Bjarne Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 So I'm free of the trainee units. Innes.@ImHereForDrafts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImHereForDrafts Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 Umm.. Knoll and Gilliam I guess? @Bjarne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjarne Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Dozla time @L3xandr3 @ImHereForDrafts Can you update the list of remaining units? It's getting kind of hard to keep track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3xandr3 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) Neimi. 26 minutes ago, Bjarne said: Dozla time @L3xandr3 @ImHereForDrafts Can you update the list of remaining units? It's getting kind of hard to keep track. I was keeping track. Marisa is the only one left, so @Hello72207, you get her. Edit: @ImHereForDrafts, you didn't say anything about the Lagdou Ruins. I assume they are not permitted? Edit2: Never mind. Edited November 28, 2020 by L3xandr3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjarne Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Here's a visual of everyone's characters: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3xandr3 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) I assume we're ready to go? Edit: @ImHereForDrafts, Hard mode as in Difficult? And there is no restriction on Eirika or Ephraim routes? Haven't ever done this before, so I just want to be clear before I begin. Edited November 28, 2020 by L3xandr3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImHereForDrafts Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share Posted November 28, 2020 Yeah we are ready to go, gl hf. @L3xandr3, hard mode yes and you can go either route. More rules are in my first post. Everyone, feel free to ask if you have any questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjarne Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) Is it iron man or are we allowed to reset, @ImHereForDrafts? And how are you guys recording your progress? Text, images or videos? Edit: Also, would it be against any rules to let Colm steal stuff as an NPC and then recruiting him, so you can get the items even if you haven't drafted him? It's not really that big of a deal since the items in that chapter aren't anything big, but still. Edited November 28, 2020 by Bjarne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImHereForDrafts Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share Posted November 28, 2020 Resets are allowed and save states too. It's up to you how much you want to abuse them, though. I'm simply recording my turn counts and I will be updating them here couple chapters at a time. After I finish the game, I will take a picture of the total turn count. It's up to you how you want to record your play-through although I personally think that everyone should at least screenshot the final turn count from the epilogue. NPCs can do whatever they do. So Colm can steal items before you recruit him freely. You may also rescue-drop Colm (or any other NPC) to the boss and let him have a stab at him (although this is obviously very bad strategy). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjarne Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Prologue: 2 turns, nothing to say Chapter 1: 9 turns, Eirika just camping in the fort killing everything Chapter 2: 7 turns. I love Vanessa and Moulder. Had to reset after overextending with Vanessa. Garcia stole my kill on the boss. Chapter 3: 14 turns. Vanessa has gotten the first strength level up in the entire game. Congratulations. Chapter 4: 10 turns. Eirika finally leveled strength. Currently stuck at chapter 5. Only having 2 combat units who have leved strength a total of 2 times in 18 level ups turns out to be pretty difficult. At least they know how to level skill, speed, luck and resistance. This run in a nutshell: I did record my playthrough in case I want to post some highlights, but it takes time to render the videos so I'm not going to post them unless you guys want to see them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImHereForDrafts Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share Posted November 28, 2020 Damn that 5 str Eirika is the stuff of nightmares. At least you can get the armorslayer from ch5 for the boss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello72207 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 here's a full draft list, showing in order what units we picked, and what units are free/banned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3xandr3 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Prolog - 3 Turns (A Crit on the Boss would've helped) Chapter 1 - 8 Turns (Eirika Solo, ignored the 3 Refo) Chapter 2 - 7 Turns (NPC Garcia was a champ) Chapter 3 - 17 Turns (Ignored the central south area and the Chests, but tried to get some kills to Colm & Neimi) Chapter 4 - 14 Turns (Eirika & Neimi went right, Colm down. Lute got the Boss kill) Chapter 5 - 15 Turns (Ooof, talk about tense. Ran the gauntlet on this one, every hit mattered. Joshua was a godsend for saving the Villages. Got the Guiding Ring) Total: 64 as of C5 So, for my first LTC Draft, I'd say I'm doing decent so far. 4 hours ago, Bjarne said: Currently stuck at chapter 5. Only having 2 combat units who have leved strength a total of 2 times in 18 level ups turns out to be pretty difficult. At least they know how to level skill, speed, luck and resistance. Eirika's chance of getting 1 Str in 9 Lvs: .671% Vanessa's chance of getting 1 Str in 9 Lvs: 1.115% Yikes! That's worse than what my Neimi is doing. ~5 Levels = 0 Str. So 5.032% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello72207 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 5 hours ago, Bjarne said: this might be reset worthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjarne Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hello72207 said: this might be reset worthy. RNGsus has a plan for all of us, mysterious as his ways might be. I'll keep going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3xandr3 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 So @ImHereForDrafts, what of Orson? You've not said anything about him. Can we use him for 5x, or is he banned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjarne Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 @L3xandr3, it says in the rules that Orson is free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3xandr3 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Ah, oops, my bad. I didn't copy down the Drafting part of the rules... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3xandr3 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Ignore the double post, plz. Up to the route split. Chapter 5x - 15 Turns Chapter 6 - 6 Turns Chapter 7 - 11 Turns Chapter 8 - 14 Turns Total: 110 as of C8 I'm not certain which route to go. Eirika is a higher lv and is out of Rapier, but (increadably) Ephraim has gotten somewhat RNG-screwed. Lv 14 Ephraim Vs average: -3.5 Str, +3.05 Skl, -2.05 Spd, -.5 Luk, -.15 Def, +.75 Res Lv17 Eirika Vs average: -1.4 Str, -1.6 Skl, +.4 Spd, +4.4 Luk, + 2.2 Def, +.8 Res I'm leaning towards Eirika's route, but I'm open to suggestions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjarne Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) Chapter 5 - 15 turns. Ended up having to distract both archers with Eirika while Vanessa flew up and destroyed the brigands. With the dracoshield, she was able to tank it. She also got a series of great level ups. Play of the Game: Vanessa triple crit followed by a near-perfect level-up (speed was capped). Chapter 5x - 19 turns. Ephraim levels up strength, speed and defense a bajillion times. Lost a few turns because I forgot to open the chests and back-tracked with Orson. Also accidentally pressed rescue instead of wait. Play of the Game - This mage coming out of nowhere to stealth kill Forde near the end. Chapter 6 - 7 turns. Play of the Game: Natasha the tank. Chapter 7 - 7 turns. Having a flier proved pretty useful for this one. Play of the Game: These two enemies adding a turn to my turn count. Chapter 8 - 12 turns. Nothing really happened here other than Vanessa reaching max level. Total turn count: 102 (I might have missed a few turns when counting, so it could possibly be a few turns higher) Eirika and Vanessa are still below average in every stat except resistance, but at least the gap is less noticeable now. Too bad Vanessa won't promote for the next 4 chapters and Eirika won't promote for the next 7 chapters. Also went Eirika route even though Ephraim has broken stats since I need Innes and Saleh. Edited November 29, 2020 by Bjarne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjarne Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 8 hours ago, L3xandr3 said: II'm not certain which route to go. Eirika is a higher lv and is out of Rapier, but (increadably) Ephraim has gotten somewhat RNG-screwed. Lv 14 Ephraim Vs average: -3.5 Str, +3.05 Skl, -2.05 Spd, -.5 Luk, -.15 Def, +.75 Res Lv17 Eirika Vs average: -1.4 Str, -1.6 Skl, +.4 Spd, +4.4 Luk, + 2.2 Def, +.8 Res I'm leaning towards Eirika's route, but I'm open to suggestions. You'd get Cormag 3 chapters earlier in Ephraim, but he has better bases in Eirika. Ephraim might be pretty below average, but an average Ephraim is better than an average Eirika anyway. Ephraim's maps are harder than Eirika's though. It's pretty even, so I'd just say go for the route that is more fun for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello72207 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 14 hours ago, L3xandr3 said: 'm leaning towards Eirika's route, but I'm open to suggestions. Eirika route is typically faster, but Cormag might make you faster in Ephraim route due to Cormag coming much later and being a turn loss in Eirika route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3xandr3 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 This will not end well. Ephraim route, here I go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello72207 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) currently at start of ch 12 Eirika route. IDK what my turn count is, but I think i'm doing as good as I can. Earlygame was a little harder without Seth, Vanessa, or Franz (seth being allowed til chapter 5 end in most drafts and Franz and Vanessa usually being draftable twice to prevent imbalance due to how much of an advantage they are), but it was still fairly good. My current team (didn't recruit Marisa lol, she's a turn loss.) curiously enough, I only rigged one or two of these str levels. The rest she got naturally. The flier that I actually get and save turns with. Still gotta figure out if it costs less turns to recruit Cormag for his Elysian whip or to get the secret shop in ch 14, seeing as the unconventional rules for this draft prevent me from using theives to get promotion items. Artur already has A staves, and I have been rigging magic levels on him. He got a goddess icon. Decided to promote Garcia with Gerik's hero crest, but it might have been better to give it to Gerik so that he could have 1-2 range or a horse.... Rigged speed levels on him. Horse. She's really frail right now, and I couldn't get the angelic robe or dracoshield in ch 9, so she's stuck this frail for now. Probably gonna promote as soon as she hits level 10. Probably should have promoted Gerik instead, we shall see, but he might benefit from a few levels. dans. that's all. my team is looking fairly solid, an earlier flier or an actual cav could have helped, but I'm doing fairly well. I'm sure the person with Franz or Vanessa will beat me because of that massive earlygame advantage, but I've won a Fe8 draft before without either so I'm fine. Edited November 30, 2020 by Hello72207 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3xandr3 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) Chapter 9 - 26 (F******CK THIS MAP. Sleep Staves, copious Refo, Ocean Seal far from the Boss that needs looting. 4 Resets! If I ever do a LTC Draft again, I'm choosing Moulder, first recruit!) Chapter 10 - 10 (Got all the loot, but didn't kill the Ranger Dude (Don't remeber his name), as the only way I could would've been a 15% Silencer proc from Colm) Total: 146 as of C8 This... this is just going to get worse. The sooner Lute gets C Staff, she's getting a Restore. It'll never leave her. Edited December 1, 2020 by L3xandr3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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