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HAMMER SHUT UP apparently. How anybody can think "a bunch of people posted after hammer already so it's OK to keep doing it now that it's been pointed out" is beyond me. Not modkilling at this point but I'm tempted to inflict some penalty.

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Night 4

Night 4

Night 4

Night 4

"lol"

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Elieson - Kyouko Kasodani - Town Loudmouth - Lynched Day 4

It is now Night 4. You have 24 or so hours to send in your actions. Do not post at night unless your role allows you to do so.

Players:

2. BBM

4. Bluedoom

6. Essbee

7. Fera Shadoweh

9. kirsche (Kevin)

10. Laevateinn (Proto)

12. Manix

15. Paperblade

17. Sangyul (Boron)

18. scorri

19. Shinori

21. Strege

22. Super Serious Gal

23. Xin'dy

24. Zeem Camtech

Dead Parrots:

1. Baldrick - Mononobe no Futo - Town Tracker - Modkilled Day 1

16. Rapier - Koishi Komeiji - Town Commuter - Killed Night 1

20. Stahlypin - Youmu Konpaku - Town Bodyguard - Killed Day 2

3. Blitz - Marisa Kirisame - Town Mayor - Lynched Day 2

5. BT. - Sakuya Izayoi - Town Jailkeeper - Killed Night 2

13. NekoRex - Keine Kamishirasawa - Town History Eater - Killed Day 3

14. Objection!! - Cirno - Town Redirector - Lynched Day 3

11. Liquid Snake (Reinfleche) - Nitori Kawashiro - Town Inventor - Killed Night 3

8. Kay Elieson - Kyouko Kasodani - Town Loudmouth - Lynched Day 4

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I edited in the links to the pixiv sources of the cardflip images from N3 D4 N4 if anybody cares. Still can't find Keine's but oh well.

Still waiting on a few actions.

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Day 5

Isn't this fun?

Isn't this what life's all about?

Isn't this a dream come true?

Isn't this a nightmare, too?

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Paperblade - Tenshi Hinanai - ???????? - Killed Night 4

Indifferent toward Paperblade's return to heaven, Patchouli *shrug*ged, only to overexert herself and misplace her shoulder. She was promptly escorted back to the Scarlet Devil Library by BT. so that Koakuma could look up books on chiropractic therapy.

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scorri - Patchouli Knowledge - ???????? - Killed Night 4

also blah blah announcements

BOO! IMO we should make everyone just modkill themselves besides one or two clears and then we'll win by default. Wouldn't that be a cheap scary way to win!?

Sigh,

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I've realized with all the claims and my own some implications that I could've realized stuff that already happened earlier if I weren't stupid.

Pretty bummed, but no point in anything but trying to pull through.

Chen stop eating my lunch.

It is now Day 5. You have 72 hours to decide on a lynch. With 13 alive, it takes 7 to hammer.

Players:

2. BBM

4. Bluedoom

6. Essbee

7. Fera Shadoweh

9. kirsche (Kevin)

10. Laevateinn (Proto)

12. Manix

17. Sangyul (Boron)

19. Shinori

21. Strege

22. Super Serious Gal

23. Xin'dy

24. Zeem Camtech

Dead Parrots:

1. Baldrick - Mononobe no Futo - Town Tracker - Modkilled Day 1

16. Rapier - Koishi Komeiji - Town Commuter - Killed Night 1

20. Stahlypin - Youmu Konpaku - Town Bodyguard - Killed Day 2

3. Blitz - Marisa Kirisame - Town Mayor - Lynched Day 2

5. BT. - Sakuya Izayoi - Town Jailkeeper - Killed Night 2

13. NekoRex - Keine Kamishirasawa - Town History Eater - Killed Day 3

14. Objection!! - Cirno - Town Redirector - Lynched Day 3

11. Liquid Snake (Reinfleche) - Nitori Kawashiro - Town Inventor - Killed Night 3

8. Kay Elieson - Kyouko Kasodani - Town Loudmouth - Lynched Day 4

15. Paperblade - Tenshi Hinanai - ???????? - Killed Night 4

18. scorri - Patchouli Knowledge - ???????? - Killed Night 4

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I asked specifically because IIRC when Marth claimed the mass-jan, he said that using it caused him to relinquish the spellcard trading. But he was supposed to trade Cam's BPV spellcard to someone else, right? Assuming he told the truth about that, he couldn't have done both at the same time.

