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20 minutes ago, Sooks said:

Yeah, and I’m not the one that’s known as the contrarian of teehee so it can actually be trusted now.

Woo!

20 minutes ago, Sooks said:
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I actually knew that, discovered it in my play through. But I thought it was just related to the jumpscare and didn’t think anything much of it.

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Heh, yeah. Guess who was fooled by that too?

Incidentally, you can actually see the process of Sunny deluding himself into believing a door doesn't exist in real time in one of the bad endings. More on that later.

20 minutes ago, Sooks said:

You know, I didn’t think about this while I was playing because I was convinced that I was going to get a horrible ending, but after the fact I realized that the story really was depression. Like even on paper the core plot was just so depressing, but I hadn’t thought about it, so the emotions hit me after the fact.

Game good though.

It's extremely sad, but... hey, at least there's a good ending, right?

20 minutes ago, Sooks said:

Fine, those are good points. Yeah leave it up to Ruben to successfully defend Omori, you are right.

I mean, I am rather passionate about the game. It did things to me, y'know.

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It kind of did make me forget about it, only because I wasn’t sure on the specifics. When I was considering playing it, I think it had been a little while since I read it, which I was I shaky on the details. Luckily, the details I was shaky on was who was involved, but I was definitely sure that someone pushed someone down the stairs and they died. And I also read a second spoiler along with that (I don’t remember at all what it was now), which I think mentioned Mari as well. Which is why I think I believed you, I just assumed I misremembered. And since I didn’t see any possible way the stairs could fit in, I did just completely forget about it.

…until the part where you’re collecting photos of what really happened (aka the best scene in the game, seriously, so good) and when I got the first one that showed Sunny and Mari at the stairs I started internally screaming lol.

The game doesn’t tell you she committed suicide until the second day, and even then it’s only a moderate implication, not directly confirmed until the third day, so I was actually worried that knowing that was a big spoiler! Hah!

 

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So basically, it all came together to fool you. Really glad it did.

And... yeah, I can relate to that second sentence. It really is the best scene in the game, and I was screaming internally as well. Pretty loudly, at that. Holy shit, that was rough to watch.

 

20 minutes ago, Sooks said:
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A little bit after I started playing the game I baselessly assumed you had made a horrible choice in Omori at some point and made fun of you for it, typical teehee fashion. After you understood the joke you said something about “Ohhh there was that one thing Sooks, how could you remind me, oh I hated that” and then when I joked I would get it right you said the odds weren’t high, and then later in white text you said “thought I was going to backtrack in the white text? No, I mean there’s a chance, but it’s not high” so yeah, unless you were joking and that completely flew over my head.

And yes, tell me about all of the alternate endings, please and thank you. If you want to anyway, I guess I can just Google them.

…but what’s the deal with the Hikikomori route? How on Earth can it properly function without the real life stuff?

Also, what actually happened when Basil and Sunny fought? I get that the monster things aren’t real, I think, or are a representation of something, but does that mean Sunny just went in there and beating the living daylights out of Basil or did all that stuff actually happen? I guess Sunny probably thought it did, maybe?

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Ahhhh, yeah... I remember that comment. See, I was talking about the Mewo room in Black Space. You know, where I failed to realize that I could've just stabbed Omori to leave? Yeah, that's the mistake I was referring to. I must say, I really did think you wouldn't notice either. Joke's on me after all.

The Hikikomori route heavily expands on the dream world, in too many ways to explain in detail here, so I digress. You do still wake up a couple of times, but instead of going out with Kel, you do chores instead. Remember that list, that Sunny keeps putting off in the main route only for Hero to take care of it near the end of the game? Yeah, you do that in the Hikikomori route. Obviously, you never meet your friends again, Sunny never stops repressing his emotions and his memories, the details of Mari's death are never revealed and you're locked to two bad endings. But hey, you save dream Basil! It's... something, right?

