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Counting how many playable characters are in Heroes so far (we've just passed the half way point)

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So with me thinking way too much about Shadows of Valentia's small number of characters not currently in Heroes, it got me thinking about the series as a whole and how many of the playable cast have and haven't made it into the game so far. So rather than getting a good night's rest I decided to tally up every character in the series who is and isn't in the game. And here are my results.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15xCEE3dd2wjXVgzQS6mMWGya_M_tYRYMR5bcMC3qA5Q/edit?usp=sharing

For anyone who doesn't want to click the links I will mention the data here. But first the caveats.

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*Seasonals and Fallen Heroes, Brave etc are not counted. It's only units in Heroes with a title taken from the end card of their own game.
*With the exception of Eyvel, characters who appear in both Holy War and Thracia are counted as in the game regardless as to whether it's a Thracia version or Holy War version in Heroes. I doubt they plan to give us two Finns or Ceds at this time.
*Archanea and Tellius characters have all been grouped together instead of grouped by game. Because no way they're going to give us two of every Path of Radiance character.
*Binding Blade and Blazing Blade characters appearing in both games are counted separately.
*Jokes aside, Devdan and Danved are the same character, though I still hope we get both in Heroes because lance Infantry.
*Creature Campaign, Trial Maps and temporary playable characters like Orson are not counted, but DLC characters including the Spotpass Awakening characters are counted.
*Anna from Awakening is counted since her title in Heroes is the same as her Awakening Ending card, despite her really being the unplayable Apotheosis Anna.
*Valentian and Archean versions of the White Wings are counted seperate as they have commited to treating them (at present this means just Est).
*Likewise Fates and Awakening's shared trio are counted seperately.
*CYL split the Three Houses cast into Academy and War phases, I have not, if they get in the game in either design they will be counted here.
*Both genders of Avatars and Avatar Kids are counted seperately.

With that out of the way I count 609 characters across 12 different "continuities". So far in Heroes they have 315 characters in Heroes while 294 characters are still waiting to get in. This means roughly 55% of the playable cast has been included. The number of characters in the series being close to 600 means that for every 6 characters they add into the game, the number of characters in the series total added goes up by 1%. So each banner adds roughly 0.8% more of the playable cast to the game (assuming a banner has four characters who aren't villains or alts). With one regular banner each month the soonest we could see the entire playable cast in the game would be 37 months, or another three+ years. Factoring in villains and alts four years doesn't seem like an unresonable amount of time to finish off all the characters, and it would be in line with the game being out for four and a half years already and having just over half the cast. Of course the reality of things is that they've added in the more popular characters first, so as they dig deeper into the barrel of less popular characters, alts are likely to become more frequent again. Chances are another original Fire Emblem game will be released in the next four years too which will probably add 30 or 40 to the character count.

Now let's look at each game, or rather set of games, individually.

Archanea

No. Characters 83
No. In Heroes 37
No. Missing 46
% in Heroes 44.57%

 

Valentia

No. Characters 38
No. In Heroes 27
No. Missing 11
% in Heroes 71.05%

 

Holy War

No. Characters 62
No. In Heroes 25
No. Missing 37
% in Heroes 40.32%

 

Thracia

No. Characters 52
No. In Heroes 14
No. Missing 38
% in Heroes 26.92%

 

Binding Blade

No. Characters 54
No. In Heroes 24
No. Missing 30
% in Heroes 44.44%

 

Blazing Blade

No. Characters 44
No. In Heroes 27
No. Missing 17
% in Heroes 61.36%

 

Sacred Stones

No. Characters 33
No. In Heroes 19
No. Missing 14
% in Heroes 57.57%

 

Tellius

No. Characters 73
No. In Heroes 27
No. Missing 46
% in Heroes 36.98%

 

Awakening

No. Characters 51
No. In Heroes 38
No. Missing 13
% in Heroes 74.51%

 

Fates

No. Characters 71
No. In Heroes 53
No. Missing 18
% in Heroes 74.64%

 

Three Houses

No. Characters 41
No. In Heroes 23
No. Missing 18
% in Heroes 56.09%

 

Tokyo Mirage Sessions

No. Characters 7
No. In Heroes 5
No. Missing 2
% in Heroes 71.43%

 

So some unsurprising statistics.

*The game with the highest number of characters is Fates at 49.

*The game with the lowest number of characters is (lol) Tokyo Mirage Sessions at 5. But discounting that, it's Thracia at 14.

*The games with the highest number of missing characters is Archanea and Tellius tied at 46.

*The game with the lowest number of missing characters is obviously Tokyo Mirage Sessions at 2, but discounting that it's Shadows of Valentia at 11 (counting the Cipher characters which are an odd case).

*The game with the highest % of its cast is Awakening at almost 75%.

*Unsurprisingly the game with the lowest % of it's cat in the game is again Thracia with around 25%.

 

So yeah, hope you find that interesting. I intend to continue to update this document with each new banner released to keep track of the data. It is absolutely possible I made some mistakes either forgetting characters or missing that they're in Heroes or thinking they're a seasonal or something, so if you have a look at the documents or if any of the numbers don't seem correct to you, then do tell me. I did have to manually look at lists of Heroes characters and thick them off while ignoring alts, so mistakes are very possible, though this should still be reasonably accurate.

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So, what's the reason for the following characters being in red when they're all clearly in the game and not as alts?

Michalis
Shanna
Karla
Sanaki
Oliver
Kaze

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24 minutes ago, Tybrosion said:

So, what's the reason for the following characters being in red when they're all clearly in the game and not as alts?

