Anomalocaris Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 8 hours ago, GrandeRampel said: Nice list @Anomalocaris Some very intersting choices that I like there, like Jake, Acheron (lol), Kellam, Gareth, My Girls Mozu and Dorothy and TMS Medeus. And Brave Reinhard! How could you say something so controversial yet so brave? And wow, I can't believe I forgot about Warriors Anna. I have to edit the OP because what I said there is factually incorrect. Somebody had to vouch for Acheron's splendor. He is the true hero of Three Houses after all. Brave Reinhardt is necessary because we only have red, blue, and green Reinhardt right now. We're missing colorless Reinhardt to complete the set. I wasn't sure if Warriors Anna was allowed because of your rules, but I needed 7 Warriors characters so I could have one full banner plus Fallen Darios on the later banner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humanoid Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Realistically for someone genuinely in that position it'd be pretty dispiriting to know that your work is about to be thrown out, in the worst case two weeks after doing it (for the last banner ever in the game). In fact, they might be so dispirited that they might resort to using a random number generator. So, I decided to generate a bunch of random numbers, indexing off the CYL results, and used them sequentially to generate a year's worth of additions to the game. Rules: 1) If a New Hero ends up being someone with two "regular" copies already in the game (I allow for one normal alt as per precedent), I will re-roll that number individually until a valid hero is found. 2) If a Special Hero ends up being someone who already has a Special Hero with the same theme, see (1). 3) The fourth hero in each sequence is the 4* demote. 4) I begin with the May 2020 Bridal banner and the pattern continues to mirror the New Heroes/Seasonal pattern from the year prior. So without further ado: ________ Bridal Banner Beowolf Itsuki & Chrom Thrasir Lugh (replacing Sigrun disqualified) Maribelle (TT) May Mythic Mitama New Heroes Halcyon Boah Lambert Chad (alt) Selphina (GHB) Summer Brady Caellach Hilda Fiona Laslow (TT) June Legendary Tormod Summer Two Asaello Selkie Setsuna Hel Serra (TT) New Heroes Creidne Marisha Halcyon (haha an alt already) Dwyer Lewyn (GHB, alt) July Mythic Charlot New Heroes Linoan Gerome (alt) Lex Lot Muirne (GHB) CYL (only the TT is random) Edelgard Dimitri Claude Lysithea Flora (TT, alt, replacement for Reinhardt DQ) August Legendary Calill Dancer Marianne Geitz Solon Lang Fjorm (TT) New Heroes Nealuchi Severa (alt) Caesar (replacing Nino DQ) Claude Raphael (GHB) September Mythic Larum Halloween Brady Wolt Barst Galle Gray (TT) New Heroes Karel (alt) Kamui Lene (alt) Surtr (alt) Anankos (GHB) October Legendary Sain New Heroes Tauroneo Castor Lara Panne (alt) Giffca (GHB) New Heroes Wendell Conomor Kellam Marty Ena (TT, because it's the second New Heroes banner of November) Mythic Cervantes New Heroes Velouria (alt) Luthier Bastian Lorenz (Three Houses) Aversa (alt, GHB) Christmas Bors Sheena Dimitri Lonato Yuliya (TT) December Legendary Creidne New Year's Nergal Tauroneo Judith Layla Lukas (TT) New Heroes Kostas Ymir Ashe Azama Lex (GHB, alt) New Heroes Selena (Sacred Stones) Reptor Renning Palla (alt) Stefan (TT, mirroring TMS banner) January Mythic Titania Valentine's Hawkeye Leanne Lewyn Franz Midori (TT) New Heroes Jorge Nils (Chrom disqualified) Iuchar Malice Perceval (alt, GHB) February Legendary Sonya New Heroes Elena Wolt Ayaha & Aversa Wolt (alt, yes he has an alt on his debut banner, crazy RNG) Kent (GHB) Easter Lord Arundel Creidne Riku & Abel Nasir Ewan (TT) March Mythic Irma New Heroes Eda Randolph (replacing Olivia disqualified) Gilliam Erk Naga (GHB) Kids (or Picnic or whatever random theme of 2021) Caellach Andrey Elena Troude Muarim (TT) Legendary Deen Evil Xavier Dayan Stahl Metodey Travant (GHB) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandeRampel Posted May 16, 2020 Author Share Posted May 16, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Yexin said: it took longer than i expected here's my list: 1) Shadow Dragon: Hardin (Lance Cavalry), Lena (Staff Infantry, Demote), Julian (Green Dagger Infantry), Wolf (Red Bow Cavalry, Banner Star), Gazzak (Axe Infantry, GHB (very first FE boss, he deserves it)), Nyna (Blue Tome Infantry, TT) 3) New Mystery of the Emblem: Etzel (Green Tome Infantry), Horace (Lance Armor, Demote), Ymir (Axe