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I mean, I'm straight, but I still never understood it. For one, it ought to be weird as hell if you happen to be living with your parents (which I've seen happen, at least on TV), and then...what's the point, really? Is it supposed to inspire you, or something? The other day I saw a video on Youtube on a guy showing a workout, and he also had posters of half-naked women. If I really wanted to inspired, I put a picture of the girl I love, not random chicks.

And if you're horny, there's other means for that, and we all know- granted, it's 2020, and these things aren't nearly as common as they used to be...but it's likely still a thing in stuff like mechanic garages and the like.

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So, what's the point? Is it just to show off how "manly" they are? Horny men are suddenly more masculine?

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3 minutes ago, Etrurian emperor said:

Why do they have posters of half naked woman? Because they like looking at them. 

Right, because me, a straight guy, doesn't like looking at half naked woman.

Guess I should put them up in my room to show everyone else how I like them...

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Good question. I mean they're not rubbing one out to those posters, they're just there.

As a straight woman, I only like looking at naked guys when I'm in that mood, I don't want posters of them.

Then again, a lot of classical art has nudity in it and idk what's up with that either.

Oh, maybe since he's doing a workout, the naked girl is triggering something in his subconscious? Nature is acting up and in his subconscious, he's a primitive ape/neanderthal/caveman and he has to impress that girl/show her how strong he is? That's my best guess. It's actually a neat strategy!

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4 minutes ago, Dragoncat said:

in his subconscious, he's a primitive ape/neanderthal/caveman and he has to impress that girl/show her how strong he is?

Bold of you to assume that men have to think that they're cavemen to act like buffoons.

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2 minutes ago, Benice said:

Bold of you to assume that men have to think that they're cavemen to act like buffoons.

Lol yeah. 

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3 hours ago, the actual real soul said:

Right, because me, a straight guy doesn't like looking at half naked woman.

I find it hard to believe that any straight dude would ever say that.

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1 hour ago, Dragoncat said:

Oh, maybe since he's doing a workout, the naked girl is triggering something in his subconscious? Nature is acting up and in his subconscious, he's a primitive ape/neanderthal/caveman and he has to impress that girl/show her how strong he is? That's my best guess. It's actually a neat strategy!

so you put this kind of jokingly, but this is part of the motivation for a lot of guys. similar to how some dudes watched dragon ball and got fit because goku inspired them, some guys put up pictures like that and go 'can't get that, wanna be able to get that, gonna can get that' and pump harder with a goal in mind. there's maybe a much deeper conversation to be had about women as prizes and all that, but it is what it is in this case.

 

otherwise, 'inspiration' is the general name of the game. look at pinups in the wars, particularly on fighters - a reminder of what the boys were fighting for, and that generalizes to why some dudes use them as inspiration to exercise. hell, most of the reason i'm motivated to get back to exercising is for my wife. oughta put up a poster of her.

 

obviously this isn't a catch-all. there's guys who do it out of a sense of fragile masculinity, for sure, and then there's guys who just do it because they like looking at boobies.on the same token, why did i have a poster of arnold in my bedroom for years?

 

2 minutes ago, NinjaMonkey said:

I find it hard to believe that any straight dude would ever say that.

ninjamonkey, you dumb fuck, that was sarcasm

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6 minutes ago, Integrity said:

so you put this kind of jokingly, but this is part of the motivation for a lot of guys. similar to how some dudes watched dragon ball and got fit because goku inspired them, some guys put up pictures like that and go 'can't get that, wanna be able to get that, gonna can get that' and pump harder with a goal in mind. there's maybe a much deeper conversation to be had about women as prizes and all that, but it is what it is in this case.

 

otherwise, 'inspiration' is the general name of the game. look at pinups in the wars, particularly on fighters - a reminder of what the boys were fighting for, and that generalizes to why some dudes use them as inspiration to exercise. hell, most of the reason i'm motivated to get back to exercising is for my wife. oughta put up a poster of her.

