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... taking a hit for Seiros and falling in the opening cutscene?

 Rhea’s C support mentions he did as a mercenary traveling with the Knights of Seiros.  Rhea would omit certain details...

 What do you think?  Possible?  Is there reason why that’s definitely not him?

 Rhea goes on to fight Nemesis, but could she have come back to aid him after stabby-stabby Nemesis?

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Jeralt lasted longer than he would have otherwise due to the blood tranfusion, but I don't think he was around back then. It'd be cool but I want to say no. And I don't remember seeing that in the opening cutscene.

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Right at the beginning takes a hit for Rhea, falls and goes:  “Lady Seiros...”.  Rhea’s focused on Nemesis.

 He’s supposed to be very young, the voice could match.  It’s probably a stretch... but maybe!

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24 minutes ago, Rioma said:

Right at the beginning takes a hit for Rhea, falls and goes:  “Lady Seiros...”.  Rhea’s focused on Nemesis.

 He’s supposed to be very young, the voice could match.  It’s probably a stretch... but maybe!

I'll have to rewatch it sometime but I don't remember this at all.

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Probably not, because Jeralt was from the Kingdom if I recall correctly and that didn't exist yet back then.

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I feel like if it was him, they would've made that detail a little bit more obvious.

19 minutes ago, Crysta said:

Probably not, because Jeralt was from the Kingdom if I recall correctly and that didn't exist yet back then.

Also this. The game made it sound like Jeralt was around 100 years ago IIRC and that battle took place well before that.

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Jeralt did mention about ancient great battles in the opening chapter, but most likely he's talking about War of Eagle and Lion rather than Nemesis War. I think he more likely below 300 years old, but there is no definitive evidence in the game about Jeralt's true age.

Overall, we simply don't know enough about him, besides his true age, other important questions like

- Was Jeralt Reus Eisner even his real name, or just another alter ego like Rhea to Seiros?

- How did he assume knight commander for over 100 years without being exposed? He certainly has to meet more outsider than Rhea did. Did he faked his death often just like Rhea?

- Was he the only one of his kind? Are there others like him holding major crest of Seiros? If he's the one and only, why did Rhea pick him among all who fought for her over 1000 years?

- How much he knows about secret of Rhea? How much he knows about the "plan"?  I don't believe that he never noticed his wife Sitir's unique appearance and pointy ears sharing with Rhea. Flyan also mentioned green hair and eyes are unique among Nabatean, making the connection even more obvious.

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1 hour ago, Timlugia said:

- Was he the only one of his kind? Are there others like him holding major crest of Seiros? If he's the one and only, why did Rhea pick him among all who fought for her over 1000 years?

I’m not entirely sure if you’re asking why he has the crest he does but, 

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iirc, he had the major crest of Seiros because he took a very serious injury protecting Rhea and in order to save his life she gave him a blood transfusion. Also no, he’s not the only one, as we find it out in Silver Snow’s final map receiving her blood is something like a ritual for people high up in the church.

 

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16 hours ago, Sooks1016 said:

I’m not entirely sure if you’re asking why he has the crest he does but, 

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iirc, he had the major crest of Seiros because he took a very serious injury protecting Rhea and in order to save his life she gave him a blood transfusion. Also no, he’s not the only one, as we find it out in Silver Snow’s final map receiving her blood is something like a ritual for people high up in the church.

 

Oh, I understand well the "transfusion story", so that wasn't my question.

My question is if Jeralt is the only human with Major Crest, and if so, why Rhea only favored him over numerous humans that served her in the ages (like the guy op mentioned)

 

We could also call into the question if the story was even the truth, considering Rhea is probably the best sword fighter in all Fodlan history, did she really need saving from some random bandits to begin with? Maybe even this story was heavily alter from the actual event, especially this was part of C support before Rhea and Byleth trusted each other. Byleth also never confirm the story with Jeralt. (Jeralt did admit he received blood from Rhea to Alois when he was drunk)

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Blood transfusion seems to be a solid method for conferring crests, if Yuri and that one village is any indication. The Major Crest of Seiros could have very well been pretty common, if not the most common Major Crest.

Of course, it doesn't say that anywhere in the game, but sometimes the most simple answer is the one most likely to be correct.

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On 8/27/2020 at 6:09 PM, Rioma said:

... taking a hit for Seiros and falling in the opening cutscene?

 Rhea’s C support mentions he did as a mercenary traveling with the Knights of Seiros.  Rhea would omit certain details...

 What do you think?  Possible?  Is there reason why that’s definitely not him?

 Rhea goes on to fight Nemesis, but could she have come back to aid him after stabby-stabby Nemesis?

You realize that opening was a hundreds of years before Jeralt's birth, right?

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On 9/1/2020 at 8:48 AM, Perkilator said:

You realize that opening was a hundreds of years before Jeralt's birth, right?

Are you sure?  If you can definitely find evidence anywhere of his age, birthdate, or other reason why that is DEFINITELY not Jeralt please share.  It would be very valuable.

