Serenes Forest's Teehee Thread

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[Venger_06]

33 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

Considering how all the endings went, I think I won't disagree with that. Although...

What's one more? But yeah, Merkabah is the coolest guy

Spoiler

I like that all 4 Samurai die at the end of it. Feels pretty conclusive.

 

35 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

I've agreed with you, now go play Devil Survivor, or Devil Survivor 2. I don't care which.

The DS or 3DS versions?

[BrightBow]

Huh, there is a mod that adds screams to the cars in City Escape.

Perfection.

 

[Saint Rubenio]

There we go, boss 1 of Rogue Legacy 2 down. For this regular run without NG+ levels, I intend to beat all the bosses without taking damage.

First boss has already been more difficult than he should. I left him so low, the entire health bar was black. He just had one tiny sliver of health... But I realized too late, lost focus and took a hit. That was... that felt great, lemme tell you that much.

Enough platforming for now. First a snack, then some Exit Fate.

1 hour ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

Sorta yes, sorta not really. Much of the non-main story Blade character artwork was outsourced to freelancers. Which is like the norm in true gatcha games, see FEH. A game with a lite gatcha element copying the approach is understandable. -Although I don't exactly love it b/c sometimes with FEH, there is too much of a visual disparity, not enough "glue" making everyone seem like they belong to a whole. I think you need some form of "gloss" thrown over everything to create a sense of cohesiveness.

Ah. Guess we can blame Risa, then.

52 minutes ago, Dayni said:

In terms of the main thing they'd be doing I'd prefer him.

Who cares? It's just another really strong unit in the game where everyone is really strong and enemies are weak as shit. Might as well go with whoever you like best, because nothing else matters in this game.

17 minutes ago, Dayni said:

Oh my God that's priceless. Luigi really did just race backwards so he could stare right into Shadow's soul before he literally murdered him.

17 minutes ago, Dayni said:

All hail Luigi

Yes.

[Lightcosmo]

1 hour ago, Shrimpolaris said:

Tinny is for example well written as Gen2 becomes her personal revenge stroy due to how those who treated her and her mother badly are antagonists, and goes through an arc

This was what i meant, just poorly explained cause I was tired, haha.

[BrightBow]

57 minutes ago, Dayni said:

 

Reminds me of Buck Up And Drive.

 

Edited April 29, 2022 by BrightBow

[Interdimensional Observer]

44 minutes ago, Newtype06 said:

What's one more? But yeah, Merkabah is the coolest guy

Honestly I love Merkabah's design. Some people whined about the Archangels getting redrawn for the first time since 1992, but, without offense to the traditional designs, I liked the new ones.

44 minutes ago, Newtype06 said:

The DS or 3DS versions?

You didn't have to take that seriously. At all.

Anyhow, the 3DS versions are the definite editions. Higher graphical resolution, a few more demons available to fuse and skills to use, English voice acting. The enhanced ports also have new bonus stories with gameplay (three 8th Days in DS Overclocked, the Triangulum scenario in Record Breaker), might not be the best they could've done IMO, but more is more, you still get to see the old endings and credits before you can begin them, so they don't directly detract from the original content.

DS1 and DS2 are not related to each other plotwise, but DS2 makes a few minor gameplay improvements that mean, if you're going to play both, it's best to begin with DS1. Character, plot, and atmosphere, opinions are divided on which is better. DS1 has more of a typical SMT vibe, though a bit more anime mainstream. DS2 isn't Factually Persona-lite, it's missing the 'sonas and the psychobabble and moves faster than plate tectonics, but oh, you can feel a difference between it and DS1.

There is also a DS2 anime, not necessarily the absolute worst one out there I'm told (I never watched it), but... it's not the best representation of the story by a longshot, nor a good anime even setting the game aside.

 

39 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said:

Oh my God that's priceless. Luigi really did just race backwards so he could stare right into Shadow's soul before he literally murdered him.

As one who played Shadow the Hedgehog as a kid, Shadow kinda deserves it. SA2and Sonic Heroes him were bearable I guess, though Maria! was always a little cringe. But then we got this.:

I feel guilt for ever having enjoyed this, this is a rare case where childhood innocence is not a valid excuse.

I will break Luigi out of jail for what he has done if it comes to it.

[Acacia Sgt]

I, for one, am ready to see him and his ow-the-edgehog glory in Sonic 3...

[BrightBow]

Sonic 3 has big shoes to fill.

 

[Lightcosmo]

Can I just say I 100% completed Shadow the Hedgehog?

[BrightBow]

No one 100% completed Shadow the Hedgehog.

Next you will tell me there is someone that cleared the Big stages in SA1.

[Acacia Sgt]

[Interdimensional Observer]

1 minute ago, lightcosmo said:

Can I just say I 100% completed Shadow the Hedgehog?

As in, you played through the stages in every possible order? Unholy Chaos! That would be way too long with the game.