Infantry), Malice (Sword Infantry, Banner Star), Eremiya (Red Tome Infantry, GHB), Frey (Sword Cavalry) 5) Thracia 776: Fergus (Sword Infantry), Ronan (Blue Bow Infantry, Demote), Linoan (Green Tome Infantry), Sara (Staff Infantry, Banner Star), Veld (Colorless Tome Infantry, GHB), Galzus (Sword Infantry, TT) 15) Thracia 776 2nd banner: Homer (Bluer Tome Infantry), Selfina (Colorless Bow Cavalry), Dagdar (Axe Infantry, Demote), Fergus (Sword Infantry, Banner Star), Raydrick (Sword Armor, GHB), Eda (Lance Flier, TT) 21) Archanea mixed banner: Hardin (Cavalry Lance), Jubelo (Infantry Red Tome), Yuliya (Infantry Staff), Malice (Infantry Axe), TT+ Gotoh (Armor Green Tome. Screw canon, we need more armor tomes) GHB Wolf (Cavalry Red Bow) You accidently used Hardin, Wolf, Malice and Fergus twice. But other than that, pretty good list. I like how you used Duo Heroes. Not too much and mostly for couples that make a lot of sense (I really want Duo Elena+Greil in this game). Also I like you Gazzak idea. 6 hours ago, XRay said: I personally do not really care who gets in besides the Dancers/Singers, so I will just list the missing Dancers/Singers: Shadows of Valentia Faye (this would be an alt who can Dance) Ribald Tales of the Faith War Laylea Thracia 776 Lara The Binding Blade Elffin Path of Radiance Lilia Radiant Dawn Rafiel Lehran Lorazieh If getting all possible refreshers is the goal I would also pick Arete (Azura's mom) who would probably be a singer. Also that one singer NPC from Fates you can vote in CYL, Layla. 6 hours ago, Sayyyaka said: 1.) Shadow Dragon Etzel - Red Tome InfantryMidia - Lance CavalryHorace - Axe ArmourYmir - Axe Infantry (4* Focus)TT+: Frey - Lance CavalryGHB: Lorenz - Bow Armour Horace doesn't actually use an axe in his base class, but it's in his art and I didn't want to have 3 lances. I guess I could've made him a bow, but I wanted Lorenz to have something unique to him among his Archanean peers. Lorenz is also a lance user, but in SD armours could use bows so why not show that here? I also just wanted to add in all the gaiden characters here, plus Midia for Astram's sake. 5.) Thracia 776Diarmuid - Sword CavalryDean - Lance FlierDagdar - Axe Infantry (4* Focus)Linoan - Staff InfantryGHB: Raydrick - Sword ArmourTT+: Marty - Axe Infantry Diarmuid is cheating a bit, but still counts.9.) Path of RadianceGHB: Petrine - Lance Flier3.) Legendary L'Arachel - Staff Cavalry with Latona4.) Legendary Joshua - Green Tome Infantry with his own version of Excalibur Both of these may seem like odd choices but if you stretch the definition of a legendary hero enough I think the rulers of Rausten and Jehanna who helped slay Fomortiis fits the bill. Overall this was a pretty fun exercise and actually made me appreciate Heroes more. The reason being that if this carefully selected group of 24 focuses and 12 legendary/mythics still leaves me wanting more, then it's a good thing Heroes is still alive. I don't really want to stop seeing new heroes added. Lorenz deserves to be in the game, but the slots are so limited T.T If Diarmuid in a Thracia banner is cheating, then call me a cheater too. Think you meant Lance Cavalry with that Petrine there. Nice way to get the last Sacred Twins in the game with the Legendary Banner. And I agree 100% with you sentiment about New Heroes banners. May this game last 5 more years. 5 hours ago, Fire Emblem Fan said: That's quite a few rules, but I think I got it all. I think. 7) Blazing Blade: Pent (red tome infantry), Farina (lance flier), Erk (green tome infantry), Louise (colorless bow infantry), Nergal (red tome infantry, GHB), Renault (staff infantry, TT+) 10) Radiant Dawn: Tormod (red tome infantry), Rafiel (blue beast infantry), Muarim (green beast infantry), Skrimir (colorless beast armor), Nasir (blue beast/dragon infantry, GHB), Pelleas (red tome infantry, TT+) 19) Shadow Dragon/New Mystery of the Emblem: Roshea (sword cavalry), Matthis (lance cavalry), Julian (green dagger infantry), Lena (staff infantry), Castor (colorless bow cavalry, GHB), Aran (lance cavalry, TT+) 24) Adrift substitute (alt banner): Lyn with Mani Katti (sword infantry), Caeda with Wing Spear (lance flier), Hector with Wolf Beil (axe armor), Solo Ephraim with Reginleif (lance infantry), Ike with Ettard (sword infantry, GHB), Mist with Florete (sword cavalry, TT+) 11) Mythic Elimine: Staff infantry 7) Nice pick with Renault. He is really cool, but being a bad unit+obscure unit+old man doesn't really do him any favors in Heroes. 