omegaxis1 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 I'm sure most that know me is aware that I'm a major fan of Edelgard. That generally means I would oppose Rhea, whom Edelgard opposes. Now that doesn't mean I hate Rhea, as I genuinely do sympathize with the tragedy she suffered. However, I want to express that despite how I get that she's been through something horrific, I'm not entirely sympathetic with her. Yes, she has suffered incredible pain from being a survivor of a literal genocide, and had to endure her own kin and mother being turned in weapons of war. The last time something like that happened, it was in Yu-Gi-Oh, where it was revealed that the Millennium Items were created by slaughtering an entire village of people. Spoiler Having experienced that, no matter what the reason, even if Nemesis was someone that wanted to just help his people and homeland, what he did is something that cannot ever be forgiven. It is pure evil, and he NEEDED to go down. Nothing would ever justify genocide. And Rhea deserved to seek justice for what happened to her. But that's just it. She deserved justice, but what she sought was revenge. I feel people are TOO easily influenced to mix "justice" and "revenge" and forget that there's a serious difference between the two. Ironically, one of Arthur's room quotes is him actually wanting to lecture Corrin about what the difference is: Quote “This was great, but next time let's discuss the subtle yet distinct difference between justice and vengeance.” Yes, there IS a difference. But people are so much into the belief that those that made someone else suffer should ALSO suffer the same or worse treatment, or would seek to kill them regardless of how it affects others. And the biggest difference is what happens when one attains justice and how one is when one attains revenge. To better help convey my point, I bring about Lyn and Wallace's B support from FE7: Quote Lyn: I...must become stronger. And not just for this battle... There is something else I must do. Wallace: Perhaps, Lady Lyndis... you speak of the bandits that took your parents’ lives? Lyn: My mother, my father... and the people of Lorca who died... With this sword, I’ll avenge them all one day, I swear it. Wallace: How saddened the marquess would be if he heard, that a lady of Caelin was plotting revenge... Lyn: You would have me forget!? Can I forget the blood that was spilled? Can I forget my father!? Never! I cannot! Wallace: Lady Lyndis... Lyn: I am sorry, Sir Wallace. But this is something that I cannot forget. Wallace: Lady Lyndis... Do you hate them—the ones who did this to you? Lyn: Yes, I hate them. Very much. They took my father and mother from me... I shall never forgive them. As long as they live, I can never move on! Wallace: ... ... Notice that at the end, Lyn says that so long as the bandits are alive, she can never move on. So take this with Rhea, who spent decades plotting and preparing to wage war against Nemesis and the Elites, planning on killing them all. Rhea must have felt that she could never move on unless her family's murderer paid the price, right? However, it's at Lyn's A support with Wallace that perfectly demonstrates how distinct this difference between justice and revenge. Quote Wallace: Lady Lyndis. Lyn: General Wallace...? Wallace: I had not thought to ever tell this to anyone... But I shall tell you, and only you. Lyn: What is it? Wallace: I haven’t told you how I came to Bern... Lyn: You mean you didn’t wander here by chance? Wallace: No, not by chance. I came to Bern for a reason. I had a purpose... Lyn: A purpose? Wallace: The bandits that used to live in the Taliver Mountains... They are no more. I destroyed the bandits of Taliver. Lyn: ...Why!? Why did you do such a thing!? The bandits of Taliver were my enemies! They were mine to... Wallace: ...Lady Lyndis. I killed them—but not for revenge. I want you to be happy... I wanted the single daughter of Lord Hassar and Lady Madelyn... ...to be happy. Lyn: ... ... Wallace: Lady Lyndis. If you truly wished revenge upon them, you should be happy. Hatred can be strength. On the plains, you needed that strength to survive. But left too long, hatred can twist and consume you. Lyn: ... ... Wallace: The blood of your parents flows in your veins. That you live must bring them no end of joy. But for you to be filled with such hate... Is this what your parents would have wished for? Lyn: But...But I... ... ... Wallace: My words now might not reach you, I know that. Still, Lady Lyndis, listen: I pray that your heart will not be clouded. For you have the clear eyes of your mother, and in clarity lies beauty. This is genuinely important. Lyn here is outraged angered that Wallace destroyed the bandits that she wanted revenge on. She's upset that she couldn't do it. But she's not even happy and hasn't actually moved on yet. She's not even showing signs that she has moved on after learning this. Wallace also mentioned that hatred can be useful as a strength cause it allows you to cling to her will to survive. But clinging to that hatred for too long can consume you. And that's exactly what happens to Rhea. She was consumed by hatred, consumed by her lust for vengeance. And when she finally killed Nemesis and then hunted down the remaining Elites, killing them one by one, what happened? Did Rhea move on? Keep in mind that Rhea had CENTURIES worth of peace after the War of Heroes. She had something that many humans don't have: time. Nemesis was killed in the Imperial Year 91, with the war ending in the Year 98, and the game starts off at the Year 1179. That means Rhea has had over a millennium to try and move on. Rhea had so much time to push past her sorrows and grief, and to let go of that hatred. To let go of her suffering and try to find happiness in her life towards the future. But... she didn't. Rhea never moved on. She clung to her sorrow, her grief, and used that as her reason for her actions toward everything. You know how people go on and on about how Edelgard could have just "talked" to people or tried to change things peacefully? How about using that on Rhea? Rhea had over an entire millennium to just fix things. She was the archbishop of the Church. She had the power, resources, and most of all, time to address the issues of Fodlan. Why couldn't she spend a few decades preaching to the people and telling them that they should not worship Crests to the point of obsession or judge people's worth based on Crests. Sure, maybe people wouldn't listen immediately, but that's the beauty of her longevity. She doesn't NEED to be quick. She can keep pushing and attempting to guide humanity for years and years, and slowly, people WOULD begin to listen and try to put into practice the belief that Crests aren't necessary. And then little by little, the rest of the people would start to follow suit. It's a matter of taking it slow and steady. The possibility exists. But when DID she actually start to move on? When she got captured by Edelgard and imprisoned for five whole years after Edelgard declared war on the Church of Seiros. Five years of being removed from power, lamenting over her failures, did Rhea finally realize how she messed up. - In the end, yeah, Rhea's a tragic character, and I sympathize with her, but only to an extent. She should have moved on past her grief throughout the years. But she didn't. She clung to them and that worsened things for her and everyone else around her. Her having a redemption only after being imprisoned for five years during a war is too little, too late. This is why I can't ever support Rhea. Feel free to disagree with me, but the point of this thread is just my stance on why I can't support her or side with her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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