About the fight, it's safe to say that while the Somethings and the "reach inside" attacks are just metaphors, the fight very much did happen. Considering Basil ended up there as well and the state of his face in the secret ending scene, I believe Sunny was winning the fight... Until Basil used his gardening shears. I believe you can see them in his room earlier in the game, and though they're hidden by the combat UI, he's holding them in his hand the entire time. He tried to stab Something, except Something obviously doesn't exist, and Sunny's eye was in the way. Basil must've passed out shortly afterwards from the shock and his own injuries.

For alternate endings...

- If you select not to continue after losing to Omori in the good ending route, the cutscene where Omori hugs Sunny plays, but Sunny disappears instead. You are transported to White Space, and upon going through the door, you find your dream friends as usual. However, when leaving the big cat room, you find yourself at the roof of the hospital as Sunny. Remember in the main ending, how the dream friends go up in the hallway while shadow Basil goes down? If you follow the dream friends, you reach a door, but Sunny refuses to go through it. He just shakes his head if you try, no longer wanting to run from his sins. It's implied that this is where he goes in the bad ending.

The only option at this point is to walk to the edge and jump. The credits play as Sunny plummets down a seemingly endless abyss.

- This isn't an ending, exactly, but it's worth mentioning. If you go back to sleep when you wake up in Basil's house (yeah, you can do that) instead of going to get stabbed by him or escaping the house, you wake up again shortly afterwards. Aubrey, Hero, Kel and Basil's caretaker Polly are all standing in the hallway outside his room, devastated. If you try entering it, Sunny peers through the gap in the door and sees Basil's corpse, surrounded by his Something and bleeding from the chest. Probably stabbed himself with the shears. How was he allowed to keep those things so close at hand...? Polly, you had one job.

Anyway, at this point, the door fades away, and if you inspect the part of the wall where it used to be, the same "there is nothing here" textbox appears as when you inspect the wall in Sunny's house, which is a great detail. Then you are left to return to Sunny's house, where you can obtain the following endings. Which, by the way, are the only endings you can get in the Hikikomori route.

- If you go to sleep without the knife, you wake up to workers packing everything up and Sunny's mother waiting outside in her car. You can go out and enter the car. However, Something follows right behind Sunny as he enters the car, signifying that his guilt will continue to consume him. As the screen fades to black and the credits play, an ambulance's siren can be heard in the distance, implying that even if you left his house immediately and didn't see his corpse, Basil still committed suicide during the night.

- You can also take the knife and use it to stab Sunny, much like you can with Omori in White Space. He hesitates for a moment and then goes for it. There's a slight variant of this ending that I find it especially chilling, it happens if you grab the knife and then go to sleep. After the fade to black, the sounds of Sunny's phone can be heard... But he cannot answer, because when the room is revealed, you find him lying on the bed, his hands still gripping the knife in his gut.

 

You can watch them for yourself here, if you're curious. But I'll warn you, they're not easy to watch.

 

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2 minutes ago, DodgeDusk said:

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Best unit.

He doesn't have three Blow skills and Countermagic like Kumagera does, though, does he?

2 minutes ago, DodgeDusk said:

EDIT: Sorry, Ruben, but Haitaka fell so Hinata could run.

Eh. Your loss.

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57 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said:

It's extremely sad, but... hey, at least there's a good ending, right?

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”Good” until it’s revealed that after that fade to black Hero throws Sunny out of a hospital window and he dies anyway

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I mean, I am rather passionate about the game. It did things to me, y'know.

Like giving you nightmares?

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The Hikikomori route heavily expands on the dream world, in too many ways to explain in detail here, so I digress. You do still wake up a couple of times, but instead of going out with Kel, you do chores instead. Remember that list, that Sunny keeps putting off in the main route only for Hero to take care of it near the end of the game? Yeah, you do that in the Hikikomori route. Obviously, you never meet your friends again, Sunny never stops repressing his emotions and his memories, the details of Mari's death are never revealed and you're locked to two bad endings. But hey, you save dream Basil! It's... something, right?

