Question about the characters and their kids.

[Boji]

So after deciding to replay the game I've started raising supports and pairing most of my units, and I've heard that they can have children, my question is - when do they appear? I've heard something about a 1sf generation and a 2nd where the children appear, so when does that happen? 

[Ertrick36]

I can't say too much without spoiling things.  If you want the quick and dirty, you start seeing them after you've completed chapter 13, but only if your avatar, or any of the female characters you've recruited before chapter 13, have gotten married (otherwise beyond chapter 13 you'll see a paralogue pop up as soon as you marry off one of these potential parents).  Also, if you don't want marriage plans to be interfered with, make sure Chrom is married before you start chapter 11 (or that every possible option for him is married off by that point) - the game will force him to marry whichever unmarried he has the highest support level with, or in the absence of available options he'll be married to an unnamed NPC who gives Chrom's child mediocre stats and absolutely no class options.

If your frame of reference is Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War, it isn't really much like that.  It's more like how it's handled in Fire Emblem: Fates, where the 2nd generation of units are just units that join the 1st generation's war, albeit the 2nd gen in Awakening have a much better reason for actually joining their parents' war than the 2nd gen in Fates.

[Jotari]

You get the first child at the end of Chapter 13, no matter what happens. After you've finished Chapter 13, all other child units are available to be obtained at any time provided you have reached an S support with the unit needed to create them (most of the female cast+the avatar). We might use 1st gen and 2nd gen to refer to the characters in their groups as parent and child units, but there's no generational split in Awakening. What you seem to be thinking of happens in Genealogy of the Holy War, however, where you play as the adult characters for half the game and then play as child characters for the second half.

[Boji]

6 hours ago, Ertrick36 said:

I can't say too much without spoiling things.  If you want the quick and dirty, you start seeing them after you've completed chapter 13, but only if your avatar, or any of the female characters you've recruited before chapter 13, have gotten married (otherwise beyond chapter 13 you'll see a paralogue pop up as soon as you marry off one of these potential parents).  Also, if you don't want marriage plans to be interfered with, make sure Chrom is married before you start chapter 11 (or that every possible option for him is married off by that point) - the game will force him to marry whichever unmarried he has the highest support level with, or in the absence of available options he'll be married to an unnamed NPC who gives Chrom's child mediocre stats and absolutely no class options.

If your frame of reference is Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War, it isn't really much like that.  It's more like how it's handled in Fire Emblem: Fates, where the 2nd generation of units are just units that join the 1st generation's war, albeit the 2nd gen in Awakening have a much better reason for actually joining their parents' war than the 2nd gen in Fates.

 

6 hours ago, Jotari said:

You get the first child at the end of Chapter 13, no matter what happens. After you've finished Chapter 13, all other child units are available to be obtained at any time provided you have reached an S support with the unit needed to create them (most of the female cast+the avatar). We might use 1st gen and 2nd gen to refer to the characters in their groups as parent and child units, but there's no generational split in Awakening. What you seem to be thinking of happens in Genealogy of the Holy War, however, where you play as the adult characters for half the game and then play as child characters for the second half.

Thanks for the answers! I apriciete it a ton! If I understand right 2nd gen characters join after chapter 13. Also if 2 characters reach s rank after chapter 13, will they get kids aswell? Or are they locked out of it? And again thanks for the help

Edited July 24, 2021 by Boji

[Jotari]

7 minutes ago, Boji said:

 

Thanks for the answers! I apriciete it a ton! If I understand right 2nd gen characters join after chapter 13. Also if 2 characters reach s rank after chapter 13, will they get kids aswell? Or are they locked out of it? And again thanks for the help

The paralogues will either all open up automatically after finishing chapter 13, or whenever you reach an S support with two characters. So no, you're never locked out of them (well unless the parents in question die).

[Shadow Mir]

22 minutes ago, Boji said:

Thanks for the answers! I apriciete it a ton! If I understand right 2nd gen characters join after chapter 13. Also if 2 characters reach s rank after chapter 13, will they get kids aswell? Or are they locked out of it? And again thanks for the help

The paralogues open up after chapter 13 or when two characters get an S rank. I will note that some of them are out of reach initially.

13 minutes ago, Jotari said:

The paralogues will either all open up automatically after finishing chapter 13, or whenever you reach an S support with two characters. So no, you're never locked out of them (well unless the parents in question die).

I would note that it is possible to miss Sumia's daughter because she has a limited husband pool (only Chrom, Frederick, Gaius, Henry, and Robin can marry her).

Edited July 24, 2021 by Shadow Mir

[Boji]

12 minutes ago, Jotari said:

The paralogues will either all open up automatically after finishing chapter 13, or whenever you reach an S support with two characters. So no, you're never locked out of them (well unless the parents in question die).

Oh ok thanks! Thats relieving

[Dandy Druid]

There's no time limit to get them either. After Chapter 23 you can take as much time as you need to get them. So don't worry about "missing" anyone.