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I'm probably going to sleep soon, but a few things on my mind that I don't want to risk forgetting:

I looked over kirsche's ISO, as I said I would, over the night phase and I'm looking through it again. Right now, nothing in his content jumps out at me in a way that makes me think he's scummy. D4 shenanigans with his spellcard were silly and he should have specified how his card worked if he was going to claim it, but I can't see the scum intent in the way he did things. I will look through his stuff again in context, and not just by ISO, when I'm not half asleep but so far I think he's okay.

Right now, I don't know what to make of things, but I don't think we can depend on "blind trust" anymore. I am not okay with not voting someone I am uncomfortable with simply on the word of another and nothing else. I'll do my reread of the thread when I can get to it tomorrow, but I'm going back to one of my earlier scum reads.

##Vote: Proto

I still don't feel good about him, and my previous case on him stands. He didn't do much even after Paper "cleared" him by saying he and Fera were part of a neighbors group and that he was pretty certain they were town. All he really said on D4 was that he didn't see the Marth lynch and claimed. Didn't vote, didn't say who he thought was scum, nothing. If he had time to look at Marth's ISO and decide he didn't think he was scum, why not look through some of your scum reads' ISOs to try to substantiate a case on them? Neighborizor can also be both town-aligned or scum-aligned, so it's not telling.

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Well, gonna sleep soon, but IMO we should lynch among info roles today. We have a Tracker, Alignment Cop, Rolecop, Kill/Hook/Redirect Cop, Info-Giver, and Ascetic Self-Voyeur. That's too much by itself, and though we don't know what the Loudmouth does, if it's anything like the Epicmafia Loudmouth (publicly reveals all visitors), that could be another info role.

Boron, the info I outed on D1 says there's a GF. A GF in addition to a Neighbourizer who makes his neighbours immune to Cops is highly unlikely. I'm pretty sure Proto is town.

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BBM, I really don't want to use rolespec to try to determine Proto's townliness. His actions haven't been screaming town to me at all. At the very least he should tell us if he has any scum reads at all right now.

Also, by that same logic, I don't feel we should lynch just over "roles". This game is ROLE MADNESS, and I have a feeling that rolespeccing is going to get us in more trouble than not.

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There's a difference between role madness and role imbalance. Role madness is just when every person in the game has a non-vanilla role, which happens a lot in SF. Mafia having both a GF and someone who makes people immune to Cops is imbalanced.

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hi guys

Also, by that same logic, I don't feel we should lynch just over "roles". This game is ROLE MADNESS, and I have a feeling that rolespeccing is going to get us in more trouble than not.

this sums up everything i feel about lynching in info roles (it's a 24 player game with nonstandard roles, come now bbm)

also no visitors :/ not sure what the neighborhood is thinking because i can't clear them now as paranoia!cult

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hi there there's a third redirector (unless paperblade wasn't martyr/decoy/whatever redirects to self)

i was redirected from boron to strege, not guilty.

ugh, lemme gather my thoughts a bit

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There's a difference between role madness and role imbalance. Role madness is just when every person in the game has a non-vanilla role, which happens a lot in SF. Mafia having both a GF and someone who makes people immune to Cops is imbalanced.

We know from your information that there's apparently a godfather. But what else do we know? Personally, I'm surprised we've got this far into the game without lynching scum, ever, and we STILL haven't hit LYLO. I don't know what to assume about the setup or the roles or scum, so I'm trying to scum hunt without trying to be biased by all those things.

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