Acacia Sgt Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Eternal Sonata is a game I've long had the desire to play... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterIceTeaPeach Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 Christmas dinner was marvelous yesterday. Big compliment to my aunt for being a superior cook. Technically christmas is over for me now. Anyways since there are multiple people here who have play(ed) Octopath Traveler, I might do a LP of this, since I'm totally lost without help. People could watch it and give me tips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interdimensional Observer Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Armagon said: Generally one would not want their story-based game to take place in a dream unless it really makes sense in context. I doubt this is Inception It's stated outright from the start (the Japanese title of the game even). You're shown Frederic Francois Chopin laying in bed, eyes closed, on a dark, rainy night as life ebbs away (no coughing of blood thankfully, the game doesn't mention the cause was likely at least in part from tuberculosis). Why they did this, no reason other than the game's director wanting to spread greater awareness of the Polish piano perfectionist in a colorful fantasy setting. The dream is the means by which that fantasy world was made to exist. It's hardly relevant to the main story. You get a few snippets of biographical information about Chopin's life when each chapter ends with a composition of his being played, but thats about it on the composer. The game's story isn't some elaborate biography about Chopin's life, the adventure isn't symbolic of Frederic's passions and regrets as interpreted by the game's director. I'd say thats to its detriment actually. Since a more serious tone would be more depressing, but as is the story winds up being mostly a forgettable, simplistic, kid-friendly JRPG plot. Allegretto the typical sword boy outshines Frederic as the male lead at points. It's a happy and lighthearted (though not comedic) game overall, even the ending finds a way to weave some joy into it. 5 minutes ago, Jules Necrofantasia said: Anyways since there are multiple people here who have play(ed) Octopath Traveler, I might do a LP of this, since I'm totally lost without help. Not sure if the game is for you, it was made by a subset of Square. And I'm aware of your total inability to derive joy from that company. Edited December 21, 2020 by Interdimensional Observer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 I don't know, I think the whole... Spoiler Question about whether it all a dream, or in spite of it the world had become a real thing of its own... and Chopin deciding its the former and you have to fight him as he plans to "unmake" it... Was a very interesting plot direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterIceTeaPeach Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 Yes, I have never enjoyed one single game by Square Enix, but I think it's because of me for not taking the time to understand the battle system. That's why I would like to play it here to gain some tips from the people here to understand it which would also go for other games. I have Octopath Traveler in my library, so it would be a missed opportunity, if I never tried it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interdimensional Observer Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Acacia Sgt said: I don't know, I think the whole... Reveal hidden contents Question about whether it all a dream, or in spite of it the world had become a real thing of its own... and Chopin deciding its the former and you have to fight him as he plans to "unmake" it... Was a very interesting plot direction. The ending is a little odd, why did eternal recurrence show up there at the last minute? Nietzsche likely hadn't learned to read and write at the time Chopin died. The ending is Chopin-centric, but between the two ends of the game, Frederic, the creator of the entire world, is by no means the focal point of everything. Count Waltz isn't symbolic of big bad Prussia, Russia, and Austria that carved up his Poland; Polka is compared to his sister once (though we haven't a clue if they were truly close IRL), but thats as far as that idea goes. Allegretto is no younger Chopin (mind, he never got old, he died before he was 40), and do tell me if you find a deep meaning behind Beat, Salsa and her twin sister (who I preferred) whose name I forget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: The ending is a little odd, why did eternal recurrence show up there at the last minute? Nietzsche likely hadn't learned to read and write at the time Chopin died. The ending is Chopin-centric, but between the two ends of the game, Frederic, the creator of the entire world, is by no means the focal point of everything. Count Waltz isn't symbolic of big bad Prussia, Russia, and Austria that carved up his Poland; Polka is compared to his sister once (though we haven't a clue if they were truly close IRL), but thats as far as that idea goes. Allegretto is no younger Chopin (mind, he never got old, he died before he was 40), and do tell me if you find a deep meaning behind Beat, Salsa and her twin sister (who I preferred) whose name I forget. Exactly. The player is introduced to the world as it being Chopin's dying dream, but it starts to put that into doubt as things don't start to add up from what you expect of it. Since either Chopin has an active imagination as well as prophetic for the anachronic terms, or something else is going on. The fact he's not at the centre point of