 

obviously this isn't a catch-all. there's guys who do it out of a sense of fragile masculinity, for sure, and then there's guys who just do it because they like looking at boobies.on the same token, why did i have a poster of arnold in my bedroom for years?

 

I was actually completely serious. While a naked girl would motivate them because they want that, Goku would motivate them as like a rival.

Nature is a tenacious beast and I find this sort of thing interesting.

Maybe I should use pictures of naked dudes to motivate me to get fit...but I'm not sure if it would work as well for the female brain.

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Why does anyone put up a poster of anything on their wall? Don't see any specific reason for this case to be different.

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1 hour ago, Dragoncat said:

Then again, a lot of classical art has nudity in it and idk what's up with that either.

It could be lust, never leave out consideration of the male gaze. The overabundance of samey female nudes in art owes a lot to men's desire.

That said, there is also appreciation of the nude human body for nonsexual reasons. We are born naked, it is our natural state, it's nothing shameful, so why not celebrate it? IRL nudists aren't all sex-crazed (and many would probably not arouse you), nor are the uncontacted tribes of the Amazon who wear most a skirt or loincloth. The ESPN body issue intentionally blocks out genitals to emphasize that it is nonsexual, focused instead on the feats of athleticism which the human body is responsible for achieving.

Of course, classical nudes (found in Greece and Rome, and also India) are almost always ideals, they're muscular (well, the men are, that was unattractive in women), vigorous, healthy, young, tall, they are humans in peak physical condition, which we often fail to be IRL because of aging, illness and injury, overeating, or genetics. For artists interested in painting and sculpting as realistically as possible (or realistic but within those idealized forms), realism demands you portray human musculature accurately, even when your subjects clothed, so drawing some sketches of nude forms helps.

For the more austere order of monks (but not nuns) in Jainism, the monks are always nude, as are the Jain saints in their depictions. Hindu sadhus (ascetics/holy men), tend to be naked or right next to it too. Their nudity doesn't indicate carnality. No clothing means if they're outside when it rains, they get wet, if it's cold, they're cold, their bare feet leave them open to the agony of stepping on a pointy rock or LEGO brick. Clothes are a comfort and a possession, these monks deny all comforts in life and they deny material goods, their detachment from the desirables of this world and willingness to bear with its ills emphasizes their dedication to purely the spiritual.

Mind, that nonsexual and sexual appreciations of the nude form can vary based on who is looking at it. Take Michelangelo's The Last Judgment:

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Although all it was intended to depict was all of humanity gathered, each to be judged worthy of eternal paradise or eternal damnation, even its day in the 1530s, The Last Judgment was controversial. Not the least because it was waaaaay too much nudity for the back wall of the Sistine Chapel, Jesus Christ Michelangelo what are you, a pagan? Why nudity when it ain't lustful or super-idealized here? Michelangelo really liked nudes, not unusual for the Renaissance (which was rather okay with nudity because the Reformation had yet to ruin the monopoly of the Roman Catholic Church on Christianity in much of Europe, Catholicism got prudish again when that heretic Martin Luther started stealing souls). And you might be able to call this a case of "heroic nudity", where the intent of the nudity was to add drama and weight to the overall painting.

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10 minutes ago, Dragoncat said:

Maybe I should use pictures of naked dudes to motivate me to get fit...but I'm not sure if it would work as well for the female brain.

works for some, doesn't work for others, same as dudes - obviously op doesn't get it, just as many women wouldn't get it, but that's not to say that there aren't women who work out explicitly to be desirable in the same vein

 

it's all individual stuff yeah

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20 minutes ago, Integrity said:

ninjamonkey, you dumb fuck, that was sarcasm

Have you ever considered how difficult it is to detect sarcasm through text-only means? It's not apparently obvious that he is being sarcastic. I always end my sarcastic statements with /sarcasm to show I'm being sarcastic.