 

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What do you mean you “save” dream Basil? You literally just said Sunny never stops repressing his emotions and his memories and that the details of Mari’s death are never revealed, which would include Sunny revealing them to himself. There was that guy who talks as you’re leaving Humphrey about the black lightbulb being the repression of an idea (the game all but outright says this is what happened to Mari, you literally smash the lightbulb to see the truth), that Basil will always realize the truth (because, y’know) and that the cycle is doomed to repeat, and he was probably right. Without the truth being revealed that cycle will repeat, so Basil will probably be gone again by tomorrow. He can’t even catch a break in the dream world…

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About the fight, it's safe to say that while the Somethings and the "reach inside" attacks are just metaphors, the fight very much did happen. Considering Basil ended up there as well and the state of his face in the secret ending scene, I believe Sunny was winning the fight... Until Basil used his gardening shears. I believe you can see them in his room earlier in the game, and though they're hidden by the combat UI, he's holding them in his hand the entire time. He tried to stab Something, except Something obviously doesn't exist, and Sunny's eye was in the way. Basil must've passed out shortly afterwards from the shock and his own injuries.

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Well yes, the fight obviously happened, I was just wondering what Sunny and Basil thought in the moment. Sunny probably was having delusions, but Basil probably had no clue, poor kid.

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For alternate endings...

- If you select not to continue after losing to Omori in the good ending route, the cutscene where Omori hugs Sunny plays, but Sunny disappears instead. You are transported to White Space, and upon going through the door, you find your dream friends as usual. However, when leaving the big cat room, you find yourself at the roof of the hospital as Sunny. Remember in the main ending, how the dream friends go up in the hallway while shadow Basil goes down? If you follow the dream friends, you reach a door, but Sunny refuses to go through it. He just shakes his head if you try, no longer wanting to run from his sins. It's implied that this is where he goes in the bad ending.

The only option at this point is to walk to the edge and jump. The credits play as Sunny plummets down a seemingly endless abyss.

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I just want to point out how incredibly dark the implication that Sunny’s dream friends that he used as a form of escapism and some sort of happiness lead him to the hospital roof instead of to confess to everyone. 

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- This isn't an ending, exactly, but it's worth mentioning. If you go back to sleep when you wake up in Basil's house (yeah, you can do that) instead of going to get stabbed by him or escaping the house, you wake up again shortly afterwards. Aubrey, Hero, Kel and Basil's caretaker Polly are all standing in the hallway outside his room, devastated. If you try entering it, Sunny peers through the gap in the door and sees Basil's corpse, surrounded by his Something and bleeding from the chest. Probably stabbed himself with the shears. How was he allowed to keep those things so close at hand...? Polly, you had one job.

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Fun fact, I accidentally did this when I loaded a save at Basil’s house, I stood on the sleeping bag and I was trying to interact with Aubrey asleep on the couch, which I did last time, so I just mashed Z but suddenly he went back to sleep and then everyone had left the room. I didn’t hesitate to load a save though.

Also, what’s with you and Basil’s gardening shears?

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You can watch them for yourself here, if you're curious. But I'll warn you, they're not easy to watch.

All of those bad endings seemed like peak depression. Of course I’m going to watch them.

This isn’t a good idea, is it?

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10 hours ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

There is no shortage of options. A quick primer:

  • Phantasia- The game that started it all! But, the only official English version is the GBA one, and that one can be "you can count the frames" slow. A fan translation of the PS1 port exists IIRC, but it's language can be... "11-year-old who has learned sex exists and is cool!" juvenile.  It's also not exactly the best aged in neither gameplay, nor story, nor characterization. 
  • Destiny, Eternia, Destiny 2- The 2D combat Tales that followed Phantasia. Never played 'em myself, so I don't know much about them. Destiny 2 never left Japan, and Eternia was rebranded Destiny 2 confusingly enough in the West.
  • Symphonia- The breakout title that went 3D. Pretty by-the-numbers story looking back on it, and maybe the cast is a bit too big. Best for puzzles in dungeons, which gradually died afterwards. But the first game to go 3D in combat, it has aged the worst in this regard.
  • Rebirth, Legendia- I don't know much about these, other than being 2D Tales after the franchise went 3D. Rebirth is Japan-only.
  • Vesperia- Loved by some as the greatest Tales. Me, I'm not hot on its story, and overall the cast has highs and lows, I find Abyss and Symphonia to have smoother ones. Fairly similar to Abyss in combat.
  • Tempest, Innocence, Hearts- Portable Tales, all very inaccessible. Tempest and Innocence are Japan-only, Hearts's Vita version is its sole English one. Tempest was so bad that they downgraded it to an "escort" -meaning "spinoff"- title.
  • Graces- The gameplay alone is good, quite loved by some, and it makes itself fairly distinct from Symphonia-Abyss-Vesperia. Story winds up being incredibly safe and unimaginative, despite the interesting premise. The cast is lacking by Tales standards.
  • Xillia- Interesting choice of dual protagonists, although the story differences are mostly minor outside of three rather small sections of the story. I liked it overall.
  • Symphonia: Dawn of the New World, and Xillia 2- Sequels to games that did not strictly require them from a story perspective. The old crews return, but the focus gets placed on new playable characters, a spineless moody boy & a girl who adores him in the first case, a silent male protagonist and NPC girl in the second. Asset recycling happens in the former case, I haven't played the second, but I'd expect some recycling there too. These have their defenders, like all games do, but tend to get flak.
  • Zestiria- Usually heavily criticized for its gameplay. The cast and story haven't gotten much love either from what I've glimpsed.
1 hour ago, Armagon said:

@twilitfalchion to add to Observer's breakdown of the series, Berseria, Zestiria's distant prequel, is well beloved by fans. Me personally, the plot itself is whatever but the characters are pretty good. Gameplay-wise, it's the first Tales game to ditch the LMBS style of gameplay (the whole "3D ARPG is actually 2D") in favor of a more traditional ARPG battle system. It's not as good as Arise but that's because Arise refined it.

I see. Gotcha. 👍

5 hours ago, Shrimperor said:

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lmao

13 minutes ago, Armagon said:

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Xenoblade

thought the same thing when I played the demo

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19 minutes ago, Sooks said:
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”Good” until it’s revealed that after that fade to black Hero throws Sunny out of a hospital window and he dies anyway

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Like giving you nightmares?

Er... yes, among other things, I suppose.

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What do you mean you “save” dream Basil? You literally just said Sunny never stops repressing his emotions and his memories and that the details of Mari’s death are never revealed, which would include Sunny revealing them to himself. There was that guy who talks as you’re leaving Humphrey about the black lightbulb being the repression of an idea (the game all but outright says this is what happened to Mari, you literally smash the lightbulb to see the truth), that Basil will always realize the truth (because, y’know) and that the cycle is doomed to repeat, and he was probably right. Without the truth being revealed that cycle will repeat, so Basil will probably be gone again by tomorrow lol.

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Well yes, the fight obviously happened, I was just wondering what Sunny and Basil thought in the moment. Sunny probably was having delusions, but Basil probably had no clue, poor kid.

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I just want to point out how incredibly dark the implication that Sunny’s dream friends that he used as a form of escapism and some sort of happiness lead him to the hospital roof instead of to confess to everyone. 

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Fun fact, I accidentally did this when I loaded a save at Basil’s house, I stood on the sleeping bag and I was trying to interact with Aubrey asleep on the couch, which I did last time, so I just mashed Z but suddenly he went back to sleep and then everyone had left the room. I didn’t hesitate to load a save though.

Also, what’s with you and Basil’s gardening shears?

Hurray, Serenes spoilers! All in a row! Well, two can play at that game.