what is supposed to be his own dream... Edited December 21, 2020 by Acacia Sgt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterIceTeaPeach Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) I guess it's better to continue the LP Rune Factory 4 before anyways. As for Super Thracia I'm not in the mood to do it all alone tbh. My ranking of played (main) Kirby games: Robobot Return To Dreamland Triple Deluxe Dreamland 3 Dreamland 2 Superstar Adventure (NES) Dreamland If I had friends with me, I would rank Return To Dreamland as #1 naturally, but I find Robobot a more fun single player game. I really hope Switch will get virtual console for 64 because I would like to play 64 so badly. Edited December 21, 2020 by Jules Necrofantasia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterIceTeaPeach Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) Interesting, I didn't know that Robobot introduced Kirby Fighters. Interesting because I just started the sequel for Switch yesterday, and honestly, I'm really terrible at this. It's funny that minigames like this and Clash (the Smash Bros likish game) from Triple Deluxe became "real" games. And Fighters even has a gacha mechanic from what I've seen, at least ingame transactions can be made. Edited December 21, 2020 by Jules Necrofantasia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Eltosian Kadath said: ...I know I shouldn't start another LP, but...I am so tempted to LP a Pokemon Crystal Nuzlocke... Its hard not to get inspired by Jaiden animation's Nuzlocke videos, and I almost started this before...well I guess I did start the run, my original plan was to do a smaller thing here, but...well... I started to roleplay, and that isn't a small thing to convey, but I didn't want to start another LP, but... Its just so tempting...I mean she even named one of her Pokes the same, and I want to share that story... hmm... How close are you to finishing your current LP? I would love to LP a game sometime, but I see so many people all losing the motivations for their LP. 1 hour ago, Jules Necrofantasia said: Anyways since there are multiple people here who have play(ed) Octopath Traveler, I might do a LP of this, since I'm totally lost without help. People could watch it and give me tips. Well, I did beat the super final boss at the end, so I sUpPoSe I know a thing or two. 😎 What do you mean I used someone else’s strategy? Do you know how cheap that boss is?? All those summons needing to be killed and once they are dead you have to break the boss before it moves again or they will all just come back and the cleric divine skill but it’s AoE... 1 hour ago, Jules Necrofantasia said: Yes, I have never enjoyed one single game by Square Enix, but I think it's because of me for not taking the time to understand the battle system. That's why I would like to play it here to gain some tips from the people here to understand it which would also go for other games. I have Octopath Traveler in my library, so it would be a missed opportunity, if I never tried it out. Oh you do? I was going to recommend the demo but that’s cool! Now pick Tressa. —— So I did go back and watch Ophelia’s story in the in-game journal since I kinda want to actually know what the plot is about since I did just beat the super final boss. All of her story scenes took me a little under two hours, which was longer than I was expecting. I’m going to look at all the other characters as well, and then try and find a good video on the lore because the lore books in the boss rush room are definitely about some plot elements from the stories and I know my first time through, when I actually read them, I was blown away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterIceTeaPeach Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) Octopath Traveler was one of my first Switch games actually since I saw it for a price of about 30 € (often goes on sale). The nostalgic artstyle rised my interest in this game. I chosed Ophilia's story, but I couldn't beat first boss because it couldn't be taken down within like 50 turns. That's when I quitted the game... Anyways how long is this game? A blind LP of a Switch game which is not Fire Emblem shouldn't consume too much of my freetime. The alternative is to make a post (screenshot) whenever I get stuck, so this be just a question-answer thing. Rune Factory 4 has the advantage that the length can be decided by the player. Edited December 21, 2020 by Jules Necrofantasia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterIceTeaPeach Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) Alisa on #8 makes me happy although it also surprised me a bit in a positive way. Like her honestly even more in III and IV. Besides Fie she's she most developed female original Class VII member considering her personal backround. Edited December 21, 2020 by Jules Necrofantasia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterIceTeaPeach Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) Hmm, I still don't know what to LP... sorry Edited December 21, 2020 by Jules Necrofantasia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterIceTeaPeach Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 I find it cool that Meta Knight's story mode is kinda of a SRPG by having a MP stat and skills which consume them. It's fun even if way too easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eltosian Kadath Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 59 minutes ago, Sooks said: How close are you to finishing your current LP? Well, at the rate the Awakening on is going...a long time. That one has had a lot of technical difficulties, and