Also OP, your username means something inappropriate in Korean lol

[Ertrick36]

It should also be noted that there aren't really any balancing measures in place for the paralogues of each of the 2nd Gen units.  Some of them may be fairly easy while others are meant for higher level armies.  I think either way all of them have only promoted units as enemies.  Don't worry too much, though, if you select a paralogue chapter and think it's too difficult for your current army then you can always improve your army and come back to it later.  But it is a bummer if you're thinking that you want to get a particular character at a certain point yet can't because their paralogue is absolutely bonkers.  For all the talk of what Fates did wrong, in this respect Fates did thing better by ensuring the paralogue chapters would always be balanced based on how far you are in the game.

And yes, you could go as far as unlocking the final chapter of the game and still be able to gain new paralogues to recruit new 2nd Gen units.  The only capacity in which any character has any sort of " marriage time limit" at all is Chrom, and that time limit is just how much time he has to mingle with eligible bachelorettes before he's forced into a marriage by the plot.  There is absolutely zero pressure otherwise to get any marriages out of the way.  You can try to rapidly marry everyone off as quickly as possible, or you can take your sweet time figuring out what you want to do.

[Shadow Mir]

54 minutes ago, Ertrick36 said:

It should also be noted that there aren't really any balancing measures in place for the paralogues of each of the 2nd Gen units.  Some of them may be fairly easy while others are meant for higher level armies.  I think either way all of them have only promoted units as enemies.  Don't worry too much, though, if you select a paralogue chapter and think it's too difficult for your current army then you can always improve your army and come back to it later.  But it is a bummer if you're thinking that you want to get a particular character at a certain point yet can't because their paralogue is absolutely bonkers.  For all the talk of what Fates did wrong, in this respect Fates did thing better by ensuring the paralogue chapters would always be balanced based on how far you are in the game.

And yes, you could go as far as unlocking the final chapter of the game and still be able to gain new paralogues to recruit new 2nd Gen units.  The only capacity in which any character has any sort of " marriage time limit" at all is Chrom, and that time limit is just how much time he has to mingle with eligible bachelorettes before he's forced into a marriage by the plot.  There is absolutely zero pressure otherwise to get any marriages out of the way.  You can try to rapidly marry everyone off as quickly as possible, or you can take your sweet time figuring out what you want to do.

Bold: Nope. A few still feature mostly unpromoted enemies.

Anyway, while most of what you say is true. I'd emphasize that you can miss Sumia's daughter due to her husband pool being limited. Also, I would note some children appear as enemies, so be careful about approaching them, and another requires escorting to an NPC (I say NPC, but they're actually an enemy unit, so be careful not to kill them accidentally) to recruit.

[Ertrick36]

9 hours ago, Shadow Mir said:

Bold: Nope. A few still feature mostly unpromoted enemies.

Anyway, while most of what you say is true. I'd emphasize that you can miss Sumia's daughter due to her husband pool being limited. Also, I would note some children appear as enemies, so be careful about approaching them, and another requires escorting to an NPC (I say NPC, but they're actually an enemy unit, so be careful not to kill them accidentally) to recruit.

I made the assumption because by the time you are able to recruit any 2nd Gen characters you're basically running into mostly promoted units in the main chapters.  I also don't recruit all the children every play through so I have a foggy memory about how some of them go.

9 hours ago, Shadow Mir said:

I'd emphasize that you can miss Sumia's daughter due to her husband pool being limited.

The same is true of Chrom - or rather, he could be locked out of nearly all possible marriage options unless he gains enough support points with Olivia in the one chapter you recruit her that they could gain a support rank and thus get him forced into a rushed marriage with her (otherwise as I said before he'll be forced to marry a worthless NPC).  Though I figure one could sorta deduce as much if they just looked at the support logs.  Chrom and Sumia each have four possible marriage options, excluding the avatar because whether they're an option for either character depends on which gender they are.  Most other 1st Gen characters have over 10 possible marriage options, while the avatar can marry any of the 1st Gen or 2nd Gen characters of the opposite sex (it's less weird than it sounds, though it is kinda awkward regardless).

[Boji]

On 7/25/2021 at 11:00 AM, Dandy Druid said:

There's no time limit to get them either. After Chapter 23 you can take as much time as you need to get them. So don't worry about "missing" anyone.

Also OP, your username means something inappropriate in Korean lol

What really? Well I don't know korean, but It comes from my real name which Is Bojidar which is in Bulgarian, I just shortened it. Well seems like I'll have to change it.

[Shadow Mir]

13 hours ago, Ertrick36 said:

I made the assumption because by the time you are able to recruit any 2nd Gen characters you're basically running into mostly promoted units in the main chapters.  I also don't recruit all the children every play through so I have a foggy memory about how some of them go.

I remember that Morgan, Owain, Laurent, and Kjelle all still have unpromoted units being used. Speaking of, I will also note that Morgan in particular will have their initial class dependent on who Robin married, which can be a problem if you married anyone who would make them start as a healer because they start in range of enemies.

[Dandy Druid]

9 hours ago, Boji said:

What really? Well I don't know korean, but It comes from my real name which Is Bojidar which is in Bulgarian, I just shortened it. Well seems like I'll have to change it.

lol no worries! I don't think you'll need to change it since it's a part of your name and not many users here know Korean lol