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When I say you save dream Basil, I mean you save dream Basil. As in, the Basil in Sunny's dreams. You know, the whole quest you started the game with? Finding Basil after his mysterious disappearance? You complete that in the Hikikomori route. Omori finds Basil and everyone lives happily ever after until Sunny decides to restart the cycle.

Of course, it's nothing more than a fantasy, while the real Basil is carried off to the morgue with a gaping wound in his chest. Wholesome game, eh?

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Quite the opposite, in fact. Basil was the one who had gone completely mad and delusional. With his parents gone most of the time and his grandma bedridden, Basil had nobody until he was introduced to the group. He cherished his friends more than anything. Then the accident happened and he deluded himself into thinking it was some sort of monster that killed Mari, because if he faced the truth, it meant losing his best friend, his whole world crumbling around him. He's the one who came up with the idea to frame it as a suicide, to deceive more themselves than anybody else. He was a panicking 12 year old and Sunny is implied to have shut down in his shock, it's no wonder he reacted so badly.

Then Sunny vanished, Aubrey started to bully him and everyone else abandoned him. Basil grew even more dependant on his memories of Sunny and the idea of their perfect friendship that would one day be rekindled. He hoped one day things would go back to the way they were, and they'd live on happily as they used to do.

The news that Sunny would soon move away and they might not see each other ever again completely broke him. You can see how he becomes more and more unstable as the day of Sunny's departure grows ever closer. So the night before, he lost it. If left to his own devices, he takes his own life so he doesn't have to go on carrying the guilt on his own. When Sunny interrupts his suicide attempt, Basil decides to kill "Something" in hopes it would fix everything somehow.

As for Sunny, I'd say he just panicked and tried to defend himself from the mentally unstable kid charging at him with a pair gardening shears in his hand. It makes enough sense. Don't get me wrong, though, he very much was delusional as well. They were both having a simultaneous break down at that point. Just... Basil was having the bigger one.

...Incidentally, can I point out the implications of the fact that Basil knew how to recreate a suicide scene at the time Mari died? The fact that he even knew to skillfully tie a noose and hang her body from the neck implies he tried to do it to himself before. You know, at the tender age of 12. Holy shit, the poor kid...

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Hey now, what do you mean "incredibly dark implication"? Have you forgotten that Omori is a really sweet and wholesome game? They just wanted Sunny to partake in the beautiful sport of skydiving.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You know, without a parachute--

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I just find it kind of horrible that Basil was allowed to keep an item that he could (and would, in some endings) use to harm himself or others even though he's suicidal and mentally unstable.

 

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All of those bad endings seemed like peak depression. Of course I’m going to watch them.

This isn’t a good idea, is it?

Well... I've watched them. They're... something, all right.

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13 minutes ago, twilitfalchion said:

thought the same thing when I played the demo

This game's premise of "boy meets girl who gives him a fire sword" is literally Xenoblade 2 except it's what if Pyra had Mythra's personality.

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43 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said:
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Yes.

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Actually, though, I feel like Hero would be the most empathetic to him because of how he snapped at Kel and his whole “I’m not abandoning my friends again” thing at Basil’s house.

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When I say you save dream Basil, I mean you save dream Basil. As in, the Basil in Sunny's dreams. You know, the whole quest you started the game with? Finding Basil after his mysterious disappearance? You complete that in the Hikikomori route. Omori finds Basil and everyone lives happily ever after until Sunny decides to restart the cycle.

Of course, it's nothing more than a fantasy, while the real Basil is carried off to the morgue with a gaping wound in his chest. Wholesome game, eh?

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Quite the opposite, in fact. Basil was the one who had gone completely mad and delusional. With his parents gone most of the time and his grandma bedridden, Basil had nobody until he was introduced to the group. He cherished his friends more than anything. Then the accident happened and he deluded himself into thinking it was some sort of monster that killed Mari, because if he faced the truth, it meant losing his best friend, his whole world crumbling around him. He's the one who came up with the idea to frame it as a suicide, to deceive more themselves than anybody else. He was a panicking 12 year old and Sunny is implied to have shut down in his shock, it's no wonder he reacted so badly.