writing about that game's story, and god forbid the supports, is draining. I have already felt the need to use both of the following reactions multiple times, and I suspect I will need to do so again... Spoiler Plus I will get back to the blind Berwick Saga run eventually as well... 59 minutes ago, Sooks said: I would love to LP a game sometime, but I see so many people all losing the motivations for their LP. You might as well give it a go. It is fun, although it takes more time and effort than you would think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rubenio Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 6 hours ago, Jules Necrofantasia said: Yes, I have never enjoyed one single game by Square Enix, but I think it's because of me for not taking the time to understand the battle system. That's why I would like to play it here to gain some tips from the people here to understand it which would also go for other games. I have Octopath Traveler in my library, so it would be a missed opportunity, if I never tried it out. I would recommend Octopath, and I'm not someone who enjoys JRPGs usually. I find them to be tedious 99% of the time. Never could get into the classics, such as Final Fantasy 6 or Chrono Trigger. But Octopath's fighting system is really fun, which for me made all the difference. 5 hours ago, Jules Necrofantasia said: Octopath Traveler was one of my first Switch games actually since I saw it for a price of about 30 € (often goes on sale). The nostalgic artstyle rised my interest in this game. I chosed Ophilia's story, but I couldn't beat first boss because it couldn't be taken down within like 50 turns. That's when I quitted the game... It's a pretty common joke in the comment sections of extended Octopath music that it's not really extended because bosses take just as long. That being said, I find it difficult to believe that the very first boss could take that long. Didn't you take advantage of the break system? If you play again, I would recommend Cyrus as your starter. Cyrus has an ability that lets him reveal one enemy weakness at the start of a battle, and he can learn Analyze to reveal even more weaknesses, so you don't have to fire attacks blindly at the enemy in hopes of finding their weaknesses. His damage is also far greater than Ophilia's, which should make what fights he has to face on his own end faster. He's a good choice for a beginner, I think. 4 hours ago, Sooks said: I would love to LP a game sometime, but I see so many people all losing the motivations for their LP. I can't say I blame them. LPing requires effort and is time-consuming. I find it fun enough to have done multiple, but I'm also lucky enough to have the time for it. 5 minutes ago, Eltosian Kadath said: Plus I will get back to the blind Berwick Saga run eventually as well... I hope so, I was enjoying that one. I felt a little bad when I started my own one barely a month after yours. I didn't mean to steal your thunder or anything, but I had been aching to LP Berwick for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterIceTeaPeach Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said: I would recommend Octopath, and I'm not someone who enjoys JRPGs usually. I find them to be tedious 99% of the time. Never could get into the classics, such as Final Fantasy 6 or Chrono Trigger. But Octopath's fighting system is really fun, which for me made all the difference. It's a pretty common joke in the comment sections of extended Octopath music that it's not really extended because bosses take just as long. That being said, I find it difficult to believe that the very first boss could take that long. Didn't you take advantage of the break system? I can only assume, but isn't the first boss just a survival? Considering it's a first boss I can't imagine it can take like 30 hits as it was the case when I played it. If not, I will take the suggestion and do Cyrus's story. Edited December 21, 2020 by Jules Necrofantasia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Saint Rubenio Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Jules Necrofantasia said: I can only assume, but isn't the first boss just a survival? Nope. You can and have to beat that boss. 1 hour ago, Jules Necrofantasia said: Considering it's a first boss I can't imagine it can take like 30 hits as it was the case when I played it. Well, Octopath boss fights can get long. I personally don't think it's such a terrible flaw, but yeah. These are no three hit deals. Doesn't help that Ophilia's initial damage output is garbage, being a designated healer and all. There's ways to improve it (this game's characters are highly customizable), but well, not in time for the first boss. 1 hour ago, Jules Necrofantasia said: If not, I will take the suggestion and do Cyrus's story. Cyrus's first boss should probably take at least a little less time, his damage being as good as it is. Out of curiousity, did you avoid random encounters? In both my runs I was at level 5 when I faced the first boss. 34 minutes ago, Dayni said: mood mood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterIceTeaPeach Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 Beaten Meta Knight's story mode. Now time for the final and "true" challenge, the True Arena. Rage forecasted. 