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Now that Nickelodeon and WB have released Smash-esque platform fighters, Disney's turn is coming up. So, what would you all like to see in a Disney Smash game?

Roster

This would be the kind of starting roster I'd aim for, taking into account the fact they could add more fighters via DLC over time:

Spoiler

My roster aims to include a lot of the more iconic characters and series, though I have a couple B-listers in there as well.

  • Aladdin
  • Buzz Lightyear
  • Captain America
  • Chiro
  • Darth Vader
  • Dipper & Mabel Pines
  • Donald Duck
  • Elsa
  • Goliath
  • Goofy
  • Hercules
  • Hulk
  • Iron Man
  • Jafar
  • Kim Possible
  • Luke Skywalker
  • Maleficent
  • Mickey Mouse
  • Pete
  • Prince Phillip
  • Rapunzel
  • Spider-Man
  • Star Butterfly
  • Wolverine

Stages

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Bosses

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I'd just be interested in the Marvel and Star Wars side of things, honestly. I'd genuinely prefer a game that was just these properties smashed together without the tonal break of Disney cartoon characters.

 

Specifically, my favorite characters that would get me to buy such a game:

Gambit

Daredevil

Star Lord

Cyclops

Iron Man

Thor

Loki

Obi-Wan Kenobi

Luke Skywalker

Darth Maul

Darth Revan

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5 hours ago, Fabulously Olivier said:

I'd just be interested in the Marvel and Star Wars side of things, honestly. I'd genuinely prefer a game that was just these properties smashed together without the tonal break of Disney cartoon characters.

Ironically, I was thinking just the opposite - forgo the Marvel and Star Wars universes, for a pure face-off among Disney's deep animated library! That said, "Marvel vs. Star Wars" has its own definite potential. 

If I were making a "Disney Fighter", here's who I'd include:

- Mickey Mouse

- Oswald the Lucky Rabbit

- Donald Duck

- Goofy

- Grumpy (from Snow White)

- The Fairy Godmother (from Cindarella)

- Alice (from Alice in Wonderland)

- Peter Pan

- Maleficent

- King Louis (from The Jungle Book)

- Tigger

- Ariel

- Jafar

- Hercules (honey, you mean "Hunkules")

- Mulan

- Stitch

- Kronk

- Goliath (from Gargoyles)

- Spinelli (from Recess)

- The Dark Lord Chuckles the Silly Piggy (from Dave the Barbarian)

- Kim Possible

- Perry the Platypus (from Phineas & Ferb)

- Grunkle Stan (from Gravity Falls)

- Star Butterfly (from Star Vs. the Forces of Evil)

- Anne Boonchuy (from Amphibia)

- Luz Noceda (from The Owl House)

- Elsa (from Frozen)

- Wreck-it-Ralph

- Baymax

- Moana

There we go - thirty characters from almost a century of Disney's animated productions. I'll comment later with a possible Pixar-oriented DLC package.

Edited by Shanty Pete's 1st Mate
Screw it - another five, for a base roster of thirty.

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5 hours ago, Fabulously Olivier said:

I'd just be interested in the Marvel and Star Wars side of things, honestly. I'd genuinely prefer a game that was just these properties smashed together without the tonal break of Disney cartoon characters.

There are plenty of fighting games with Marvel characters, but I actually remember there being a gamemode in Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (the Wii and PS2 version, anyway) that was essentially a 3D arena fighter. It was called "Duel Mode." I didn't play it much because I only ever played the game by myself as a kid, but as far as I know, TFU is technically the first Star Wars fighting game... except the duel mode is a side mode to a single player action-adventure game.

~

I don't really have anything else to contribute here to this thread, but I'll at least mention that if a Disney fighting game ever happens for whatever reason, they inspire most of Mickey's moveset on his Epic Mickey appearances... maybe make animatronic alts for Goofy, Donald, and Daisy while they're at it.