10) I see a lack of women here. You are in violation of rule 5. DIE, INFIDEL! STRIKES YOU WITH ASHERA'S JUDGEMENT TOME Ahaha, nah it's cool, man. I will spare you this time. Let's just say that banner 10 is actually a 7 person banner and put Vika on it. 19) Something tells me you are a fan of the Wolfguard. 24) A starting weapons banner? Not a bad idea for a theme. There would be complaining because of "another alt for Lyn/Hector/Ephraim/Ike" but the game is ending, so who cares? And nice to see another Elimine supporter. 5 hours ago, NSSKG151 said: Fates 2 Orochi (Infantry Red Tome) Hayato (Infantry Green Tome) Kiragi (Infantry Colorless Bow) Caeldori (Flying Lance) TT Mozu (Infantry Lance) GHB Fuga (Infantry Axe) Blazing Sword 2 Lowen (Cavalry Sword) Marcus (Cavalry Axe) Isadora (Cavalry Lance) Harken (Infantry Axe) TT Dart (Infantry Axe) GHB Nergal (Infantry Red Tome) Legendaries Heroes Anna (Infantry Axe) You are the first to request Caeldori. Good for you. Still no Asugi anywhere tho, RIP. Also Marcus really also needs to be in the game. So many characters, so few slots. Legendary Anna would be dope. 2 hours ago, MagicCanonBalls said: 10 Radiant Dawn. Kyza (Blue Tiger Laguz), Volug (Colorless Wolf Laguz), Bastian (Green Tome Infantry), Heather (Red Dagger Infantry). Nolan (TT Green Axe Infantry), Fiona (GHB Lance Cavalry). Mayne Fiona can finally be good. 12. Fates. Shura (Colorless bow cavalry), Reina (Red bow flier), Mozu (Lance infantry), Scarlet (Axe flier). Caeldori (TT lance flier), Asugi (Ghb OP Red Dagger infantry). Mostly just filling in the rest of fates. Asugi is another one of my fav FE character so he gets to be OP as well) 14. Three Houses 2. Marianne (Staff cavalry), Dedue (Axe Armored), Bernadetta (Red Bow infantry), Constance (Lance Infantry). Jeralt (TT Lance Cavalry), Judith (Green Bow Infantry). One student from each house. Judith should have been playable in 3H post timeskip. 17. Crossover. Cain mirage owner. Warriors oc: guy (infantry sword), girl (infantry lance), whatever for TT reward. Darios (ghb Infantry axe). 18. CYL4. Brave Bruno as GHB, Blue bow griffon flier (my ultimate fantasy unit in FEH). TT reward would be Awakening Anna as Colorless dagger infantry. The 4 winners can be whatever, i like them all anyway. 19. CYB1. Awakening Spotpass banner. Priam (Sword infantry), Emmeryn (Cavalry Green Tome), Gangrel ( Flier colorless Levin dagger), Yen'Fay (Flier Sword). TT reward would be Lance Flier Phila. Ghb would be Mustafa as Axe armor. 20. 3H's weapon of Zoltan (OZ) banner. Felix (Sword OZ infantry), Caspar (Axe OZ flier), Leonie (Lance OZ cavalry), Cyril (Colorless dagger OZ dancer). Flayn (staff OZ flier). Ashe ( GHB Bow OZ Cavalry) I really like the Zoltan weapons in 3H so this entire banner is dedicated to them. Dagger and staff are hypothetical as they don't exist in game. Dorothea actually get praise for her sword skill from Felix after sparring (she learnt from her time in opera) so her wielding dagger isn't too out of place. As for Ashe in ghb I don't want to spoil for those still playing so I will just leave it at that. 21. Mysterious Kris banner. Ok this is an idea I had for a long time, pretty sure it breaks no alt rule, so feel free to ignore this if it pains you physically just from reading the following description There are questions at start of game to determine Kris stats and growth by asking "past, present and future" so I would make 6 unique combination of those answers ( for 3 Male 3 Female), and different looks as well since you can customize their appearance in game. So all 6 Kris would all have sort of different personality, distinguish appearance, weapon and movement type. He can be ghb because of how disliked he is in fandom, and every hater get the chance the beat him. 10) Oooh, Kyza is a rarepick if I've ever seen one. Cool choice. I also really want Fiona to be good at least in this game. If KARLA can be good in Heroes, why not her? 12) Aaaand I spoke too soon about Asugi. 14) Bernadetta is already in the game. 17) A mixed Warriors/TMS banner? Uhm, I'll allow it because it sound cool. 18) I don't know why, but I'm starting to think you may like Griffon Riders xD 19) You. You my friend are cool and valid, for remembering Phile and Mustafa. 