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Time/Path-locked supports compilation thread revisited (with minor spoilers)

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To avoid reviving an old thread missing quite a few supports, I'm making this new one so we can complete it. I will try to keep it in support log order (Byleth first, then lords, BE, BL, GD, others) and may format it differently later. Any help is welcome, such as missing supports or errors like the wrong chapter. There are a few question marks, and I hope someone can help mention any additional specifics, specially since I think some of the pre-timeskip-only ones may have specific deadlines. I also recall seeing some Ashen Wolves supports with timeskip locks, but could only find Ashe/Hapi.

Legend: after means after the chapter starts or a pre-requesite is completed; until means until chapter mission; CF - Crimson Flower/Black Eagles Edelgard Route; AM - Azure Moon/Blue Lions; VW - Verdant Wind/Golden Deer; SS - Silver Snow/Black Eagles Church Route; (?) means information may be missing or conflicts with claims

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Byleth x Edelgard C - after chapter 5/until chapter 11; C+ - after chapter 6/until chapter 11;  B onwards - after chapter 12, only on CF
Byleth x Dimitri C - unlocked after chapter 4 until chapter 11
Byleth x Claude C - until chapter 9; B - until chapter 12 (may have an after chapter 9); B+ - after chapter 10/until chapter 17 (?)
Byleth x Hubert B - after chapter 5; A/S - only available on CF
Byleth x Ferdinand C - until chapter 11; B - until chapter 19 (VW) or 18 (SS)
Byleth x Linhardt B - after chapter 9
Byleth x Caspar B - post-timeskip [missing info] (?)
Byleth x Petra A - until chapter 19 (VW) or 18 (SS)
Byleth x Ashe B - after chapter 4
Byleth x Lysithea C - until chapter 10(?); A - after chapter 18 (VW)
Byleth x Hilda A - after chapter 16 (AM/VW/SS)
Byleth x Leonie C - until chapter 9; B - after chapter 10
Byleth x Seteth C - until timeskip?; B - after chapter 11, until ch21 on VW (?)
Byleth x Flayn B - after chapter 7
Byleth x Hanneman C - after chapter 6, must be unlocked pre-timeskip (?)
Byleth x Gilbert C - after chapter 6; A - after chapter 18
Byleth x Alois B - post-timeskip (?)
Byleth x Catherine C - after chapter 5, must be unlocked pre-timeskip (?)
Byleth x Shamir C - must be obtained pre-timeskip; B - post-timeskip
Byleth x Cyril C - until chapter 11; B - after chapter 9 (?)
Byleth x Rhea C - available from chapters 5 through 9; B - chapters 6 through 9; A - chapters 11 through 12 (only 11 in CF); S - only available in SS
Byleth x Yuri A - after chapter 14 (mostly affects CF)
Byleth x Balthus C - until chapter 11; A - until chapter 19 (VW) or 18 (SS)
Byleth x Constance C - until chapter 11
Byleth x Hapi C - until chapter 11; B - after chapter 6; A - after chapter 15 (AM/VW/SS) or chapter 14 (CF)

 

Here are other non-Byleth supports

922245301_fe3hspriteedelgardts.gif.2e7ae620af18aa250185abef3aa827db.gif Crimson Flower only:

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Hubert x Hanneman B - post-timeskip(?)

Flayn A supports are unavailable in this path

*Jeritza is only available to support in this path

 

693005215_fe3hspriterhea.gif.b99f98080f7729a5bb1f387841f028ef.gif Silver Snow only:

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Edelgard and Hubert A supports are unavailable in this path

 

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Dimitri x Felix C - must be obtained pre-timeskip
Dedue* x Felix B - post-timeskip
Dedue x Shamir C - must be obtained pre-timeskip
Ingrid x Seteth A+ - only available in Azure Moon (path-exclusive ending)
Lorenz x Catherine C/B - must be obtained pre-timeskip on Azure Moon
Gilbert x Catherine C - must be obtained before chapter 16 when she returns to her family

Additional info:
*Dimitri cannot unlock supports between chapters 13 through 17
*Dimitri x Felix B support rewards a Sword of Zoltan
*Dedue only returns in chapter 17 of Azure Moon and can complete his supports if the paralogue War for the Weak (chapters 6 to 11) was completed
*Gilbert is only available to support in this path, and thus, Weathervanes of Fódlan (chapters 14-18, Annette x Gilbert C required) and Crusher are AM-only

 

37211100_fe3hspriteclaudets.gif.9bc3e835d4c8dcd15b0067d271efdc0b.gif Verdant Wind only:

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Claude x Lorenz C - must be obtained pre-timeskip

 

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Linhardt x Catherine C - after chapter 6
Caspar x Petra A - may have to be unlocked before chapter 20 in VW/chapter 19 in SS (not sure on the other paths), just before an incident involving Caspar's father (?)
Ashe x Felix B - unlocks after completing the paralogue Falling Short of Heaven, available in chapters 9 to 11
Ashe x Marianne C - must be obtained pre-timeskip
Ashe x Catherine C - unlocks after completing the paralogue Falling Short of Heaven, available in chapters 9 to 11
Annette x Ingrid C - must be obtained pre-timeskip
Annette x Hanneman A - after chapter 19 in AM
Seteth x Flayn C - after chapter 7

 

896471741_fe3hspriteyuri.gif.8d74c44d4d2f1e3cd9d6b8ff5143aa65.gif Ashen Wolves and non-Byleth characters (DLC-only):

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Ashe x Hapi C - must be obtained pre-timeskip (?); B - after chapter 4 mission

Yuri x Hapi B - after chapter 4; A - until chapter 21 (VW) or 20 (SS)
I think there are some timeskip locks on other supports aside the above but not sure which (?)