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I did had some ideas for a Disney type Smash Bros. game might have. But this is a tough list that I think of for a Roster:

  1. Mickey Mouse (Mickey Mouse series)
    1. Minnie Mouse as Mickey's Echo Fighter (Mickey Mouse series) Unlockable
  2. Donald Duck (Duck series)
  3. Scrooge McDuck (Duck series) Unlockable
  4. Goofy (Goofy series)
    1. Max as Goofy's Echo Fighter (Goofy series) Unlockable
  5. Luke Skywalker (Star Wars series)
  6. Anakin Skywalker (Star Wars series) Unlockable
    1. Rey as Anakin's Echo Fighter (Star Wars series) Unlockable
  7. Ahsoka Tano (Star Wars series)
  8. Ezra Bridger (Star Wars series) Unlockable
  9. Din Djarin (Star Wars series) Unlockable
  10. Woody (Toy Story series)
    1. Jessie as Woddy's Echo Fighter (Toy Story series) Unlockable
  11. Buzz Lightyear (Toy Story series)
  12. Forky (Toy Story series) Unlockable
  13. Mike (Monster's Inc. series)
  14. Sulley (Monster's Inc. series)
  15. Lightning McQueen (Cars series)
  16. Mater (Cars series) Unlockable 
  17. Aladdin (Aladdin series)
  18. Aboo (Aladdin series) Unlockable
  19. Genie (Aladdin series) Unlockable
  20. Simba (The Lion King series)
  21. Timon and Pumba (The Lion King series) Unlockable
  22. Hercules (Hercules series)
  23. Mulan (Mulan series)
  24. Robin Hood (Robin Hood) Unlockable
  25. Snow White (Snow White) Unlockable
  26. Peter Pan (Peter Pan series)
    1. Wendy as Peter Pan's Echo Fighter (Peter Pan series) Unlockable
  27. Pooh (Winnie the Pooh series)
  28. Tigger (Winnie the Pooh series) Unlockable
  29. Stitch (Lilo & Stitch series)
  30. Lilo (Lilo & Stitch series) Unlockable
  31. Kuzco (Emperor's New Groove series)
  32. Kronk (Emperor's New Groove series) Unlockable
  33. Kim Possible (Kim Possible series)
  34. Ron Stoppble (Kim Possible series) Unlockable
  35. Penny Proud (The Proud Family series)
  36. Oscar Proud (The Proud Family series) Unlockable
  37. T.J. (Recess series)
  38. Jake Long (American Dragon Jake Long series)
  39. Phineas (Phineas & Ferb series)
    1. Ferb (Phineas & Ferb series) Unlockable
  40. Ralph (Wreck-it Ralph series)
  41. Felix (Wreck-it Ralph series) Unlockable
  42. Spider-Man (Marvel)
  43. Iron Man (Marvel)
    1. War Machine as Iron Man's Echo Fighter (Marvel) Unlockable
  44. Captain America (Marvel) Unlockable
  45. Hulk (Marvel)
  46. Wolverine (Marvel) Unlockable
  47. Bart Simpsons (Simpsons series)
  48. Homer Simpson (Simpsons series)

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I don't have a specific roster (though I'm liking the Saturday morning cartoon picks from the others). Mainly I would just hope for Jim Hawkins and John Silver from Treasure Planet. And especially the following which I iterated at least once for Smash Bros itself some years ago, but seriously I would love if Disney actually did this:

Maui Mallard/Cold Shadow (from...Maui Mallard in Cold Shadow {title varies by region}) -- An echo of Donald Duck (inasmuch as using the same model, plus Maui IS Donald, or at least is being portrayed by him) wearing a red tropical(?) shirt and blue cap, and fights primarily using a bug gun. But like Pyra/Mythra, he can freely switch to his ninja alter ego Cold Shadow when he needs to get up close and personal with his bo-staff (or he could be Maui's Super/Final Smash/what-have-you). Now I suppose that Darkwing Duck might be better suited for this kind of moveset since he's got the gas gun and imo could believably wield a bo-staff, but honestly I just want Disney to acknowledge this old platforming gem again. They did re-release the PC version on Steam back in 2019, I think, so that's a start.