Michalis
Shanna
Karla
Sanaki
Oliver
Kaze

Michalis I think I can safely say is because I forgot he's actually playable in New Mystery, so when I saw him on the Heroes list I was just thinking of him as a villain. I think Oliver might have had the same glaze over affect. I think Sanaki isn't there because I just noticed Bride Sanaki on the list and her default version existing slipped by me. Shanna and Karla I have no excuse for, but I'm like 98% I had Kaze marked off (maybe I planned to mark him off in advance as when I saw him on the list, but then waited until I saw him on the Heroes list and forgot that I hadn't marked him off). Thanks for error checking though, I'd amended it. That puts the number of (playable) characters in the game up another full %. Tell me if you happen to notice any more mistakes. There still might be one or two knocking about.

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So as a long IS keep getting money, FEH still has years to live.

 

Thanks for the hard work by the way!

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Good finds! Personally, I'd count the Cipher characters separately. Are they even on CYL?

Characters needed to hit 50%:

  • Archanea: 5
  • Genealogy: 6
  • Thracia: 12
  • Binding Blade: 3
  • Tellius: 10

Only Thracia and Tellius are below 40%.

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4 minutes ago, Naoshi said:

So as a long IS keep getting money, FEH still has years to live.

 

Thanks for the hard work by the way!

Well maybe. A lot of the characters in the game already are more popular than what we have already. Though on the other hand, there's probably an extra like 50 or so characters when you tally up the relevant enemies and NPCs. More if they're willing to go to the level of random pegasus boss Dithorba again.

2 minutes ago, Othin said:

Good finds! Personally, I'd count the Cipher characters separately. Are they even on CYL?

Characters needed to hit 50%:

  • Archanea: 5
  • Genealogy: 6
  • Thracia: 12
  • Binding Blade: 3
  • Tellius: 10

Only Thracia and Tellius are below 40%.

Even though it's not the lowest in %, Archanea is the furthest in terms of absolute characters needed. Which makes me think it's pass time we got a Hardin banner with Sedgar and Wolf.

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3 minutes ago, Jotari said:

Well maybe. A lot of the characters in the game already are more popular than what we have already. Though on the other hand, there's probably an extra like 50 or so characters when you tally up the relevant enemies and NPCs. More if they're willing to go to the level of random pegasus boss Dithorba again.

Even though it's not the lowest in %, Archanea is the furthest in terms of absolute characters needed. Which makes me think it's pass time we got a Hardin banner with Sedgar and Wolf.

Archanea is one of the few games that hasn't gotten a banner since CYL4, hopefully it'll get its next one soon.

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Here's my usual way (using CYL) to help determine which missing playable characters are more likely to get added:

Shadow Dragon / (New) Mystery

Spoiler

1.
   By CYL5 Result: Wolf (202nd, 453 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Nyna (4,197 votes)

2. 
   By CYL5 Result: Nyna (216th, 417 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Wolf (3,886 votes)

3. 
   By CYL5 Result: Malice (285th, 262 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Elice (3,004 votes)

4. 
   By CYL5 Result: Elice (290th, 251 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Etzel (2,103 votes)

5. 
   By CYL5 Result: Etzel (293rd, 245 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Malice (2,033 votes)

6. 
   By CYL5 Result: Matthis (343rd, 178 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Lorenz (1,757 votes)

7. 
   By CYL5 Result: Radd (345th, 174 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Vyland (1,566 votes)

8. 
   By CYL5 Result: Cecil (350th, 168 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Castor (1,347 votes)

9. 
   By CYL5 Result: Arlen (352nd, 166 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Radd (1,280 votes)

10. 
   By CYL5 Result: Castor (367th, 147 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Matthis (1,107 votes)

 

Alt Locked Characters

Xane: 266th, 298 votes 
           5,822 votes
Darros: 479th, 25 votes
               582 votes

Shadows of Valentia

Spoiler

1.
   By CYL5 Result: Kamui (257th, 325 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Est (2,155 votes)

2. 
   By CYL5 Result: Deen (292nd, 247 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Kamui (1,837 votes)

3. 
   By CYL5 Result: Atlas (298th, 237 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Atlas (1,640 votes)

4. 
   By CYL5 Result: Mycen (300th, 235 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Deen (1,627 votes)

5. 
   By CYL5 Result: Jesse (359th, 158 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Mycen (1,275 votes)

6. 
   By CYL5 Result: Est (362nd, 154 votes) 
   By Total CYL Votes: Jesse (782 votes)

7. 
   By CYL5 Result: Nomah (482nd, 22 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Nomah (284 votes)

 

The Cipher quartet (Emma, Randal, Shade, Yuzu) are still not on the CYL ballot as of CYL5.

Genealogy of the Holy War

Spoiler

1.
   By CYL5 Result: Tine (151st, 625 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Arthur (3,185 votes)

2. 
   By CYL5 Result: Arthur (172nd, 566 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Tine (3,145 votes)

3. 
   By CYL5 Result: Patty (182nd, 527 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Patty (3,017 votes)

4. 
   By CYL5 Result: Scathach (225th, 394 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Scathach (1,924 votes)

5. 
   By CYL5 Result: Oifey (305th, 225 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Dew (1,430 votes)

6. 
   By CYL5 Result: Dew (316th, 208 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Chulainn (1,354 votes)

7. 
   By CYL5 Result: Chulainn (328th, 195 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Febail (1,035 votes)

8. 
   By CYL5 Result: Febail (345th, 174 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Oifey (1,034 votes)

9. 
   By CYL5 Result: Naoise (351st, 167 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Naoise (1,013 votes)

10. 
   By CYL5 Result: Lana (356th, 161 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Lana (892 votes)

 

Alt Locked Character

Brigid: 158th, 603 votes
             3,349 votes

Thracia 776

Spoiler

1.
   By CYL5 Result: Galzus (263rd, 302 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Linoan (1,416 votes)

2. 
   By CYL5 Result: Linoan (275th, 279 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Galzus (1,309 votes)

3. 
   By CYL5 Result: Lifis (335th, 186 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Marty (1,133 votes)

4. 
   By CYL5 Result: Machyua (351st, 167 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Machyua (1,036 votes)

5. 
   By CYL5 Result: Dagdar (357th, 160 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Lara (960 votes)

6. 
   By CYL5 Result: Salem (374th, 140 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Carrion (847 votes)

7. 
   By CYL5 Result: Misha (386th, 126 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Lifis (751 votes)

8. 
   By CYL5 Result: Amalda (387th, 123 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Glade (748 votes)

9. 
   By CYL5 Result: Lara (388th, 122 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Misha (747 votes)

10. 
   By CYL5 Result: Homer (390th, 120 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Karin (648 votes)

The Binding Blade

Spoiler

1.
   By CYL5 Result: Gonzales (181st, 529 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Lot (4,884 votes)

2. 
   By CYL5 Result: Cath (195th, 471 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Gonzales (3,339 votes)

3. 
   By CYL5 Result: Hugh (247th, 348 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Hugh (2,089 votes)

4. 
   By CYL5 Result: Niime (291st, 249 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Cath (1,408 votes)

5. 
   By CYL5 Result: Zeiss (321st, 203 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Noah (1,306 votes)

6. 
   By CYL5 Result: Dorothy and Karel (tie for 323rd, 200 votes each)
   By Total CYL Votes: Karel (1,305 votes)

7. 
   By CYL5 Result: -
   By Total CYL Votes: Niime (1,211 votes)

8. 
   By CYL5 Result: Noah (331st, 190 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Dorothy (1,136 votes)

9. 
   By CYL5 Result: Elffin (347th, 171 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Zeiss (1,084 votes)

10. 
   By CYL5 Result: Lance (363rd, 153 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Lance (1,044 votes)

 

Alt Locked Characters

Wolt: 186th, 496 votes
           3,563 votes
Saul: 364th, 152 votes
          999 votes
Juno: 377th, 136 votes
           560 votes
Geese: 455th, 51 votes
             998 votes
Zelot: 486th, 18 votes
           185 votes

The Blazing Blade

Spoiler

1.
   By CYL5 Result: Athos (104th, 907 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Sain (6,773 votes)

2. 
   By CYL5 Result: Sain (113th, 816 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Athos (6,486 votes)

3. 
   By CYL5 Result: Guy (147th, 646 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Guy (6,017 votes)

4. 
   By CYL5 Result: Kent (211th, 427 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Kent (3,096 votes)

5. 
   By CYL5 Result: Wil (235th, 372 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Wil (2,785 votes)

6. 
   By CYL5 Result: Oswin (296th, 240 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Oswin (2,306 votes)

7. 
   By CYL5 Result: Marcus (329th, 194 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Dart (2,065 votes)

8. 
   By CYL5 Result: Dart (334th, 187 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Merlinus (1,902 votes)

9. 
   By CYL5 Result: Isadora (339th, 182 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Marcus (1,725 votes)

10. 
   By CYL5 Result: Lowen (355th, 163 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Harken (1,381 votes)

The Sacred Stones

Spoiler

It's only a top 5 here because there's just seven other characters left to add besides the following five:

1.
   By CYL5 Result: Gilliam (174th, 554 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Gilliam (4,155 votes)

2. 
   By CYL5 Result: Vanessa (204th, 443 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Colm (4,136 votes)

3. 
   By CYL5 Result: Artur (210th, 428 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Neimi (3,444 votes)

4. 
   By CYL5 Result: Colm (216th, 417 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Artur (3,188 votes)

5. 
   By CYL5 Result: Neimi (227th, 390 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Vanessa (3,096 votes)

 

Alt Locked Characters

Saleh: 296th, 240 votes
            1,680 votes
Dozla: 460th, 45 votes
            1,143 votes

Path of Radiance, Radiant Dawn

Spoiler

1.
   By CYL5 Result: Boyd (95th, 1,042 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Volke (6,920 votes)

2. 
   By CYL5 Result: Volke (98th, 978 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Lucia (6,444 votes)

3. 
   By CYL5 Result: Pelleas (99th, 948 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Boyd (6,002 votes)

4. 
   By CYL5 Result: Lucia (107th, 861 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Astrid (5,258 votes)

5. 
   By CYL5 Result: Stefan (121st, 765 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Stefan (5,181 votes)

6. 
   By CYL5 Result: Tormod (138th, 673 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Edward (5,175 votes)

7. 
   By CYL5 Result: Edward (139th, 670 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Marcia (4,180 votes)

8. 
   By CYL5 Result: Marcia (144th, 649 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Pelleas (4,065 votes)

9. 
   By CYL5 Result: Astrid (162nd, 595 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Volug (3,968 votes)

10. 
   By CYL5 Result: Volug (183rd, 507 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Tormod (3,865 votes)

 

Alt Locked Characters

Rhys: 315th, 210 votes
           2,440 votes
Zihark: 332nd, 189 votes
             4,274 votes
Rolf: 366th, 148 votes
         2,138 votes
Tanith: 394th, 116 votes
             1,452 votes
Ena: 440th, 66 votes
         1,328 votes
Rafiel: 474th, 30 votes
            1,281 votes

Awakening

Spoiler

1.
   By CYL5 Result: Miriel (136th, 691 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Priam (5,920 votes)

2. 
   By CYL5 Result: Priam (157th, 611 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Miriel (5,063 votes)

3. 
   By CYL5 Result: Gregor (186th, 496 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Kellam (4,963 votes)

4. 
   By CYL5 Result: Ricken (219th, 408 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Gregor (4,425 votes)

5. 
   By CYL5 Result: Vaike (228th, 388 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Flavia (4,260 votes)

6. 
   By CYL5 Result: Flavia (237th, 369 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Ricken (4,152 votes)

7. 
   By CYL5 Result: Kellam (254th, 328 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Vaike (3,413 votes)

8. 
   By CYL5 Result: Laurent (269th, 289 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Basilio (3,248 votes)

9. 
   By CYL5 Result: Basilio (273rd, 282 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Laurent (1,938 votes)

10. 
   By CYL5 Result: Yen'fay (370th, 144 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Yen'fay (1,415 votes)

 

Alt Locked Characters

Severa: 42nd, 2,612 votes
              19,197 votes
Inigo: 128th, 738 votes
            10,292 votes
Noire: 242nd, 361 votes
            6,997 votes

Fates

Spoiler

1.
   By CYL5 Result: Nyx (88th, 1,123 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Anna (12,202 votes)

2. 
   By CYL5 Result: Dwyer (110th, 847 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Nyx (9,994 votes)

3. 
   By CYL5 Result: Orochi (143rd, 654 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Caeldori (7,296 votes)

4. 
   By CYL5 Result: Scarlet (146th, 647 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Dwyer (7,091 votes)

5. 
   By CYL5 Result: Mozu (148th, 642 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Orochi (6,471 votes)

6. 
   By CYL5 Result: Mitama (179th, 535 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Scarlet (6,304 votes)

7. 
   By CYL5 Result: Shura (203rd, 444 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Mozu (5,903 votes)

8. 
   By CYL5 Result: Benny (221st, 402 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Reina (4,157 votes)

9. 
   By CYL5 Result: Reina (225th, 394 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Shura (3,820 votes)

10. 
   By CYL5 Result: Kiragi (234th, 374 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Mitama (3,571 votes)

 

Queen of Alt Hell Herself

Charlotte: 72nd, 1,438 votes
                   14,274 votes

Three Houses

Spoiler

1.
   By CYL5 Result: Yuri (10th, 9,852 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Ashe (15,920 votes)

2. 
   By CYL5 Result: Ashe (15th, 6,632 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Yuri (9,852 votes)

3. 
   By CYL5 Result: Constance (31st, 3,522 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Caspar (5,522 votes)

4. 
   By CYL5 Result: Hapi (38th, 3,034 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Leonie (4,402 votes)

5. 
   By CYL5 Result: Caspar (43rd, 2,535 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Constance (3,522 votes)

6. 
   By CYL5 Result: Leonie (55th, 1,899 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Hapi (3,034 votes)

7. 
   By CYL5 Result: Balthus (86th, 1,147 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Manuela (2,074 votes)

8. 
   By CYL5 Result: Manuela (100th, 941 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Ignatz (1,846 votes)

9. 
   By CYL5 Result: Ignatz (108th, 851 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Jeritza (1,647 votes)

10. 
   By CYL5 Result: Jeritza (133rd, 712 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Anna (1,594 votes)

 

Alt Locked Characters

Felix: 9th, 10,786 votes
          23,251 votes
Sylvain: 20th, 4,970 votes
               14,102 votes
Dorothea: 23rd, 4,694 votes
                   19,906 votes
Lorenz: 71st, 1,467 votes
               4,135 votes
Raphael: 191st, 483 votes
                 1,598 votes

Tokyo Mirage Sessions spoilers: it's Touma then Yashiro by both metrics

Spoiler

1.
   By CYL5 Result: Touma (78th, 1,286 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Touma (3,046 votes)

2. 
   By CYL5 Result: Yashiro (81st, 1,272 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Yashiro (2,500 votes)

 

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1 hour ago, FailWood said:

Personally hoping for a Dawn Brigade Banner.  How hasn't that happened yet?

That is one that feels well overdue too. And Tellius arguably needs more characters than any other games with them having both one of the lowest % represented and the highest never of missing characters. And even breaking them up into two games, the Radiant Dawn exclusive characters are largely absent.

36 minutes ago, Tybrosion said:

Here's my usual way (using CYL) to help determine which missing playable characters are more likely to get added:

Shadow Dragon / (New) Mystery

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1.
   By CYL5 Result: Wolf (202nd, 453 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Nyna (4,197 votes)

2. 
   By CYL5 Result: Nyna (216th, 417 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Wolf (3,886 votes)

3. 
   By CYL5 Result: Malice (285th, 262 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Elice (3,004 votes)

4. 
   By CYL5 Result: Elice (290th, 251 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Etzel (2,103 votes)

5. 
   By CYL5 Result: Etzel (293rd, 245 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Malice (2,033 votes)

6. 
   By CYL5 Result: Matthis (343rd, 178 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Lorenz (1,757 votes)

7. 
   By CYL5 Result: Radd (345th, 174 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Vyland (1,566 votes)

8. 
   By CYL5 Result: Cecil (350th, 168 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Castor (1,347 votes)

9. 
   By CYL5 Result: Arlen (352nd, 166 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Radd (1,280 votes)

10. 
   By CYL5 Result: Castor (367th, 147 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Matthis (1,107 votes)

 

Alt Locked Characters

Xane: 266th, 298 votes 
           5,822 votes
Darros: 479th, 25 votes
               582 votes

Shadows of Valentia

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1.
   By CYL5 Result: Kamui (257th, 325 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Est (2,155 votes)

2. 
   By CYL5 Result: Deen (292nd, 247 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Kamui (1,837 votes)

3. 
   By CYL5 Result: Atlas (298th, 237 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Atlas (1,640 votes)

4. 
   By CYL5 Result: Mycen (300th, 235 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Deen (1,627 votes)

5. 
   By CYL5 Result: Jesse (359th, 158 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Mycen (1,275 votes)

6. 
   By CYL5 Result: Est (362nd, 154 votes) 
   By Total CYL Votes: Jesse (782 votes)

7. 
   By CYL5 Result: Nomah (482nd, 22 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Nomah (284 votes)

 

The Cipher quartet (Emma, Randal, Shade, Yuzu) are still not on the CYL ballot as of CYL5.

Genealogy of the Holy War

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1.
   By CYL5 Result: Tine (151st, 625 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Arthur (3,185 votes)

2. 
   By CYL5 Result: Arthur (172nd, 566 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Tine (3,145 votes)

3. 
   By CYL5 Result: Patty (182nd, 527 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Patty (3,017 votes)

4. 
   By CYL5 Result: Scathach (225th, 394 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Scathach (1,924 votes)

5. 
   By CYL5 Result: Oifey (305th, 225 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Dew (1,430 votes)

6. 
   By CYL5 Result: Dew (316th, 208 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Chulainn (1,354 votes)

7. 
   By CYL5 Result: Chulainn (328th, 195 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Febail (1,035 votes)

8. 
   By CYL5 Result: Febail (345th, 174 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Oifey (1,034 votes)

9. 
   By CYL5 Result: Naoise (351st, 167 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Naoise (1,013 votes)

10. 
   By CYL5 Result: Lana (356th, 161 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Lana (892 votes)

 

Alt Locked Character

Brigid: 158th, 603 votes
             3,349 votes

Thracia 776

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1.
   By CYL5 Result: Galzus (263rd, 302 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Linoan (1,416 votes)

2. 
   By CYL5 Result: Linoan (275th, 279 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Galzus (1,309 votes)

3. 
   By CYL5 Result: Lifis (335th, 186 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Marty (1,133 votes)

4. 
   By CYL5 Result: Machyua (351st, 167 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Machyua (1,036 votes)

5. 
   By CYL5 Result: Dagdar (357th, 160 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Lara (960 votes)

6. 
   By CYL5 Result: Salem (374th, 140 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Carrion (847 votes)

7. 
   By CYL5 Result: Misha (386th, 126 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Lifis (751 votes)

8. 
   By CYL5 Result: Amalda (387th, 123 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Glade (748 votes)

9. 
   By CYL5 Result: Lara (388th, 122 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Misha (747 votes)

10. 
   By CYL5 Result: Homer (390th, 120 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Karin (648 votes)

The Binding Blade

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1.
   By CYL5 Result: Gonzales (181st, 529 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Lot (4,884 votes)

2. 
   By CYL5 Result: Cath (195th, 471 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Gonzales (3,339 votes)

3. 
   By CYL5 Result: Hugh (247th, 348 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Hugh (2,089 votes)

4. 
   By CYL5 Result: Niime (291st, 249 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Cath (1,408 votes)

5. 
   By CYL5 Result: Zeiss (321st, 203 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Noah (1,306 votes)

6. 
   By CYL5 Result: Dorothy and Karel (tie for 323rd, 200 votes each)
   By Total CYL Votes: Karel (1,305 votes)

7. 
   By CYL5 Result: -
   By Total CYL Votes: Niime (1,211 votes)

8. 
   By CYL5 Result: Noah (331st, 190 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Dorothy (1,136 votes)

9. 
   By CYL5 Result: Elffin (347th, 171 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Zeiss (1,084 votes)

10. 
   By CYL5 Result: Lance (363rd, 153 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Lance (1,044 votes)

 

Alt Locked Characters

Wolt: 186th, 496 votes
           3,563 votes
Saul: 364th, 152 votes
          999 votes
Juno: 377th, 136 votes
           560 votes
Geese: 455th, 51 votes
             998 votes
Zelot: 486th, 18 votes
           185 votes

The Blazing Blade

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1.
   By CYL5 Result: Athos (104th, 907 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Sain (6,773 votes)

2. 
   By CYL5 Result: Sain (113th, 816 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Athos (6,486 votes)

3. 
   By CYL5 Result: Guy (147th, 646 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Guy (6,017 votes)

4. 
   By CYL5 Result: Kent (211th, 427 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Kent (3,096 votes)

5. 
   By CYL5 Result: Wil (235th, 372 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Wil (2,785 votes)

6. 
   By CYL5 Result: Oswin (296th, 240 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Oswin (2,306 votes)

7. 
   By CYL5 Result: Marcus (329th, 194 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Dart (2,065 votes)

8. 
   By CYL5 Result: Dart (334th, 187 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Merlinus (1,902 votes)

9. 
   By CYL5 Result: Isadora (339th, 182 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Marcus (1,725 votes)

10. 
   By CYL5 Result: Lowen (355th, 163 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Harken (1,381 votes)

The Sacred Stones

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It's only a top 5 here because there's just seven other characters left to add besides the following five:

1.
   By CYL5 Result: Gilliam (174th, 554 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Gilliam (4,155 votes)

2. 
   By CYL5 Result: Vanessa (204th, 443 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Colm (4,136 votes)

3. 
   By CYL5 Result: Artur (210th, 428 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Neimi (3,444 votes)

4. 
   By CYL5 Result: Colm (216th, 417 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Artur (3,188 votes)

5. 
   By CYL5 Result: Neimi (227th, 390 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Vanessa (3,096 votes)

 

Alt Locked Characters

Saleh: 296th, 240 votes
            1,680 votes
Dozla: 460th, 45 votes
            1,143 votes

Path of Radiance, Radiant Dawn

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1.
   By CYL5 Result: Boyd (95th, 1,042 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Volke (6,920 votes)

2. 
   By CYL5 Result: Volke (98th, 978 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Lucia (6,444 votes)

3. 
   By CYL5 Result: Pelleas (99th, 948 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Boyd (6,002 votes)

4. 
   By CYL5 Result: Lucia (107th, 861 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Astrid (5,258 votes)

5. 
   By CYL5 Result: Stefan (121st, 765 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Stefan (5,181 votes)

6. 
   By CYL5 Result: Tormod (138th, 673 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Edward (5,175 votes)

7. 
   By CYL5 Result: Edward (139th, 670 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Marcia (4,180 votes)

8. 
   By CYL5 Result: Marcia (144th, 649 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Pelleas (4,065 votes)

9. 
   By CYL5 Result: Astrid (162nd, 595 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Volug (3,968 votes)

10. 
   By CYL5 Result: Volug (183rd, 507 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Tormod (3,865 votes)

 

Alt Locked Characters

Rhys: 315th, 210 votes
           2,440 votes
Zihark: 332nd, 189 votes
             4,274 votes
Rolf: 366th, 148 votes
         2,138 votes
Tanith: 394th, 116 votes
             1,452 votes
Ena: 440th, 66 votes
         1,328 votes
Rafiel: 474th, 30 votes
            1,281 votes

Awakening

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1.
   By CYL5 Result: Miriel (136th, 691 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Priam (5,920 votes)

2. 
   By CYL5 Result: Priam (157th, 611 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Miriel (5,063 votes)

3. 
   By CYL5 Result: Gregor (186th, 496 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Kellam (4,963 votes)

4. 
   By CYL5 Result: Ricken (219th, 408 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Gregor (4,425 votes)

5. 
   By CYL5 Result: Vaike (228th, 388 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Flavia (4,260 votes)

6. 
   By CYL5 Result: Flavia (237th, 369 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Ricken (4,152 votes)

7. 
   By CYL5 Result: Kellam (254th, 328 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Vaike (3,413 votes)

8. 
   By CYL5 Result: Laurent (269th, 289 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Basilio (3,248 votes)

9. 
   By CYL5 Result: Basilio (273rd, 282 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Laurent (1,938 votes)

10. 
   By CYL5 Result: Yen'fay (370th, 144 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Yen'fay (1,415 votes)

 

Alt Locked Characters

Severa: 42nd, 2,612 votes
              19,197 votes
Inigo: 128th, 738 votes
            10,292 votes
Noire: 242nd, 361 votes
            6,997 votes

Fates

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1.
   By CYL5 Result: Nyx (88th, 1,123 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Anna (12,202 votes)

2. 
   By CYL5 Result: Dwyer (110th, 847 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Nyx (9,994 votes)

3. 
   By CYL5 Result: Orochi (143rd, 654 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Caeldori (7,296 votes)

4. 
   By CYL5 Result: Scarlet (146th, 647 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Dwyer (7,091 votes)

5. 
   By CYL5 Result: Mozu (148th, 642 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Orochi (6,471 votes)

6. 
   By CYL5 Result: Mitama (179th, 535 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Scarlet (6,304 votes)

7. 
   By CYL5 Result: Shura (203rd, 444 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Mozu (5,903 votes)

8. 
   By CYL5 Result: Benny (221st, 402 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Reina (4,157 votes)

9. 
   By CYL5 Result: Reina (225th, 394 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Shura (3,820 votes)

10. 
   By CYL5 Result: Kiragi (234th, 374 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Mitama (3,571 votes)

 

Queen of Alt Hell Herself

Charlotte: 72nd, 1,438 votes
                   14,274 votes

Three Houses

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1.
   By CYL5 Result: Yuri (10th, 9,852 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Ashe (15,920 votes)

2. 
   By CYL5 Result: Ashe (15th, 6,632 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Yuri (9,852 votes)

3. 
   By CYL5 Result: Constance (31st, 3,522 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Caspar (5,522 votes)

4. 
   By CYL5 Result: Hapi (38th, 3,034 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Leonie (4,402 votes)

5. 
   By CYL5 Result: Caspar (43rd, 2,535 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Constance (3,522 votes)

6. 
   By CYL5 Result: Leonie (55th, 1,899 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Hapi (3,034 votes)

7. 
   By CYL5 Result: Balthus (86th, 1,147 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Manuela (2,074 votes)

8. 
   By CYL5 Result: Manuela (100th, 941 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Ignatz (1,846 votes)

9. 
   By CYL5 Result: Ignatz (108th, 851 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Jeritza (1,647 votes)

10. 
   By CYL5 Result: Jeritza (133rd, 712 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Anna (1,594 votes)

 

Alt Locked Characters

Felix: 9th, 10,786 votes
          23,251 votes
Sylvain: 20th, 4,970 votes
               14,102 votes
Dorothea: 23rd, 4,694 votes
                   19,906 votes
Lorenz: 71st, 1,467 votes
               4,135 votes
Raphael: 191st, 483 votes
                 1,598 votes

Tokyo Mirage Sessions spoilers: it's Touma then Yashiro by both metrics

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   By CYL5 Result: Touma (78th, 1,286 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Touma (3,046 votes)

2. 
   By CYL5 Result: Yashiro (81st, 1,272 votes)
   By Total CYL Votes: Yashiro (2,500 votes)

 

Definitely useful information, but I think as far as predictors go you need to think more in terms of groups than characters. Banners are mono game but within the mono game they usually have some kind of grouping together. I doubt we'll see a banner with Wolf, Nyna, Malice and Elice. The characters are just sort of random. Granted in some games they're low enough in the cast or the game lacks defined groups (or they want varied weapons) that banners are quite random, but when given a chance they do try to have some kind of cohesion. So I think Wolf's popularity means the likes of Roysh and Sedgar will probably get in before Malice (who will probably come with Dice). Meanwhile some other characters like Athos are practically guaranteed to come as a Legendary/Mythic rather than on a banner. Since Guinevere was a legendary I could actually see them making Nyna one too, while I'm using Archanea as an example. Either that or they could bring her with the likes of Dolph, Macellean and Boah, who are some of the least popular characters in the series and will need a popular banner seller to assist them if they ever want to get in.

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I think characters in Alt Heck should be counted as being in the game, or at least their cells should be yellow instead of red or something. Also, Dorothea is listed as being in even though we don't have her "real" version, unless having two seasonals equals one full character.

2 minutes ago, Jotari said:

Since Guinevere was a legendary I could actually see them making Nyna one too, while I'm using Archanea as an example.

Actually Guinivere was the star of the Princess of Bern banner; maybe you mixed her up with Lilina?

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While a lot of the latest banners have some sort of "theme" to them, not all of them necessarily do. The most recent Fodlan banner, the latest Thracia banner, the Fates banner with Midori, and the PoR banner with Shinon don't seem to have any rhyme or reason beyond "who's popular" with the sole exception of Gatrie tagging along with Shinon. I can't even say for sure if the Thracia characters were strictly picked by popularity either, and all of the Fodlan banners minus the one with the lords and the church seem to be random as to who is on it too.

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42 minutes ago, Sunwoo said:

I can't even say for sure if the Thracia characters were strictly picked by popularity either, and all of the Fodlan banners minus the one with the lords and the church seem to be random as to who is on it too.

Thracia's top ten in CYL4 looked like this:

1. Reinhardt: 37th
2. Leif: 90th
3. Finn: 100th
4. Ced: 194th
5. Mareeta: 228th
6. Sara: 246th
7. Asbel: 290th
8. Ronan: 299th
9. Galzus: 338th
10. Olwen: 341st

So yeah, the last Thracia banner mostly followed popularity. Miranda was 13th (Linoan and Carrion were 11th and 12th respectively) while Veld (dead last among the Thracia cast and only placed higher than six characters in general) got in because of his final boss status.

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1 hour ago, Tybrosion said:

Thracia's top ten in CYL4 looked like this:

1. Reinhardt: 37th
2. Leif: 90th
3. Finn: 100th
4. Ced: 194th
5. Mareeta: 228th
6. Sara: 246th
7. Asbel: 290th
8. Ronan: 299th
9. Galzus: 338th
10. Olwen: 341st

So yeah, the last Thracia banner mostly followed popularity. Miranda was 13th (Linoan and Carrion were 11th and 12th respectively) while Veld (dead last among the Thracia cast and only placed higher than six characters in general) got in because of his final boss status.

Oh wow, did not realize that Ronan was so high compared to the rest of the Thracia cast. All right, guess that one also followed popularity for the most part ... but don't think the characters really had any other in-canon relationships otherwise.

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17 hours ago, Jotari said:

*Seasonals and Fallen Heroes, Brave etc are not counted. It's only units in Heroes with a title taken from the end card of their own game.

I don't know about that, couldn't you might give out the Alt only characters such as Charlotte, Hardin, Wolt, etc. to use different colors that isn't red (like maybe Blue or Yellow Color for Alt. only characters that are technically in Fire Emblem Heroes)? I think that will might help for avoid confusion for some non-Fire Emblem Heroes players or newbie Fire Emblem reading the list who was missing and who was semi-appeared. I also think of maybe some characters that appeared in Duo Heroes that aren't playable in Heroes yet such as Elice, Rhea, etc. should get different colors that isn't Red as well (like maybe Green Color for Duo Partner only).

Also, I think you should add Finn (older) and Finn (young) in the Genealogy of the Holy War section since Finn was technically the only father unit to fight in both Sigurd's and Seliph's battles along with adding the time skip forms in Three Houses section for Students, Ashen Wolves, & Cyril since they do change appearances in 5 years in Three Houses like Edelgard (young) and Edelgard (older) which both of them appeared in Heroes while Bernadette (young) appeared in Heroes while Bernadette (older) hasn't for example?

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5 hours ago, Lightchao42 said:

I think characters in Alt Heck should be counted as being in the game, or at least their cells should be yellow instead of red or something. Also, Dorothea is listed as being in even though we don't have her "real" version, unless having two seasonals equals one full character.

Actually Guinivere was the star of the Princess of Bern banner; maybe you mixed her up with Lilina?

Oh yeah you're right. No I wasn't getting her confused with Liliana, just plain misremembering. I guess because she was pretty hyped when she got in.

 

1 hour ago, King Marth 64 said:

I don't know about that, couldn't you might give out the Alt only characters such as Charlotte, Hardin, Wolt, etc. to use different colors that isn't red (like maybe Blue or Yellow Color for Alt. only characters that are technically in Fire Emblem Heroes)? I think that will might help for avoid confusion for some non-Fire Emblem Heroes players or newbie Fire Emblem reading the list who was missing and who was semi-appeared. I also think of maybe some characters that appeared in Duo Heroes that aren't playable in Heroes yet such as Elice, Rhea, etc. should get different colors that isn't Red as well (like maybe Green Color for Duo Partner only).

Also, I think you should add Finn (older) and Finn (young) in the Genealogy of the Holy War section since Finn was technically the only father unit to fight in both Sigurd's and Seliph's battles along with adding the time skip forms in Three Houses section for Students, Ashen Wolves, & Cyril since they do change appearances in 5 years in Three Houses like Edelgard (young) and Edelgard (older) which both of them appeared in Heroes while Bernadette (young) appeared in Heroes while Bernadette (older) hasn't for example?

It's about who is likely to be added to the game. If it was presented as seasonals and alts being the main representation of the character, eg Fallen Maretta was considered the only Maretta needed to represent her as a character, then I'd count such units, but they've made it clear (by releasing actual Maretta among many other characters) that they do intend to release every playable character under a "default" variation (well as long as the game continues to run, chances are they won't make it to release literally every character).

They might release the variations of Finn, though I'm a bit doubtful. Jugdral doesn't receive much love as it is and even the Finn we have already is considered Thracia Finn (so post time skip) but looks pretty young.

Time skip three houses characters are something I do expect them to do, especially with CYL splitting them that way, but as I mention in the OP I haven't counted them that way as it's more of interest to see which characters are missing than a guess of who precisely is going to be added (which does sound like it contradicts the first half of this comment XD but it makes sense in my mind, I'm not about to guess what future legendaries and mythics and stuff they're about to put in which would be I the same vein).

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9 hours ago, Jotari said:

They might release the variations of Finn, though I'm a bit doubtful. Jugdral doesn't receive much love as it is and even the Finn we have already is considered Thracia Finn (so post time skip) but looks pretty young.

Technically, Finn in Sigurd's timeline was a teenager at the time and he was around Lachesis's age as well. (I think Finn was one year younger than Ethlyn as well)

I do like to see younger Finn appear in Heroes one day.

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2 hours ago, King Marth 64 said:

Technically, Finn in Sigurd's timeline was a teenager at the time and he was around Lachesis's age as well. (I think Finn was one year younger than Ethlyn as well)

I do like to see younger Finn appear in Heroes one day.

Well, maybe. But until that happens I think I'll leave it as it is. Finn is a uniquely possible case because he has a different design between the two games (I do fully expect them to give us a second Alvis some day as a comparison), but I really doubt they'll give use two Diarmuids because he's playable in both games. There are quite a few more relevant characters waiting there beyond a second Finn. Having younger Finn as a seasonal could be a good compromise though.

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Fates has now over taken Awakening as the game with the highest number of heroes by percentage (though they're neck in neck). It was already the highest represented game in absolute numbers, having more than 10 characters over any other entry, so I'm a bit baffled they gave us a Fates banner now instead of an Archanean one which we haven't got in ages.s

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7 hours ago, Jotari said:

Fates has now over taken Awakening as the game with the highest number of heroes by percentage (though they're neck in neck). It was already the highest represented game in absolute numbers, having more than 10 characters over any other entry, so I'm a bit baffled they gave us a Fates banner now instead of an Archanean one which we haven't got in ages.s

The last Archanean banner was a year ago (July 2020), while the previous Fates banner was in April 2020.

Archanea isn’t exactly starving like Valentia was until last month. 

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3 hours ago, Tybrosion said:

The last Archanean banner was a year ago (July 2020), while the previous Fates banner was in April 2020.

Archanea isn’t exactly starving like Valentia was until last month. 

Valentia wasn't starving. It has almost its entire cast in the game. Sure Archanea has quite a few characters in the game already, but it also has a disproportionately large roster and thus is also missing more than most other series. Fates on the contrary also has a large roster, but also has the the majority of its characters in the game. Or maybe to put it another way, Fates had more characters in the game even before the most recent addition than the number of playable characters in Shadows of Valentia in total, and also more than the total number of characters in Sacred Stones, Blazing Blade and Three Houses. Meanwhile Archanea is still missing more characters than the total number of characters in those games.

 

Of course Thracia is still the most starved of characters, but that's hardly surprising.

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25 minutes ago, Jotari said:

Valentia wasn't starving. It has almost its entire cast in the game. Sure Archanea has quite a few characters in the game already, but it also has a disproportionately large roster and thus is also missing more than most other series. Fates on the contrary also has a large roster, but also has the the majority of its characters in the game. Or maybe to put it another way, Fates had more characters in the game even before the most recent addition than the number of characters in Shadows of Valentia total (and also more than the total number of characters in Sacred Stones, Blazing Blade and Three Houses).

 

Of course Thracia is still the most starved of characters, but that's hardly surprising.

Honestly Thracia is so behind that they should be the only game to get two slots on the rotation for a while, and also appear on a lot of seasonals. This is in a perfect world.

In our world, I'm just happy they haven't abandoned the game entirely, and with how Limited Battles work they are guaranteed to keep getting SOMETHING every BST generation, for the sake of fairness.

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1 hour ago, Jotari said:

Valentia wasn't starving. It has almost its entire cast in the game. Sure Archanea has quite a few characters in the game already, but it also has a disproportionately large roster and thus is also missing more than most other series. Fates on the contrary also has a large roster, but also has the the majority of its characters in the game. Or maybe to put it another way, Fates had more characters in the game even before the most recent addition than the number of playable characters in Shadows of Valentia in total, and also more than the total number of characters in Sacred Stones, Blazing Blade and Three Houses. Meanwhile Archanea is still missing more characters than the total number of characters in those games.

I was referring to the length of time between Valentia's banners (October 2019 - June 2021), not their percentage of characters. 

As for Archanea, yes it is missing a lot of characters. And unfortunately for Archanea, a good chunk of those characters will likely never make it into Heroes because they're either blatant filler characters with little to no characterization or are just too unpopular even if they do have some elements going for them. In my opinion, the following characters are the only ones left that absolutely should be added: 

Elice, Nyna, good guy Hardin, Medeus, Gotoh

There are a couple others that are either borderline important enough and/or popular enough (like Lorenz, Midia, Wolf, Malice and Etzel) but everyone else after that are varying degrees of expendable.

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