 

Oh, and I have Aspergers, so it's nice to see that the staff here are so accomodating with regards to my learning disability /sarcasm

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6 minutes ago, Jotari said:

Why does anyone put up a poster of anything on their wall? Don't see any specific reason for this case to be different.

^This basically.

Back when I actually put posters on my walls (mine are totally blank now; got sick of so much visual noise), they were just of things I liked, and I put them up because it was like, "Hey, this is my space, this is who I am, these are some things I like."

I didn't have any half-naked women up there, but I can see how someone might under similar logic.

Heck, why limit it to posters? Why does anyone do any sort of decorating?

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53 minutes ago, NinjaMonkey said:

Have you ever considered how difficult it is to detect sarcasm through text-only means? It's not apparently obvious that he is being sarcastic. I always end my sarcastic statements with /sarcasm to show I'm being sarcastic.

 

Oh, and I have Aspergers, so it's nice to see that the staff here are so accomodating with regards to my learning disability /sarcasm

I have Aspergers too, I get it.

@Interdimensional Observer I remember reading something about how the Ancient Greeks associated big penises with brutish ugly criminals, so their statues had small ones to say "Hey, this is a good citizen and a good man!"

Also, in the bottom right corner of the image you posted, there is a man with a snake coiled around him biting his package. That man has the face of one of the pope's advisors who barged in while Michelangelo was painting and yelled at him about the nudies. So he painted him in hell with a snake biting his balls. Of course the pope heard of this, and he just said "as Pope, my domain is Heaven and Earth, but I have no authority in Hell. Sorry about that."

Michelangelo hated his job and it was glorious. 

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I'm a straight guy and I don't understand it either. Then again, I also have autism, so a lot of things don't make sense to me that make sense to other people because my thought process is different. 

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5 hours ago, the actual real soul said:

Right, because me, a straight guy, doesn't like looking at half naked woman.

Guess I should put them up in my room to show everyone else how I like them...

 

7 minutes ago, vanguard333 said:

I'm a straight guy and I don't understand it either. Then again, I also have autism, so a lot of things don't make sense to me that make sense to other people because my thought process is different. 

I mean it's very evidently just something not to your tastes. My question is why get all bent out of shape over it? There's a hundred things you could focus on instead and I guarantee there's some habit you have in your room that would befuddle other people too. It's their private space so let them do whatever they want idk.

In public places like mechanic garages (or the maintenance shaft in Die Hard) sometimes it's done as a power trip, act of rebellion against authorities, etc.

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9 minutes ago, vanguard333 said:

I'm a straight guy and I don't understand it either. Then again, I also have autism, so a lot of things don't make sense to me that make sense to other people because my thought process is different. 

Everyone's thought process is different. That's not exactly unique to autism. I'm sure there's plenty of people with autism that have posters of people of various stages of undress on their walls.

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1 hour ago, Jotari said:

of people of various stages of undress on their walls.

this is perhaps the most fascinating way I've ever seen someone talk about nudity. Legit, I like it. That's all I have to give to this topic lel

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I don't know about you guys, but there are few things more motivating than an erection. I assume it has to do with that.

...! What if you could use that to your advantage in training up other skills...? Pornographic Spanish lessons? I gotta get to a patent office right now. See ya

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1 hour ago, Jotari said:

I'm sure there's plenty of people with autism that have posters of people of various stages of undress on their walls.

I mean I don't have nudie posters, but I do enjoy nudie fanart...just not on my wall.

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Good to see Soul being back!

As for the answer because they have a passion for them.

I mean it's the same as looking for fanart of fictional characters in swimsuit or dessous aside these are targetted people.

For the posters it's mostly random women.

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I like looking at them, they are nice and easy on the eyes. Nudity is form of natural beauty that is unfortunately shunned, heavily oppressed, and unfairly demonized.

It is no different from following models on social media, having anime figurines, or collecting waifus in Heroes.

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