I'm not going to call all aspects of the game irredeemable, the stage flowchart and alternative objectives were a cool idea. And at the time I didn't realize how guns... didn't really contribute much, though the infamous control issues 3D Sonic continually struggles with I did feel. But, once I got through the true ending once, don't think I ever finished a full run of the game ever again (but as I remember using the Shadow Rifle, so I know I kept playing it for a time).

[Saint Rubenio]

Well, that was convenient. When I read the necromancer's necromancing book and it featured a list of six ingredients required for necromancy in the form of riddles, I thought "great, a massive fetch quest that isn't even clear about what I'm fetching, I'm never going to get this guy unless I look up a guide."

Turns out, however, that I had accidentally come upon all of the ingredients already, save for, ironically enough, the easiest to find. I bought one of those in the nearest store, on the off chance that it'd be one of the required things. I mean, makes sense that the item that cures amnesia would be the thing that brings back the dead's forgotten memories, right?

So now I've necromanced for the incompetent necromancer, and that means he joins me. Man is still a completely useless idiot, but I love him, so I'm glad I got to help him out. Maybe I'll kick out the wizard and make him my new mage. He looks like a surprisingly solid spellcaster, in spite of failing so hard at his chosen specialty.

...That, and...

@Shaky Jones Look, it's you in the videogame! I didn't know your name is Derek.

 

...AHAHAHAH Derek hates Myst the necromancer. I was wondering when I'd run into one of those wonderful F supports. I guess I gotta use them now.

43 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

 

 

Ah yes, the game where they gave the cartoon hedgehog a gun.

[Acacia Sgt]

I prefer the potoroo with a tommy gun.

[GuardianSing]

10 hours ago, Jotari said:

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Pyra and Mythra look that way because Klaus is a horny bastard.

Everyone here is talking more about this topic than the dedicated thread I made for it T.T 

All I can say is that I tried.

9 hours ago, Dayni said:

 

Okay, I am highly curious about what you're going on about for how characters would be written as nonchalantly sexy.

Are we talking like we get environments where women are wearing no tops as a normal thing? Are we talking about actually just not really acknowledging the skintight spandex on everyone in a show where the cast are expected to wear it for.... reasons? Or am I just thinking too simply here?

All of them at once I suppose.

What I mean I guess is to have characters who are sexy but the story never dwelling on it. Never having super imposed close up shots of their body or character interactions talking about how "hot" they are, no just treated as the norm to the point where you'd almost forget that the outfit being worn is conventionally skimpy.

An example I can think of is Olivia from Awakening where her outfit is never brought up once, making you forget that "Oh yeah, this girl is basically wearing a bikini with some ribbons during a fucking war" 

And I like that. There's a sense of empowerment in a character letting their body breath without being overtop about it, it stops being a sexy thing and just becomes normal, and that's something I feel helps real people feel better about their own bodies.

7 hours ago, lightcosmo said:

Is this inheretly a bad thing? I mean, the writer should have the freedom to write their story the way they want, not be forced otherwise cause someone doesn't like it, that's how writing goes, not everyone will like their work.

Yes but art is subjective, and while it is the right of the writer to write whatever they please (And I encourage them to do so) It is also the right of the reader to critique it based on their own views and preferences.

I don't think it's a bad but I do think it's a tiring thing. But again I wont complain too much, after all making Zelda a damsel in distress doesn't break the good stories of Zelda, it's just that a playable Zelda would be a nice change of pace.

6 hours ago, Armagon said:

I really do not like this line, i know you've made other points but i extremely disagree with this. A real character can be made by anyone, no matter what they look like.

I will use Dahlia as an example

Now i actually really hate this design just in general but this character design was actually come up with by a woman. A woman drew this. And despite the uh, bad design, the character itself is actually pretty sweet.

I'm using this as an example because female sexualized characters can be created by women (you'd be surprised at how many tbh) and can still be proper characters in their own right.

Hey I agree, I hate that line as well because it was a terrible way of making my point.

What I meant to say is that a male writer will be more inclined to write male characters since they may relate to them more, but when they write a female character they may unconsciously write her a generically feminine character without much to her. This is where you get your classic damsels in distress and empty love interests.

It's obviously not impossible for a male to write a good female character, but it's still something that does happen.

6 hours ago, Armagon said:

On the subject because it's linked, the whole "they were a porn artist lol" argument that a lot of people like to use as a "gotcha" (not saying you say this fyi) does not really work. As if porn somehow makes you a lesser artist. Name a popular Japanese artist, they probably drew porn at some point. Hell, Gustave Courbet drew Origin of the World (i am not responsible if you look this up) and he's regarded as one of the best French painters in history and was one of the founders of the Realism movement (if i remember this bit correctly). 

Aye, this is something that isn't talked about as much but most professional artists drew risque art, and that's totally okay. It's a requirement in most art schools to draw naked figures, it's how we learn about anatomy.

Look at Leonardo Da Vinci! He help paved the way for medical science by having many sketches of the nude human body which helped doctors in their studies.

