Oricorio Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 For your gender, you are only allowed to select "Male", "Female", and "Undisclosed", which is heavily limiting to people like me who have identities that fall outside of those categories. There should at least be a "Nonbinary" option to pick as your gender, as well perhaps some of the more specific identities (such as "Agender", "Genderfluid", etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Holy Elf Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 I definitely second this. My preferred option would be for "Other" which would lead to a field where people could enter whatever label they feel most comfortable with, though I'm not sure how easy that is from a design standpoint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair General Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Dark Holy Elf said: I definitely second this. My preferred option would be for "Other" which would lead to a field where people could enter whatever label they feel most comfortable with, though I'm not sure how easy that is from a design standpoint. Watch how @Integrity will complain on the amount of work it'll take to expend a few menus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoncat Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Undisclosed works though? When I see it I assume the person is non binary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dragoncat said: Undisclosed works though? When I see it I assume the person is non binary. You shouldn't. Undisclosed means they're just not saying. Nonbinary is a disclosure. Edited October 16, 2020 by Florete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoncat Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Florete said: You shouldn't. Undisclosed means they're just not saying. Nonbinary is a disclosure. Huh, I guess I don't understand why someone would want to not say. But okay. I mean I guess either that or they haven't done their profile yet. Edited October 16, 2020 by Dragoncat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Armchair General said: Watch how @Integrity will complain on the amount of work it'll take to expend a few menus. i've literally never done this, what the fuck? EDIT: anyway, this random attack aside, i might as well say something productive in the thread i'm the straightest, cisest, whitest gay dude in the world, so most of the major gender identity dialogue goes just a little bit over my head. one thing i've been thinking loosely about for a while is stripping the gender field out on the admin side and replacing it with a pronouns field like, the way i see it from my limited perspective, the point of the gender field is to inform people how to refer to you in the third person; when the defaults were created back in 200x, the general dialogue was that he/him - she/her covered a sufficient enough amount of people to just say it was good enough. it wasn't really then, and it still isn't particularly. in that case, why not just axe the gender field and put in a pronouns field instead? i can't mix fixed options you pick from a list with type-your-own options as far as i'm aware, so it would still have to have some limitation, but i think it could be more inclusive to more people with fewer options on the list happy to entertain thoughts Edited October 16, 2020 by Integrity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) i'm gonna break the rules and doublepost because if you edit a ping in it doesn't actually ping the user and i do want to specifically hear op's thoughts on my proposal @leetic Edited October 16, 2020 by Integrity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Holy Elf Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Pronouns field sounds good to me. It brings the site in line with what people are already used to doing with twitter bios, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oricorio Posted October 17, 2020 Author Share Posted October 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Integrity said: i'm gonna break the rules and doublepost because if you edit a ping in it doesn't actually ping the user and i do want to specifically hear op's thoughts on my proposal @leetic That solution sounds fine to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 awesome i'm gonna push it through with an announcement for further discussion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzy Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 19 hours ago, Dragoncat said: Huh, I guess I don't understand why someone would want to not say. But okay. I mean I guess either that or they haven't done their profile yet. Some people know perfectly well what their IRL gender is, but just don't want to be identified as female/male/etc online by strangers. Or, depending on how involved it is, if you're trans, it could be considered outing yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Moonlight- Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 As someone with a not fully on the "gender-binary" gender, I second this. I don't know how great a fill in gender would be since others that aren't could take advantage of it, I think fill-in pronoun and more gender options would cover it. like even with he/him, she/her, they/them, I think fill in would better especially with neopronouns since not everyone is totally informed on them. On 10/16/2020 at 1:56 PM, Dragoncat said: Huh, I guess I don't understand why someone would want to not say. But okay. I mean I guess either that or they haven't done their profile yet. some people just don't feel like sharing it? (this isn't me being sarcastic btw, some people just don't feel like it's needed to be known.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marche Raotzer Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 sorry but this whole multiple gender thing is bullshit there is and always will be male and female so people need to stop being stupid even when going for a sex change you will still be male or female it's just twitter morons wanting more attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) usually i'd just quietly ghost that and laugh but since it was 3 weeks ago and i forgot that this thread existed after i opened the other i'll be explicit and post instead: shut the fuck up lmao EDIT: this is sf's official stance btw Edited November 21, 2020 by Integrity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulWeaver Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Question why do I still not have a "Sire" option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 that's a title, not a pronoun, dear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanty Pete's 1st Mate Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 On 11/21/2020 at 10:53 AM, Integrity said: usually i'd just quietly ghost that and laugh but since it was 3 weeks ago and i forgot that this thread existed after i opened the other i'll be explicit and post instead: shut the fuck up lmao EDIT: this is sf's official stance btw Goddamn, let me salute thee, good sir, for making this change! Or at least writing it on a piece of paper, setting it atop Lehran's medallion in the middle of Serenes Forest, and watching to see what color the flame changes. I assume that's how anything happens around here, at least. Anyway, just updated my own profile accordingly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 i am very confused at your vehemence but you're very welcome good thir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marche Raotzer Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I still stand by my statement I have no issue with gay's or lesbians I actually have gay and lesbian friends.but i disagree with this gender spectrum nonsense plus even science has debunked this so why carry it on? Warn me all you like but im not changing my statment. This video explains it in more detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eltosian Kadath Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Hirokaski said: I still stand by my statement I have no issue with gay's or lesbians I actually have gay and lesbian friends.but i disagree with this gender spectrum nonsense plus even science has debunked this so why carry it on? Warn me all you like but im not changing my statment. This video explains it in more detail. Small piece of advice, when you are claiming science has debunked something, instead of listening to a video by a pop scientist, try reading some peer reviewed papers instead. Those give you a far better idea of what has, and has not been debunked by science, and the scientific peers that review them reduce the chance that they are blatantly lying to you for their own gains. Even in that video which "debunks claims of a gender spectrum", they admit that most papers on the topic include the idea of the gender spectrum, which is a clear sign that the current consensus in the scientific community is that the gender spectrum exists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 7 hours ago, Hirokaski said: I still stand by my statement I have no issue with gay's or lesbians I actually have gay and lesbian friends.but i disagree with this gender spectrum nonsense plus even science has debunked this so why carry it on? Warn me all you like but im not changing my statment. This video explains it in more detail. am i supposed to be impressed by a podcast hosting a person who has made it a crusade to rail against the status quo of gender science railing against the status quo of gender science? lmao you're welcome to participate in my hugbox forum but take that shit right out of this thread and stuff it bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzy Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 This is why I never told people I was trans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 17 hours ago, Hirokaski said: I still stand by my statement I have no issue with gay's or lesbians I actually have gay and lesbian friends.but i disagree with this gender spectrum nonsense plus even science has debunked this so why carry it on? Warn me all you like but im not changing my statment. It sounds like your attitude towards the gender spectrum and ours aren't going to agree. I'll leave it up to you whether or not this is such a huge issue that you pack up and leave. But note that I will NOT be particularly gentle if your attitude winds up hurting others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marche Raotzer Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 be like that but my opinion still stands and there are ONLY two genders male and female no neutral your born a male your a male transition to a femal your a female simple science really this whole thing is just because some jumped up sjw thiught lets give people more thigns to be bithcy about at this was born. imnot homophobic like i said i have gay frinds and they are hilarious so are my lesbian friends but this stupidity has to stop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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