what a "Crest Stone" is, so... In New Game +, you get access to Crest Stones which, when held in a unit's inventory, grant that unit the effects of the Crest. This includes the ability to use an exclusive combat art with the relevant Hero's Relic. Ex. Felix with the Charon stone, wielding Thunderbrand, can use the Foudroyant Strike combat art. I haven't tested it with Byleth and the Blaiddyd/Riegan crest stones, but I see no reason why they should be exceptions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iavasechui Report post Posted February 15, 2020 On my azure moon new game + I gave my bow wielding Byleth the Riegan crest stone when we got failnaught and she was able to use it full force Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kal/Angel Report post Posted February 22, 2020 On 2/15/2020 at 1:31 AM, Druplesnubb said: Several special items are literally unstealable eve nthough they're not weapons. Seteth's Ochain Shield and Felix's Aegis Shield are both examples of this. I wonder if this is due to them being special or rather because they are equipped to their users. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kal/Angel Report post Posted February 22, 2020 On 2/15/2020 at 4:09 PM, Shanty Pete's 1st Mate said: In New Game +, you get access to Crest Stones which, when held in a unit's inventory, grant that unit the effects of the Crest. This includes the ability to use an exclusive combat art with the relevant Hero's Relic. Ex. Felix with the Charon stone, wielding Thunderbrand, can use the Foudroyant Strike combat art. I haven't tested it with Byleth and the Blaiddyd/Riegan crest stones, but I see no reason why they should be exceptions. This is super good to know ! Although I don't know if using Atrocity and Falling Star is okay since Ruptured Sky is Byleth's Final Smash, making it technically THE legit Combat Art... But even if it's the case, I still wouldn't use the Crest of Blaiddyd, since it has a chance of doubling the durability cost and having to deal with low-durability/hard-to-repair weapons is going to be one of the major difficulties of this challenge. However, the Crest of Riegan would be nice, especially Falling Star that would be a life savior when surrounded by enemies combined with Close Counter since it prevents all incoming moves on the next turn to touch you (if I understood it well). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpiceMan Report post Posted February 23, 2020 11 hours ago, Kal/Angel said: This is super good to know ! Although I don't know if using Atrocity and Falling Star is okay since Ruptured Sky is Byleth's Final Smash, making it technically THE legit Combat Art... I like to think Side B and fully charged Neutral B represent Atrocity and Fallen star in smash, with Down B being Raging storm. They're powerful enough for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkblade2814 Report post Posted February 23, 2020 you can have 3 of them in blue lions, Dimitiri's, Claude's and Yuri's Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kal/Angel Report post Posted February 24, 2020 22 hours ago, darkblade2814 said: you can have 3 of them in blue lions, Dimitiri's, Claude's and Yuri's Yuri…? Like Cindered Shadows' Yuri ? How could it be ?  On 2/23/2020 at 8:15 AM, SpiceMan said: I like to think Side B and fully charged Neutral B represent Atrocity and Fallen star in smash, with Down B being Raging storm. They're powerful enough for it. That's true, I can consider it that way ! Thanks ^^ (nice Kaito pic by the way) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkblade2814 Report post Posted February 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Kal/Angel said: Yuri…? Like Cindered Shadows' Yuri ? How could it be ?  That's true, I can consider it that way ! Thanks ^^ (nice Kaito pic by the way) Yuri is recruitable in the main gamde after you finish the dlc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Druplesnubb Report post Posted February 25, 2020 On 2/22/2020 at 8:21 PM, Kal/Angel said: I wonder if this is due to them being special or rather because they are equipped to their users. Several equipped items, like the shield Nader has to protect him from bows, are perfectly stealable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites