nocturnal YL Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 The childrens’ actual base stats = [(mother’s current stats – mother’s class base stats) + (father’s current stats – father’s class base stats) + child’s absolute base stats] / 3 + child’s class base stats The later you recruit a child, the higher their Level and stats. If their initial Level is higher than 10, add the corresponding number of Level Ups using the child’s growth rates in their current class to estimate their stats. (Emphasis mine) I found this doubtful. I just messed around with my marriage options, and got Suzukaze and Aqua married. Those two (especially Aqua) are known for their insane speeds, so there's no way Midoriko would get 12 speed. Context: Nohr Lunatic Classic, After beating Chapter 13. Here are what I have: Susukaze (Kaze) / Shinobi Lv 13 HP Str Mag Skl Spd Luk Def Res Total 24 11 0 15 20 7 8 14 Class 16 3 0 8 8 1 3 3 Personal 8 8 0 7 12 6 5 11 Aqua (Azura) / Singer Lv 21 HP Str Mag Skl Spd Luk Def Res Total 22 17 6 27 27 18 11 17 Class 16 3 0 6 5 3 2 3 Personal 6 14 6 21 22 15 9 14 Midoriko (predicted) / Herb Merchant HP Str Mag Skl Spd Luk Def Res 22/3 28/3 8/3 38/3 38/3 31/3 18/3 17/3 Personal Lv 10 7 9 2 12 12 10 6 5 Gain (4 Levels) 1 1 0 2 2 1 0 1 (rounded down) Personal Lv 14 8 10 2 14 14 11 6 6 Class 18 6 0 4 4 2 6 2 Total 26 16 2 18 18 13 12 8 Midoriko (actual) / Herb Merchant Lv 14 HP Str Mag Skl Spd Luk Def Res Total 28 15 3 19 12 14 12 7 Class 18 6 0 4 4 2 6 2 Personal 10 9 3 15 8 12 6 5 (Assumed growth rates) HP Str Mag Skl Spd Luk Def Res Aqua 25 50 25 60 60 40 15 35 Suzukaze 55 40 0 45 65 20 20 35 Midoriko 45 35 5 55 35 50 30 20 Combined 40 41 10 53 53 36 21 30 If the actual stat is 1 above the expected, it could have been because roundings are treated differently. But even with that in mind, Midoriko's HP is still higher than expected, and her Str, Spd and Res are lower than expected. Speed in particular is very jarring. So is it possible that the calculations are different this time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrophys Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Arya and XexR have noticed similar problems, and I've done calculations with the numbers they gave me and I agree that things aren't working out as expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Soldier Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) Well, here are some things we can deduce: Midoriko definitely does not start out with only her base stats at lv. 10. That would give her 26 12 2 14 8 12 10 4 Even if she were randomly levelled up to lv. 14, instead of fixed growth-ed up, it would be impossible for her to have 19 skill. Also, if she just started at the class base at lv. 1, it would again be impossible for her to have 19 skill. So, the parents definitely are adding something. What's telling appears to be the large gap between skill and speed. Both Kaze and Aqua have higher speed than skill contributions, so to have that large of a gap, her personal bases or growths must have a much larger influence on her stats than the Awakening formula. Question: Did you recruit Shigure so that we can compare his base stats to Midoriko? Edited July 13, 2015 by Sky Soldier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nocturnal YL Posted July 13, 2015 Author Share Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) I didn't recruit Shigure. Since he doesn't join in the chapter itself, this is going to take me quite a bit of effort. I also "unmarried" those two (suspend, exit, remove interim save). I still have my Chapter 14 data around, so maybe I can try that just for this experiment. Shigure's chapter is a seemingly very easy "defeat boss" map, so no loss if I lose that progress. (I still want Suzukaze with Aqua, but I'm running out of character slots and at this point, playing the sidequests late would result in more desirable high-level children.) EDIT: done! I said it's easy, but I didn't mean "Berka can 1-turn KO the boss" easy. Great, that makes things much easier for me. Shigure (predicted) / Pegasus Warrior HP Str Mag Skl Spd Luk Def Res Aqua Personal 8 8 0 7 12 6 5 11 Suzukaze Personal 6 14 6 21 22 15 9 14 Shigure Raw 9 6 1 7 7 5 8 7 ------------------------------------------------------ 23/3 28/3 7/3 35/3 41/3 26/3 22/3 32/3 Personal Lv 10 7 9 2 11 13 8 7 10 Gain (4 Levels) 1 1 0 2 2 1 0 1 (rounded down) Personal Lv 14 8 10 2 13 15 9 7 11 Class 16 3 0 5 7 4 2 6 Total 24 13 2 18 22 13 9 17 Shigure (actual) / Pegasus Warrior Lv 14 HP Str Mag Skl Spd Luk Def Res Total 27 12 2 16 20 13 11 16 Class 16 3 0 5 7 4 2 6 Personal 11 9 2 11 13 9 9 10 (Assumed growth rates) HP Str Mag Skl Spd Luk Def Res Aqua 25 50 25 60 60 40 15 35 Suzukaze 55 40 0 45 65 20 20 35 Shigure 35 45 5 45 35 25 35 25 Combined 38 45 10 50 53 28 23 31 The result didn't vary as much this time, but my Shigure is still slightly short-changed of everything except HP and Res. I don't see any obvious pattern right now. May need to investigate more. Edited July 13, 2015 by nocturnal YL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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