Catalena Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Hello! So after playing again RD recently, I've come with that thought: what if they are as many Branded as Laguz Tribes? Dragon - Soren (said in-game) Heron - Micaiah (said in-game) Lion - Stefan (from his name, relation to Soan) Tiger - Zelgius (because he's strong and everything, and it's never told exactly what Laguz he is) Cat - Amy (Callil's daughter; because of her wide-eyes which remind me of Lethe and Lyre, and it's known she is a Branded) Raven - Petrine (because of her hair and her eyes, and it's known she is Branded) Hawk - Volke (it's not told he is Branded, but I think that would completely fit the character: it would explain why he is so secret and everything; his hair could match, and maybe, when it's suggested in 4-5 that he worked for Izuka, he could have been a guinea pig for Izuka as a Branded) Then, I don't know for Wolves, but since we didn't know they survived I don't think there would be any Branded with a Wolf parent. So what do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaMonkey Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Tiger - Zelgius (because he's strong and everything, and it's never told exactly what Laguz he is) From what I've read, the general consensus is that Zelgius is Raven branded due to the giant black mark on his back (where the wings would be) and the fact that he's fast for a General. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidellCrimea Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) ^ What he says. Plus Zelgius has dark hair. The color is similar to that of a raven's feathers. Edited August 16, 2015 by RidellCrimea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Third point: You can see Zelgius's mark and it looks like a bird. Actually, I have a similar theory, except it expands slightly in that every Branded has story interactions with a particular Laguz. So Zelgius could actually be a Hawk since he clashes with Tibarn multiple times. Meanwhile Petrine is Raven as predicted because she allies with Naesala. Similar case with Amy where she gets comforted by Ranulf the Cat. So that just leaves Wolves and Tigers unaccounted for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tragonight Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 I think Zelgius is a Raven too. With the above reasons, and his double-life and loyalty. I always thought Amy was Tiger because of Largo's strength. But then again, he was turned to stone during Ashera's judgment so Calill might've had the Laguz blood there. Pretty big theory you have for Volke there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexMH3 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 I always thought Amy was Tiger because of Largo's strength. I'm fairly sure the game states she's adopted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poledoo Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 I think Zelgius is a Raven too. With the above reasons, and his double-life and loyalty. I always thought Amy was Tiger because of Largo's strength. But then again, he was turned to stone during Ashera's judgment so Calill might've had the Laguz blood there. Pretty big theory you have for Volke there. I'm fairly sure the game states she's adopted. Yup Amy was an adopted child, and all we know about her is that she's branded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricaofRenais Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I agree with Zelgius being part raven. I always thought Zihark and Tormod were also branded, but that's just a personal theory of mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tragonight Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I agree with Zelgius being part raven. I always thought Zihark and Tormod were also branded, but that's just a personal theory of mine. Why? You can be pure Beorc and still like Laguz. Ike is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricaofRenais Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Like I said it's a personal theory, Zihark I am just guessing, but I feel like Tormod is because he grows very slowly in the games and (this is talked about in several of his conversations in RD) plus Murarim knows a lot about the Branded, he is the only Laguz to know that Micaiah is part Laguz without being told. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titamon Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Most Laguz can tell what a branded is. Its not some special ability that Mwaurim has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Jam Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 The Laguz "binomial nomenclature" seems to go something like this: -Beast --Lion --Tiger --Cat --Wolf -Bird --Hawk --Raven --Heron -Dragon --Red --White --Black Not all of those "species" have Branded of their descent. I think Nailah said something about the wolves of Hatari not having the same aversion to Branded as the other Laguz, and that there are many Wolf-Branded in Hatari; nonetheless, we don't actually see any. Then, too, Soren is specifically of Black Dragon descent; there are no Branded of Red or White Dragon descent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSbardock84 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Yeah I agree with all of those mostly but I read and saw that other people above said that Zelgius is branded from a Raven. I've never actually considered Volke to be branded. Personally I don't think he is and I think we would know if he was but that's just me. But I agree with all of the other ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant head Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 I prefer to think Zelgius is a Hawk. They're more physically imposing than Ravens in this game, and Petrine already seems to be "the" Raven branded one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClLoulD Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 I don't believe Zihark is branded at all, from what I recall he was actually in a relationship with another laguz; I believe somewhere in Gallia? The game also goes out of it's way to inform us how Laguz can sense the branded and don't take too kindly too them, I can't imagine Zihark being able to live in Gallia for any prolonged period of time if he was a branded; hell even Stefan resorted to living in the desert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Jam Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 (edited) Lethe and Mordecai didn't seem to sense that Soren was Branded, and Mordecai in particular didn't know that Stefan was Branded until Stefan explicitly said so. Mordecai might not have known that feeling uneasy around them meant that they were Branded, but he didn't even say anything about feeling uneasy around them. In fact, the only Laguz who seem able to figure out that Soren is Branded are Nasir (who mentions it in PoR chapter 19, I believe) and Almedha (who specifically recognized him for his resemblance to herself, not for the fact that he was Branded). Which is odd, since the Gallian (i.e. probably beast-tribe) Laguz that Soren met when he was a child certainly did sense that he was Branded. Edited September 12, 2015 by Paper Jam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NICKT™ Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Lethe and Mordecai didn't seem to sense that Soren was Branded, and Mordecai in particular didn't know that Stefan was Branded until Stefan explicitly said so. Mordecai might not have known that feeling uneasy around them meant that they were Branded, but he didn't even say anything about feeling uneasy around them. In fact, the only Laguz who seem able to figure out that Soren is Branded are Nasir (who mentions it in PoR chapter 19, I believe) and Almedha (who specifically recognized him for his resemblance to herself, not for the fact that he was Branded). Which is odd, since the Gallian (i.e. probably beast-tribe) Laguz that Soren met when he was a child certainly did sense that he was Branded. Probably not the best explanation but I came across this when I was reading FE tropes under Fridge. Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance, Ike and Soren's (and to a lesser extend, Soren and Stefan's) supports reveal that Soren is a Branded and the Laguz effectively ignored his existence as a child. Why then, did Lethe and Mordecai acknowledge him when they met? Soren was with Beorc. Those Beorc were willingly traveling with Soren, so to the Laguz that clearly meant they could not have known what he is. They had to acknowledge him, because otherwise they'd be forced to admit to one of the greatest secrets of the Laguz. It's iffy, but it's at least something to keep the conversation going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Jam Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 (edited) I suppose it's also possible, since Soren was in a group of Beorc, that Lethe and Mordecai were only able to sense that one or more of the Greil Mercenaries was Branded, not which mercenary in particular. And if Soren really was always at Ike's side, they'd never be able to figure out which of the two was the Branded either. From <http://serenesforest.net/wiki/index.php/Chapter_15:_The_Feral_Frontier_%28Script%29>,it looks like Lethe and Mordecai were able to sniff out Stefan. Lethe steps on Stefan's space LetheSniff... Hm? LetheI...sense...something...Lethe...Grrrr...Must be my imagination...StefanA female cat! Splendid! I've not seen your face in these parts before.LetheAaaah! Wh-where...Where did you come from?StefanOh, I see that I've startled you. My apologies.LetheWho are you?StefanIf you wish to learn someone's name, isn't it polite to introduce yourself first?LetheGrrr... I am...Lethe. From Gallia.StefanAnd I...am Stefan! I live here in this desolate wasteland, playing at being a hermit.LetheIs that so? Well, don't let me interrupt your...life.StefanOh no! Please don't worry about it.LetheOh, I won't.Lethe...And?StefanWhat?StefanWhy are you standing there staring at me? I'm interested in Gallia's beast tribes. Fascinating, really. I have an idea! Can we go somewhere and talk?Lethe...I don't think so.StefanWhy not?LetheMy companions and I are in the middle of a battle! I've no time to chitchat with you!StefanVery well... Then I will help you! And once this battle is finished, you'll have time to converse, yes?LetheI suppose...perhaps...StefanRight! Off we go then!Lethe...What sort of lunatic have I found now?Mordecai steps on Stefan's space.MordecaiSniff...MordecaiUrrrr?MordecaiSomething's...here...Beneath...the sand... Mmmrrr??StefanNope! I'm over here.MordecaiSo there you are.You are...good at hiding.StefanTo be praised by one of the beast tribes is an honor! I am Stefan! I live here in this desolate wasteland, playing at being a hermit. Who are you? I haven't seen you in these parts before.MordecaiI am Mordecai, a warrior of Gallia. This is the first time I have walked beyond the borders of my country.StefanI thought that might be the case...And I was right. Hoooo! I'm ever so clever!StefanMordecai, listen here. I'm interested in the beast tribes of Gallia. Would you mind talking with me? I'll buy dinner!MordecaiUm... My friends and I are fighting, so I...cannot. Sorry.StefanVery well, then! I will help you. Once this battle is finished, you'll have time to converse, yes?MordecaiAll right. If you will fight with us,then I will call Stefan a friend. Later, we will talk about Gallia.StefanI'm looking forward to it. Right then, off we go!MordecaiYes! Off we go!...Right...then... Edited September 13, 2015 by Paper Jam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSbardock84 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I know Petrine doesn't have a branded symbol on her forehead but her hair does look like a black dragon's human form hair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalena Posted September 26, 2015 Author Share Posted September 26, 2015 (I'm sorry to reply one month later...) So first, thanks for your answers. Many of you believe that Zeligus is a Raven due to his Brand. So I was thinking, what if we compare all the Brands we see? I don't think much of them appear (Micaiah, Zelgius, Soren on his forehead and maybe Petrine?), but maybe that would help. VincentASM, I also like your theory, it works well. You can add Micaiah with Rafiel, and maybe Soren with Nasir (I think they were in bad terms in Path of Radiance?). Paper Jam, thanks for that binomial nomenclature. Seeing things like that, it sure adds some Laguz with no Branded people. I always thought that Black, White and Red Dragons were closer than Cat/Tiger/Lion for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSbardock84 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 ^Micaiah gets her branded from Lehran and Soren gets his from his mother Almedha, both of those are confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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