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9 minutes ago, Baron the Shining Blade said:

I don't have a specific roster (though I'm liking the Saturday morning cartoon picks from the others). Mainly I would just hope for Jim Hawkins and John Silver from Treasure Planet.

I was considering Jim Hawkins! He fell just behind the cutoff for me, but would almost certainly feature were I to expand the base roster.

Speaking of expansion, how about a Pixar pack as DLC? Ten more characters, stat!

- Buzz Lightyear

- Flik (from A Bug's Life)

- Randall (from Monsters Inc.)

- Dory (from Finding Nemo)

- Frozone

- Lightning McQueen

- Eve (from WALL-E)

- Merida

- Joy (from Inside Out)

- Ian Lightfoot (from Onward)

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Lots of good suggestions! I like the idea of referencing past Disney games myself, especially those that are more platformer or action in nature and thus are a good source of material for a platform fighter. Honestly, Disney has so many iconic characters and settings that I'm amazed they weren't the first animation company to produce a Smash clone.

The funny thing about Stitch is that Reuben could work as an echo fighter since they're stated to have the exact same abilities. But of course Reuben's laziness and love of sandwiches would play a part in his animations, taunts, etc. Leroy could be included as an alt for Stitch

I like the suggestion of Kronk. Emperor's New Groove was one of the better films to come out of the "Experimental" era, doing well enough to score a sequel and a TV series. And Kronk is popular enough that he was the focal character of said sequel.

I wonder how Lightning McQueen or any other Cars character would work? Like, I can imagine their movement, but how would they hold and use items?

Another character I'm pondering, one that no-one here has suggested so far, is Kaa the python from the Jungle Book. Could he be a playable character? Or would he work better as a boss, a stage hazard, or maybe as something akin to an Assist Trophy? The craziest idea I've got in mind for him is that he actually appear as part of a prospective Mowgli moveset, aiding him like he does in the original books rather than trying to eat him like he does in the film. Maybe Mowgli has the ability to switch between Bagheera, Baloo, and Kaa, riding them like an animal buddy from DKC. Or maybe Kaa could function as a tether for Mowgli, allowing him to grab foes from far away and to latch on to ledges.

Speaking of Baloo, his TaleSpin incarnation could also be quite fun to include as a standalone fighter, though of course we all know Don Karnage is the TaleSpin rep of choice.

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I want the Silly Symphonies to get recognition. Probbably as stages though, since pinning a most recognizable charather would leave like the Three Little Pigs and Big Bad Wolf as pretty much the only options. 

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13 hours ago, Lord_Brand said:

I like the suggestion of Kronk. Emperor's New Groove was one of the better films to come out of the "Experimental" era, doing well enough to score a sequel and a TV series. And Kronk is popular enough that he was the focal character of said sequel.

Of course, he needs an attack that incorporates his spinach puffs. And maybe his "shoulder angel" and "shoulder devil" as alternate skins?

13 hours ago, Lord_Brand said:

wonder how Lightning McQueen or any other Cars character would work? Like, I can imagine their movement, but how would they hold and use items?

Any Cars character was gonna be difficult, but as Pixar's second-most-prolific property, it just had to be represented. Maybe he could hold the items in his mouth, a la Pikachu? Alternatively, maybe he couldn't use held items, but his other combat attributes would make up for it.

14 hours ago, Lord_Brand said:

Another character I'm pondering, one that no-one here has suggested so far, is Kaa the python from the Jungle Book. Could he be a playable character? Or would he work better as a boss, a stage hazard, or maybe as something akin to an Assist Trophy? The craziest idea I've got in mind for him is that he actually appear as part of a prospective Mowgli moveset, aiding him like he does in the original books rather than trying to eat him like he does in the film. Maybe Mowgli has the ability to switch between Bagheera, Baloo, and Kaa, riding them like an animal buddy from DKC. Or maybe Kaa could function as a tether for Mowgli, allowing him to grab foes from far away and to latch on to ledges.