 Cause so far his background is very blurry, perhaps intentionally, and because of that ambiguity is that I suggest that COULD be him.  I can’t prove it... but I can’t disprove it either.  The story seems to match... but that’s it.

 There’s a feeling that Jeralt may be hundreds of years old but not into thousands.  A feeling, not a fact.

A feeling because a man who had lived for thousands of years would probably act differently... maybe, or maybe not...  Does Rhea act like you imagine a thousand plus person should act?  Not to me...  but who knows?

If Jeralt was that ancient maybe Seteth and his daughter would have known him?  Maybe?  Where they there?  Could Jeralt have left before like he did more recently?

 I’m not sure it’s possible to definitely say THAT guy IS or IS NOT... but it’s fun and interesting that he could be.

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It’s a good point.  That could probably prove he wasn’t.  Gotta confirm that he was a knight of the kingdom BEFORE he was hired to escort Rhea when he took the hit.

 Can you point out the conversation Rhea mentions he was a former knight?  Does it definitely put him as a knight of kingdom before the escort?

edit:  According to the C support, Jeralt was in a mercenary band when he got hired, and took the hit.... hrmmm. 

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Probably not. Jeralt is said to have an expanded lifespawn but nothing suggest he's pushing a thousand years old. That he does not seem to know Seteth implies he certainly wasn't around during the fight against Nemesis. 

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Rhea claims that Jeralt was a soldier of the Kingdom in the event at the end of Chapter 9: https://fedatamine.com/en-us/scenarios/108 , if Rhea/Byleth C support was not reached previously. Although this does contradict with Rhea's claim in her C support that Jeralt "belonged to" a "band of mercenaries" when they "fought alongside the Knights of Seiros" (https://fedatamine.com/en-us/supports/Byleth/Rhea/C).

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Jeralt being a mercenary doesn't preclude him fighting for Faerghus. But either way, he only gets a long lifespan after having fought and been injured in Faerghus. Faerghus was established long after Nemesis, so Jeralt can't be as old as that. 

Also, although Rhea took the name of Seiros pre-Nemesis, I don't believe she set up the Church of Seiros (and therefore the Knights of Seiros) until after fighting Nemesis. So if Jeralt was injured fighting with the Knights, that injury necessarily would have come after Nemesis' defeat. 

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14 minutes ago, DriftingWaterBottle said:

Rhea claims that Jeralt was a soldier of the Kingdom in the event at the end of Chapter 9: https://fedatamine.com/en-us/scenarios/108 , if Rhea/Byleth C support was not reached previously. Although this does contradict with Rhea's claim in her C support that Jeralt "belonged to" a "band of mercenaries" when they "fought alongside the Knights of Seiros" (https://fedatamine.com/en-us/supports/Byleth/Rhea/C).

This is really good.  I think that nails it.  I THINK...

On one side she said “soldier of the Kingdom”, and on the C support she called him mercenary.  It’s plausible for soldiers to be hired as mercenaries.  I don’t think knights could sell themselves as mercenaries.

 Now... this thread being a nitpicking thread exploring a farfetched stretch of an idea, I’ll admit I’m like 99% convinced it’s not him...

 Because she said KINGDOM... which kingdom?  Faerghus??  Another ancient kingdom?

98% convinced...  Rhea is a liar!  Known to bend, omit, misguide the truth.

97% convinced...  I want him to be that soldier to giggle every time I see it! 😝 

So... 3% chance it’s him.

 How many times have you had to reset on a 3%??

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This is another case of "the most simple answer is the most likely to be true" and in this case it's "the rando soldier in the opening cutscene is not Jeralt".

Why would he work for another, unspecified kingdom?

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It's pretty definite. I can't be 100% certain that you're not a cat with a keyboard - doesn't mean it's logical for me to seriously entertain that idea.

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On 8/29/2020 at 6:33 AM, Timlugia said:

Jeralt did mention about ancient great battles in the opening chapter, but most likely he's talking about War of Eagle and Lion rather than Nemesis War. I think he more likely below 300 years old, but there is no definitive evidence in the game about Jeralt's true age.

Overall, we simply don't know enough about him, besides his true age, other important questions like

- Was Jeralt Reus Eisner even his real name, or just another alter ego like Rhea to Seiros?

- How did he assume knight commander for over 100 years without being exposed? He certainly has to meet more outsider than Rhea did. Did he faked his death often just like Rhea?

- Was he the only one of his kind? Are there others like him holding major crest of Seiros? If he's the one and only, why did Rhea pick him among all who fought for her over 1000 years?

- How much he knows about secret of Rhea? How much he knows about the "plan"?  I don't believe that he never noticed his wife Sitir's unique appearance and pointy ears sharing with Rhea. Flyan also mentioned green hair and eyes are unique among Nabatean, making the connection even more obvious.

Well there's all the cardinals that turn into white beasts in Silver Snows final battle for point 3.

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On 9/6/2020 at 9:15 AM, Jotari said:

Well there's all the cardinals that turn into white beasts in Silver Snows final battle for point 3.

They all carry minor crest though, Jeralt is the only human with major Serios crest in the current time, making him very unique.

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