20) I think you accidently wrote Cyril instead of Dorothea as the dagger user. 21) ......uh. Well I guess this can count as your Adrift like banner, a banner with alts based around a theme. But what a weird theme indeed. It's unique if nothing else. 1 hour ago, Anomalocaris said: Somebody had to vouch for Acheron's splendor. He is the true hero of Three Houses after all. Brave Reinhardt is necessary because we only have red, blue, and green Reinhardt right now. We're missing colorless Reinhardt to complete the set. I wasn't sure if Warriors Anna was allowed because of your rules, but I needed 7 Warriors characters so I could have one full banner plus Fallen Darios on the later banner. You are right, Reinhart emblem is a necessity. Also, a few people were confused like you, so let me say this again. Heroes who lose their memory/get possessed and as a result create a completely different identity like Zeke, Eyvel, Hardin and so on count as different units and not alts. Heck, heroes who willingly fabricate a fake identity don't count as alts, IMHO. Which means Black Knight, Flame Emperor, Death Knight, Sirius, Odin, Selena and Laslow. And obviously Annas from other worlds don't count as alts of Heroes Anna. 46 minutes ago, Humanoid said: Realistically for someone genuinely in that position it'd be pretty dispiriting to know that your work is about to be thrown out, in the worst case two weeks after doing it (for the last banner ever in the game). In fact, they might be so dispirited that they might resort to using a random number generator. So, I decided to generate a bunch of random numbers, indexing off the CYL results, and used them sequentially to generate a year's worth of additions to the game. Rules: 1) If a New Hero ends up being someone with two "regular" copies already in the game (I allow for one normal alt as per precedent), I will re-roll that number individually until a valid hero is found. 2) If a Special Hero ends up being someone who already has a Special Hero with the same theme, see (1). 3) The fourth hero in each sequence is the 4* demote. 4) I begin with the May 2020 Bridal banner and the pattern continues to mirror the New Heroes/Seasonal pattern from the year prior. This is all fine and dandy, and it's a unique idea, but I feel like it's a bit off topic. The point of all of this was to showcase which decisions we would make in this situation. By using the RNG you are essentialy deciding to not decide, and I don't know if that's in the spirit of this topic. I decided to let other people come up with their own rules and limitations if they want, but even then what you did is a bit of an extreme borderline case. I know it must have taken some work to run all the numbers, and I don't want to discredit it. But I still feel like it could be its own topic more than anything. "Let's make future banners by using CYL result and a number generator" or something like that for the title. I don't think you idea doesn't have its merits, but it's different enough that it should be its own thing IMO. Edited May 16, 2020 by GrandeRampel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yexin Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 (edited) Just now, GrandeRampel said: You accidently used Hardin, Wolf, Malice and Fergus twice. yeah i noticed, i'm gonna fix that later anyway thanks, glad you liked my list Edited May 16, 2020 by Yexin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicCanonBalls Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, GrandeRampel said: 11 hours ago, Yexin said: 8 hours ago, XRay said: 8 hours ago, Sayyyaka said: 7 hours ago, Fire Emblem Fan said: 7 hours ago, NSSKG151 said: 3 hours ago, MagicCanonBalls said: 10) Oooh, Kyza is a rarepick if I've ever seen one. Cool choice. I also really want Fiona to be good at least in this game. If KARLA can be good in Heroes, why not her? 12) Aaaand I spoke too soon about Asugi. 14) Bernadetta is already in the game. 17) A mixed Warriors/TMS banner? Uhm, I'll allow it because it sound cool. 18) I don't know why, but I'm starting to think you may like Griffon Riders xD 19) You. You my friend are cool and valid, for remembering Phile and Mustafa. 