42 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said: Nope. You can and have to beat that boss. Well, Octopath boss fights can get long. I personally don't think it's such a terrible flaw, but yeah. These are no three hit deals. Doesn't help that Ophilia's initial damage output is garbage, being a designated healer and all. There's ways to improve it (this game's characters are highly customizable), but well, not in time for the first boss. Cyrus's first boss should probably take at least a little less time, his damage being as good as it is. Alright, I will play Cyrus's story then! I was level 4 for that boss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterIceTeaPeach Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 Oh well, I made it to a certain knight, so quite far. My run was ruined against Sectionia clone which is embarassing because I should know the boss from playing Kirby Triple Deluxe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightcosmo Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Just started playing this game on Emulator recently: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 8 hours ago, Jules Necrofantasia said: Anyways how long is this game? I got every character, did all eight stories, every side quest and every optional job shrine and the super boss at the end plus bosh rush and I have 100 hours clocked in (more but that’s because I watched Ophilia’s story). Do note that the game is a bit grindy, but if you do what I did for the four stories and grind up your main party and then switch a character out when you’re finished with their chapter for a character you don’t use as much, and repeat this process with your other two replaceable party members they should end up fine and you won’t have to grind that much. 8 hours ago, Jules Necrofantasia said: The alternative is to make a post (screenshot) whenever I get stuck, so this be just a question-answer thing. I’m down! 4 hours ago, Jules Necrofantasia said: It's fun even if way too easy. Kirby in a nutshell, from what I hear. 3 hours ago, Saint Rubenio said: I would recommend Octopath, and I'm not someone who enjoys JRPGs usually. I find them to be tedious 99% of the time. Never could get into the classics, such as Final Fantasy 6 or Chrono Trigger. But Octopath's fighting system is really fun, which for me made all the difference. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I couldn’t have said it better myself. 3 hours ago, Saint Rubenio said: It's a pretty common joke in the comment sections of extended Octopath music that it's not really extended because bosses take just as long. That being said, I find it difficult to believe that the very first boss could take that long. Didn't you take advantage of the break system? When you’re using just Ophelia you have to devote equally as much time to not dying. I think that’s what he meant. 3 hours ago, Saint Rubenio said: If you play again, I would recommend Cyrus as your starter. Cyrus has an ability that lets him reveal one enemy weakness at the start of a battle, and he can learn Analyze to reveal even more weaknesses, so you don't have to fire attacks blindly at the enemy in hopes of finding their weaknesses. His damage is also far greater than Ophilia's, which should make what fights he has to face on his own end faster. He's a good choice for a beginner, I think. This is good reasoning, and Cyrus is one of my favorites, at least top four since he made it into my main team, so I say go for it. Analyze does make him really beginner friendly now that I think about it. 3 hours ago, Saint Rubenio said: I can't say I blame them. LPing requires effort and is time-consuming. I find it fun enough to have done multiple, but I'm also lucky enough to have the time for it. Heh, I definitely have a lot of time lying around... hm... 3 hours ago, Jules Necrofantasia said: I can only assume, but isn't the first boss just a survival? Considering it's a first boss I can't imagine it can take like 30 hits as it was the case when I played it. If not, I will take the suggestion and do Cyrus's story. Oh, no every boss fight you have to kill the boss (or capture it if you want to, with some optional bosses). Did you use Ophilia’s insanely poweful light magic attack or were using a staff attack? And of course, boosting and breaking. I would be very surprised if that boss isn’t weak to light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterIceTeaPeach Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Sooks said: I got every character, did all eight stories, every side quest and every optional job shrine and the super boss at the end plus bosh rush and I have 100 hours clocked in (more but that’s because I watched Ophilia’s story). Do note that the game is a bit grindy, but if you do what I did for the four stories and grind up your main party and then switch a character out when you’re finished with their chapter for a character you don’t use as much, and repeat this process with your other two replaceable party members they should end up fine and you won’t have to grind that much. I’m down! I could start it once I've completed Kirby Robobot. And this sounds like good way for just doing the game once. Kirby in a nutshell, from what I hear. Main game is easy, but the bossbattle mode mainly isn't, if you want to complete their games 100%. Oh, no every boss fight you have to kill the boss (or capture it if you want to, with some optional bosses). Did you use Ophilia’s insanely poweful light magic attack or were using a staff attack? And of course, boosting and breaking. I would be very surprised if that boss isn’t weak to light. I don't remember. Just looked up the savefile; it has been exactly two years today when I played the game the last time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Octopath traveler gave me a crown on the title screen for cheesing beating the final boss. That’s nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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