Prims Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Things that are possible: Roleblocks out prioritize me. I asked clipsey last night what would happen if a roleblock targeted me and she didn't answer. So it could just be that roleblocks beat me, which would kinda make sense for them to have higher priority. There are two roleblocks in the game. Some other possibility that I don't know. I really don't like the tunnel vision going on, especially since there are two cases of things happening and you're just completely ignoring the one case while ignoring other parts of the other case. Regardless of who Grass targeted, if he targeted either BBM or Prims, if he has lower priority than me, he should have targeted both. If he's lying about targeting either of them, then where'd the roleblock come in? Roleblocks out-prioritizing you would make sense if there was a roleblock on you, but there wasn't. Actions can stop something if it targets the user, but be affected by the user's role if it targets the user's targets. Seriously though, even the OP says not to use "m-muh hidden priorities" as an argument. Basically everybody suspects Grass though so there's no point in lynching everybody else. I'm not confident any lynch is better for reasons beyond just "what if Grass isn't scum???" paranoia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Manix: regardless of you being town or not, you're going full tunnel vision on Grass right now and refusing to admit that there are reasons for why he might not have gotten a result. Let me ask this. REGARDLESS OF ALIGNMENT you think that if he targeted BBM/Prims, he should have targeted the other, yes? So then, *why would he lie about his results?* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 ##Unvote ##Vote: Eury feeling this a bit more now because reasons. specifically this please tell me you don't see that as a crumb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Second question for Manix: If Grass flips town, will you then insist on lynching me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 REGARDLESS OF ALIGNMENT you think that if he targeted BBM/Prims, he should have targeted the other, yes? So then, *why would he lie about his results?*his alignment is supported by whether is claims fit in with the version of events presented. if he is town (for whatever reason), and things are as claimed, that's a stupid priority problem that i'd blame eclipse for. the other is lying scum, which is obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 scorri: What I'd assume is that he targeted me, also targeted BBM, didn't realize how the role worked and used it as an excuse to claim that he hooked BBM. Most reasons he wouldn't have gotten a result involve "lol priorities" or shit beyond our control that isn't worth speculating about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Second question for Manix: If Grass flips town, will you then insist on lynching me?no, not really, since you have bbm/shinori still backing up your version of events Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 scorri: What I'd assume is that he targeted me, also targeted BBM, didn't realize how the role worked and used it as an excuse to claim that he hooked BBM.also this gotta remember that he doesn't have to be completely telling the truth about his target if he's scum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grassbridger Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 OH SO IT'S NOT A 1 V 1 YOU DUMBASS GLAD TO HEAR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Basically everybody suspects Grass though so there's no point in lynching everybody else. I'm not confident any lynch is better for reasons beyond just "what if Grass isn't scum???" paranoia.See this. Basically there should be less arguing about whether it's possible for Grass to be scum or not (because it's not going to matter today), and more Grass posting his last reads if he's town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 okay fine it's not a 1v1 you're just lying scum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Then a) It's not a 1v1, please stop calling it that. b) Why would he lie? Why would he claim results that don't completely match his results, knowing that it could come to bite him in the butt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 @scorri: scorri: What I'd assume is that he targeted me, also targeted BBM, didn't realize how the role worked and used it as an excuse to claim that he hooked BBM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 ugh shut up you guys know this argument isn't going to have any bearing on whether grass gets lynched or not it's just a waste of posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Manix why target shinori n2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 N1 I mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grassbridger Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Yeah I actually agree with Prims about giving reads, problem is everyone's tunneled on me today so very little has changed since end of yesterday, except one of my scumreads is dead and flipped scum. If I had actually received 2 role results I would have crumbed it SOMEwhere. This is also why I was mad confused about scorri's role, btw. I thought she was voyeur who had targeted BBM and seen a hook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 didn't target shinori n2, n1 I did via targeted shinori for probably being the claimed protective role. i targeted prims n2 to see if he wasn't bs'ing the roleblock claim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Also, interesting. That means Kay didn't target Shinori, making Shinori not the N1 kill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Also im going into court so I may not be responding for a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Also, interesting. That means Kay didn't target Shinori, making Shinori not the N1 kill.yeah that's a thing which is why I doubled back on that explanation during D2 because of ~role results~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Also, interesting. That means Kay didn't target Shinori, making Shinori not the N1 kill. Wait, what? How you figure this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Well, either that or Manix is lying but. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 basically i didn't know if the drivers had targeted other people for sure at that point so i could only assume other things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grassbridger Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Manix would've seen a Martyr action on Shinori. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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