It's an interesting proposition. That said, my own idea was for King Louie to be the Jungle Book representative. He's something of an antagonistic presence, and he's one of the few characters totally original to Disney's version. I figure he could play somewhat like DK, also having music-oriented attacks. That said, perhaps Kaa could feature in some of his moves? After all, the snake is hardly an ally to Mowgli in Disney's versions. Finally, I do wonder whether the in-game version of Kaa would be male (as in the original work, and animated film) or female (as in the live-action/CGI remake)?

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Surprised the Beast hasn’t  been mentioned, he'd be a pretty unique fighter thanks to his enchanted status. BTW, DIsney also own the Kingdom Hearts Original Characters, so it would be surprising not seeing Sora, Roxas, RIku, Axel etc. 

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9 hours ago, ZeManaphy said:

Surprised the Beast hasn’t  been mentioned, he'd be a pretty unique fighter thanks to his enchanted status. BTW, DIsney also own the Kingdom Hearts Original Characters, so it would be surprising not seeing Sora, Roxas, RIku, Axel etc. 

The Beast could be a neat choice! Perhaps some of his household servants could play into his moveset? Say, a fire attack using Lumiere, or slowing down time with the help of Cogsworth.

As for Kingdom Hearts, I could see them getting a rep like Sora. I refrained from including him in my own list, because A) he's not a cartoon character, and B) I'm not sure if Square Enix would put up any hurdles to his inclusion. That said, he'd be the "missing link" between Super Smash Bros. and Untitled Didney Fighter.

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11 hours ago, ZeManaphy said:

Surprised the Beast hasn’t  been mentioned, he'd be a pretty unique fighter thanks to his enchanted status. BTW, DIsney also own the Kingdom Hearts Original Characters, so it would be surprising not seeing Sora, Roxas, RIku, Axel etc. 

Beauty and the Beast is one of Disney's most notable Renaissance films, so yeah, it'd make sense if he were included. Since I've suggested having Mickey and co. draw from their Kingdom Hearts portrayals, sure, why not?

Speaking of beauties, what if the Good Fairies gave Princess Aurora some magic of her own to use for a moveset? She could be the Zelda to Prince Phillip's Link. For that matter, I'd be keen on giving some of the other Princesses some moveset potential as well. Jasmine showed her action girl side in the Aladdin TV series, and she has some...interesting options for costume alts (namely, her peasant disguise, the slave girl outfit Jafar puts her in, and her Scourge of the Desert persona from the TV series). Aerial would be so tempting, but I'm not sure how to incorporate her mermaid form.

Jumping to Marvel, what if Rogue were included as the "Kirby" of the game, allowing her to copy another fighter's power and thus use it herself?

I'm wondering if my initial roster is being a bit too optimistic, looking at the starting roster sizes for NASB (20) and MultiVersus (13). However, I could see Disney looking to one-up the competition by including a larger base roster, among other perks. "MultiVersus has four DC fighters? Well our game has eight Marvel fighters! MultiVersus only has Bugs Bunny? Well our game has Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, Goofy, and more! Our game has more starting fighters than NASB and MultiVersus combined!" I mean, shoot, when you think about it, Disney Smash World could easily match SSBU itself pound-for-pound in content. Roster size, stage selection, music, even something akin to Spirits.

We need to figure out what a good starting roster would be and how much can be added onto it over time. Way I see it, there are a few "pillars" Disney would want to represent:

  • The core Mickey Mouse franchise of cartoons, films, video games, etc.
  • The animated canon, ranging from classics like Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty to Renaissance hits like Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin to modern day phenomenons like Tangled and Frozen.
  • Disney TV series, again ranging from classics like Darkwing Duck and Gargoyles to modern hits like Gravity Falls and The Owl House. DuckTales fits in there somewhere too.
  • Pixar, including Toy Story, Monsters, Inc., The Incredibles, and yes, Cars.
  • The Marvel Comics franchise, most notably X-Men, The Avengers, Spider-Man, and The Incredible Hulk.
  • Star Wars and possibly other Lucas Arts properties.
  • The video game juggernaut known as Kingdom Hearts.

That's seven categories to build around right there. Though the Disney Princesses could constitute their own "pillar" with how much they're grouped and merchandised together.

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