6 hours ago, Armagon said:

How many times has Zelda actually gotten kidnapped?

• She got kidnapped in Zelda 1 cause of course
• She gets kidnapped in a Link to the Past
• She gets kidnapped towards the end of Ocarina of Time
• I think the same goes for Wind Waker
• She gets kidnapped in A Link Between Worlds
• I think Skyward Sword

Yeah she doesn't always get kidnapped but it is always the goal to save her.

For most of Skyward Sword she's just off doing her own thing while your goal is to get close to her so you can protect her.

In breath of the wild, she's not really been kidnapped, she's just been using her magic to stop the spread of Calamity Ganon for the past 100 years...somehow, and it's your job to save her from that.

The only games where you don't save her from something or other are the game were she doesn't appear.

Here's something I laughed at when I first saw. A passage in the Hyrule Historia talks about the evolution of the three main Zelda characters and has this to say on each 

"In the beginning, Link was just a bunch of pixelated dots, now he's a hero who appears fearless. Ganon has turned into a powerful archvillain, and Zelda, an incredibly beautiful woman"

...Not the reincarnation of the goddess, not a very capable magic user a can destroy a field of guardians in one fell swoop, just an incredibly beautiful woman.

And I feel that's pretty telling of how some members of the Zelda team see her.

 

[Eltosian Kadath]

1 hour ago, Shrimpolaris said:

I never said that. As Armagon said, i am pro "everyone should wear whatever they want".

I was pointing out the hypocrisy of your statement, because you kinda did say that. If you look back at what I quoted; at what you said

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The whole "Character has to wear x" doesn't sound far of the religious dogma of people having to wear y. Like people always wanted to wear whatever they wanted, and now we are forcing them again because "sexualization"?

You make it clear that "Character has to wear x" is something that has newly been reintroduced as a reaction to perceived "sexualization", imply it either wasn't something happening during this backlash against sexualization, or at the very least wasn't a problem then

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the current norm of "Character has to wear sexualized clothing" isn't a problem now?

Both of which I address here. It's easy to ignore the problems with the status quo, even when they don't align with your beliefs.

 

 

1 hour ago, Shrimpolaris said:

 

Everyone should wear what they want, and when it comes to fiction, everyone should design characters and stories how they want without facing a crowd of "How dare you draw that" and "Sexualization REEEEE".

And that includes Art and fiction i hate, maybe even due to these reasons.

Plenty of folk whining "but my waifu REEEEE" , or "How dare you side with SJWs" to ensure character stay as sexulaized as they are. Assuming no one got angry enough to start sending death threats to the voice actors, or just someone on the credits with a female name, because a character wasn't sexualized enough...

[BrightBow]

43 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said:

Ah yes, the game where they gave the cartoon hedgehog a gun.

Some pretty remarkable songs too.

 

Edited April 29, 2022 by BrightBow

[Saint Rubenio]

Okay, yeah, the people were right. Bast Gunwood is a boss. As if the sheer beard power he sports and the fact that he's literally called Bast Gunwood wasn't enough of an indicator.

36 minutes ago, Acacia Sgt said:

I prefer the potoroo with a tommy gun.

Ahaha, that one's great too. But does it say "crikey! I'm dead!"? Cause that's a pretty great line, if I do say so myself.

Just now, BrightBow said:

Some pretty remarkable music tracks too.

 

And people complained about Kelik.

As I wrote this, I remembered he uses a track from this game as his personal theme. Even though he's a delicate flower compared to this buffoon.

[Acacia Sgt]

Now give Kelik a gun...

 

2 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said:

Ahaha, that one's great too. But does it say "crikey! I'm dead!"? Cause that's a pretty great line, if I do say so myself.

Haha, sadly no. Game didn't had that much voice acting to begin with.

Edited April 29, 2022 by Acacia Sgt

[BrightBow]

I mean, they gave Mario a gun.

[Shrimpica]

21 minutes ago, Eltosian Kadath said:

imply it either wasn't something happening during this backlash against sexualization, or at the very least wasn't a problem then

Other posts where i talked about how i am against forcing anyone wearing any thing should make clear i am not implying this here.

21 minutes ago, Eltosian Kadath said:

Plenty of folk whining "but my waifu REEEEE" , or "How dare you side with SJWs" to ensure character stay as sexulaized as they are. Assuming no one got angry enough to start sending death threats to the voice actors, or just someone on the credits with a female name, because a character wasn't sexualized enough...

whataboutism doesn't make it better.  And anyone who sends death threat or harasses is an idiot, but responding to harassment to Artists with "but the other side" ain't exactly in good faith.

[BrightBow]

 

[Benice]

8 hours ago, Saint Rubenio said:

Fuck gender norms, I'll sit to pee if I bloody well please.

Or you could use Alberta's handlebar urinals!

[Shrimpica]

kinda funny how during the whole sexualization talk someone sends me sexualized Shrimp lmaoooooooo

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