Then Sunny vanished, Aubrey started to bully him and everyone else abandoned him. Basil grew even more dependant on his memories of Sunny and the idea of their perfect friendship that would one day be rekindled. He hoped one day things would go back to the way they were, and they'd live on happily as they used to do.

The news that Sunny would soon move away and they might not see each other ever again completely broke him. You can see how he becomes more and more unstable as the day of Sunny's departure grows ever closer. So the night before, he lost it. If left to his own devices, he takes his own life so he doesn't have to go on carrying the guilt on his own. When Sunny interrupts his suicide attempt, Basil decides to kill "Something" in hopes it would fix everything somehow.

As for Sunny, I'd say he just panicked and tried to defend himself from the mentally unstable kid charging at him with a pair gardening shears in his hand. It makes enough sense. Don't get me wrong, though, he very much was delusional as well. They were both having a simultaneous break down at that point. Just... Basil was having the bigger one.

...Incidentally, can I point out the implications of the fact that Basil knew how to recreate a suicide scene at the time Mari died? The fact that he even knew to skillfully tie a noose and hang her body from the neck implies he tried to do it to himself before. You know, at the tender age of 12. Holy shit, the poor kid...

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Hey now, what do you mean "incredibly dark implication"? Have you forgotten that Omori is a really sweet and wholesome game? They just wanted Sunny to partake in the beautiful sport of skydiving.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You know, without a parachute--

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I just find it kind of horrible that Basil was allowed to keep an item that he could (and would, in some endings) use to harm himself or others even though he's suicidal and mentally unstable.

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1. I know what you mean, it’s just that the whole saving Basil thing can’t really be all that permanent. Especially if you get the ending where Sunny dies right after.

How do you even save dream Basil if you never uncover the truth, meaning you never go into black space?

2. All of that makes sense, yeah, and I agree with it, but I wouldn’t right off Sunny like that since we see a monster thing swallowing Basil in the fight scene, as Sunny, not to mention seeing everything else.

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Well... I've watched them. They're... something, all right.

I watched them. They are indeed something.

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Wait, Ruben, how do you know that it was Basil’s idea to frame it as a suicide?

 

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2 minutes ago, Sooks said:

Yes.

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Actually, though, I feel like Hero would be the most empathetic to him because of how he snapped at Kel and his whole “I’m not abandoning my friends again” thing at Basil’s house.

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I feel he'd try to understand... Eventually. I don't think he'd just turn into Doom Guy immediately, he's too nice a guy for that, but he'd definitely take a huge blow from the news. Might even sink back into depression for a while. As for Kel, he's a simple guy. He's going to be confused and hurt for a while, but I doubt he'll hate them forever.

Actually, I feel Aubrey would be the first to come around after the initial shock. Let's not forget, she almost did the same thing, when she accidentally pushed Basil into the lake. Had it not been for Hero's timely arrival, she would've killed him, and maybe even Sunny as well. Realizing how close she had come to doing the exact same thing would lead to her empathizing with the two of them more than the other two, I feel.

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1. I know what you mean, it’s just that the whole saving Basil thing can’t really be all that permanent. Especially if you get the ending where Sunny dies right after.

How do you even save dream Basil if you never uncover the truth, meaning you never go into black space?

2. All of that makes sense, yeah, and I agree with it, but I wouldn’t right off Sunny like that since we see a monster thing swallowing Basil in the fight scene, as Sunny, not to mention seeing everything else.

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1. I'm not aware of the full details, as I haven't played the route myself, but yeah, you save dream Basil in the dream world.