20) I think you accidently wrote Cyril instead of Dorothea as the dagger user. 21) ......uh. Well I guess this can count as your Adrift like banner, a banner with alts based around a theme. But what a weird theme indeed. It's unique if nothing else. Wasn't aware Bernie is already in the game. Haven't played FEH since Feb. I changed it to Linhardt instead since only him and Caspar left. As for mixing warrior and TMS it's simply because I haven't got the chance to play it yet so I just based it on Let's Play videos I watched. I thought Mustafa and Phila were recruitable based on their dialogue and situation. So this is the chance fo IS to make it right. (And Phila is potential waifu so realistically speaking she still has chance to appear in a random Awakening banner.) Edited May 16, 2020 by MagicCanonBalls I am on phone so I accidentaally quoted way too much and cant find the delete quotation box button. Sorry for everyone else if you get notified for ntg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRay Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 1 hour ago, GrandeRampel said: If getting all possible refreshers is the goal I would also pick Arete (Azura's mom) who would probably be a singer. Also that one singer NPC from Fates you can vote in CYL, Layla. Not sure if they would make Arete a Singer since she already has strategist class in Fates, but it would be nice if she would be a cavalry Singer. Layla would probably be a Singer hopefully. Since everyone in TMS is an idol, I guess I can have the rest all be implemented as Dancers/Singers too, and give all the current TMS characters Dance/Sing. I was disappointed when I found out that none of the current TMS Heroes are Dancers/Singers. Mamori being an armored Dancer/Singer would be super nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandeRampel Posted May 16, 2020 Author Share Posted May 16, 2020 1 hour ago, XRay said: Since everyone in TMS is an idol, I guess I can have the rest all be implemented as Dancers/Singers too, and give all the current TMS characters Dance/Sing. I was disappointed when I found out that none of the current TMS Heroes are Dancers/Singers. Mamori being an armored Dancer/Singer would be super nice. IMO Idol Tiki, Barry and Maiko have an higher chance of being refreshers since they already were support characters in TMS. Or at least I hope. Idol Tiki would be a great boost for Tiki Emblem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Emblem Fan Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 3 hours ago, GrandeRampel said: 7) Nice pick with Renault. He is really cool, but being a bad unit+obscure unit+old man doesn't really do him any favors in Heroes. 10) I see a lack of women here. You are in violation of rule 5. DIE, INFIDEL! STRIKES YOU WITH ASHERA'S JUDGEMENT TOME Ahaha, nah it's cool, man. I will spare you this time. Let's just say that banner 10 is actually a 7 person banner and put Vika on it. 19) Something tells me you are a fan of the Wolfguard. 7) Yeah, I know the likelihood of Renault is low, but I was trying to keep some sort of "theme" for that one. Pent and Louise are obvious, Farina is a stand-in for Fiora (since Pent hired a pegasus sister), Erk is Pent's student, Nergal is the "rival" of Pent's teacher, and Renault is very connected to Nergal. 10) Ah, dang, somehow I didn't notice. Eh, just swap Pelleas with Ena from my other Tellius banner. Boom, problem solved. 19) More a fan of Roshea, honestly. I really like what they did with him in Mystery/New Mystery; it gives him some actual development as a character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSSKG151 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 10 hours ago, GrandeRampel said: You are the first to request Caeldori. Good for you. Still no Asugi anywhere tho, RIP. Also Marcus really also needs to be in the game. So many characters, so few slots. Legendary Anna would be dope. I figured Caeldori is more likely since she can easily ride off of Cordelia's popularity as another 'alt' since the rest of the missing Birthright kids are not really that well liked from my understanding. Yeah, Marcus would be nice since the guy was around to help both Eliwood and Roy on their adventures. Personally, I think all three members of the Askr Trio should get Legendary alts but due to the rules I limited it to one so I picked Anna because well...I'm biased towards her plus she needs the boost the most with a new variation of Noatun plus a personal skill for her (Sharena still needs a prf skill too since Alfonse has Open the Future). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 6 hours ago, GrandeRampel said: IMO Idol Tiki, Barry and Maiko have an higher chance of being refreshers since they already were support characters in TMS. Or at least I hope. Idol Tiki would be a great boost for Tiki Emblem. If any of them go the dancing route, I'm betting it's Maiko. Though Barry in a dog suit would be pretty amusing. 😛 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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