*Check if the glitch mentioned in the previous thread was fixed with an update: "On new Game Plus, if you access the holy tomb through the Amiibo Gazebo, it appears that the game cuts off some supports that can only be obtained early on (like Byleth x Dimitri C or Byleth x Rhea)"

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Byleth/Seteth C is definitely pre-timeskip.

As I'm pretty sure is Catherine.

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2 minutes ago, Dayni said:

Byleth/Seteth C is definitely pre-timeskip.

As I'm pretty sure is Catherine.

Thanks. I added them with a question mark in case there's specifics. It's unfortunate Seteth has a time lock considering he's the last to join before the timeskip, but I do recall I got his C support early by just returning his lost items and giving him answers he liked.

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13 minutes ago, Silent Mercenary said:

Thanks. I added them with a question mark in case there's specifics. It's unfortunate Seteth has a time lock considering he's the last to join before the timeskip, but I do recall I got his C support early by just returning his lost items and giving him answers he liked.

I just tried not to activate it before the timeskip in SS because I wanted the motivation boost.

Like a moron.

Dittto for Catherine and (maybe? Definitely.) Shamir. I'll have to check that file. (On checking, yes her C support is pre-timeskip)

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14 minutes ago, Dayni said:

I just tried not to activate it before the timeskip in SS because I wanted the motivation boost.

Like a moron.

Dittto for Catherine and (maybe? Definitely.) Shamir. I'll have to check that file. (On checking, yes her C support is pre-timeskip)

Edit: Added Byleth x Shamir C to pre-timeskip too. I had the B one for post-timeskip only.

Also, I wonder if the Seteth/Catherine may have to do with it being Silver Snow, although the supports are generic enough. I'll try to pay attention when I play CF.

5 minutes ago, Shadow Mir said:

Byleth/Hanneman C is also pre-timeskip.

Thanks, added it. I wonder if it's pre-chapter 11.

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Caspar's father died after the Empire was defeated,

as was revealed by Dorothea and Caspar in their Monastery dialogues respectively, which may be the cause of Caspar x Petra A support lock since it revolves around him. 

In my play through of Silver Snow, Byleth x Hilda A support was not available to unlock right after time-skip like most units, but I don't remember exactly after which chapter it was unlocked. From memory, I'd say it was already unlocked by Chapter 18. I'm guessing maybe it was unlocked after Chapter 16 and may have something to do with Lorenz?

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6 hours ago, DriftingWaterBottle said:
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Caspar's father died after the Empire was defeated,

as was revealed by Dorothea and Caspar in their Monastery dialogues respectively, which may be the cause of Caspar x Petra A support lock since it revolves around him. 

In my play through of Silver Snow, Byleth x Hilda A support was not available to unlock right after time-skip like most units, but I don't remember exactly after which chapter it was unlocked. From memory, I'd say it was already unlocked by Chapter 18. I'm guessing maybe it was unlocked after Chapter 16 and may have something to do with Lorenz?

Yeah, I mentioned it as an "incident" to not spoil too much. I'll remove that part once someone can mention specific deadlines for it on every path, although it may just be VW/SS (?).

On Byleth x Hilda, I think I remember that one being locked too somewhere. Do you recall if you did Dividing the World (her and Cyril's paralogue) after the timeskip? Also thanks, I added it to the list.

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15 hours ago, Silent Mercenary said:

On Byleth x Hilda, I think I remember that one being locked too somewhere. Do you recall if you did Dividing the World (her and Cyril's paralogue) after the timeskip? Also thanks, I added it to the list.

I did the Hilda/Cyril paralogue before the timeskip. 

Edit: I found this site just now : https://fedatamine.com/en-us/supports/ . It's datamined, and you can check the unlock/lock condition for each support chain. For Byleth x Hilda A support, it's indeed listed as after Chapter "The Rose-Colored River" in SS/AM/VW. 

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10 hours ago, DriftingWaterBottle said:

I did the Hilda/Cyril paralogue before the timeskip. 

Edit: I found this site just now : https://fedatamine.com/en-us/supports/ . It's datamined, and you can check the unlock/lock condition for each support chain. For Byleth x Hilda A support, it's indeed listed as after Chapter "The Rose-Colored River" in SS/AM/VW. 

Oh, thanks a lot. I will be updating the list to adjust to what I can find. However, there are some claimed timelocks that I'm not finding (or people had confused) like claims that Ashe/Hapi C have a deadline and not just a starting line for Ashe/Hapi B after chapter 4. If around an hour after posting this, there are some missing, anyone should feel free to reply and tell me any I missed.

Edit: Byleth supports should be done. Will work on adjusting the other ones in a few hours. There's a lot more supports that I imagined or was aware of, and I even think there are certain end locks missing from the page. This will take a while.

 

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Doing a NG+ Golden Deer run, and got Byleth and Claude's B support at the start of Chapter 4, so it's not locked until after 9. Only thing I'm not sure of is if I had enough support in ch3 and it was locked till ch4, or if I got the needed support points in the end of month mission.

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