2. Oh yeah, as I said, Sunny was absolutely losing it as well. But Basil was the one who attacked.

 

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39 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said:
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I feel he'd try to understand... Eventually. I don't think he'd just turn into Doom Guy immediately, he's too nice a guy for that, but he'd definitely take a huge blow from the news. Might even sink back into depression for a while. As for Kel, he's a simple guy. He's going to be confused and hurt for a while, but I doubt he'll hate them forever.

Actually, I feel Aubrey would be the first to come around after the initial shock. Let's not forget, she almost did the same thing, when she accidentally pushed Basil into the lake. Had it not been for Hero's timely arrival, she would've killed him, and maybe even Sunny as well. Realizing how close she had come to doing the exact same thing would lead to her empathizing with the two of them more than the other two, I feel.

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1. I'm not aware of the full details, as I haven't played the route myself, but yeah, you save dream Basil in the dream world.

2. Oh yeah, as I said, Sunny was absolutely losing it as well. But Basil was the one who attacked.

 

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I don’t get the Doom Guy joke, because I don’t know who that is.

I feel the same about Aubrey and Kel, I just think the logic you applied to Aubrey also applies to Hero, to a lesser extent.

I edited my previous post asking how you knew that it was Basil’s idea to frame it as a suicide, by the way.

 

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I don’t get the Doom Guy joke, because I don’t know who that is.

 

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I was just saying that I don't think Hero would've attacked Sunny straight up. Doom Guy is just the protagonist of the Doom franchise, nothing more to it.

9 minutes ago, Sooks said:
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I edited my previous post asking how you knew that it was Basil’s idea to frame it as a suicide, by the way.

 

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If you look at the images of the truth carefully, you can tell it was Basil who was leading the whole "operation." Don't forget, the pictures are Basil's PoV. Sunny dragged Mari upstairs and then... more or less shut down sitting next to her. Then there's a picture of Sunny being held from the shoulders by Basil, as if he's trying to convince Sunny of something, and the image immediately afterwards, they're carrying the body downstairs. Basil was the one who went out first, found a suitable tree and tied the noose with a jump rope.

So yeah. While it's not outright stated, it's subtly implied in the images that Basil was the one who came up with the idea. And hey, it adds up. He's super dependant on Sunny and deluded himself into thinking he's innocent and something behind him was the true culprit. It makes sense that he'd be desperate and scared enough to devise a fucked up way to save him from the consequences of his actions, to make sure he doesn't lose his precious best friend. Sunny followed along because he was completely mentally broken. Probably didn't even realize what was going on until he saw Mari's dead eyes staring in his direction.

Rather extreme actions for a 12 year old to take, perhaps, but... Well, if you take into account that he's very likely to be a suicidal, panicking 12 year old, it's not that far fetched. Kids do tend to try and hide the evidence of their wrongdoing when they drop a plate or something like that, in order to avoid their mother's wrath. This is just that... taken to a most terrible level.

 

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53 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said:

Hey 06, did you know that not posting is also an option?

B-but then how would I get people to remember that I'm here?

46 minutes ago, Armagon said:

One of these days, 06 will go too far and get banned.

Mark my words.

C'mon, I'm not dumb, and I haven't posted anything inappropriate yet. It's no worse than the swearing fest that takes place here.

https://i.imgur.com/4qv5fhV.jpg

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4 minutes ago, Ghost_06_ said:

B-but then how would I get people to remember that I'm here?

Perhaps you could post images of potted plants. Or something.

4 minutes ago, Ghost_06_ said:

C'mon, I'm not dumb, and I haven't posted anything inappropriate yet.

I dunno, I do seem to recall...

4 minutes ago, Ghost_06_ said:

It's no worse than the swearing fest that takes place here.

That's not fucking true, Ghost. Slander, is what it is. Ass cheeks and crap, I tell you.

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4 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said:

Or something.

Here's something

https://i.imgur.com/crN6yGI.jpeghttps://i.imgur.com/b4Bcuhz.jpeg

5 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said:

I dunno, I do seem to recall...

Recall what?

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