Fear The Pika

Heya~ I have this feeling this will go horribly, I haven't played Mafia in ages, let alone on SF where I wasn't used to the style. But I'll play as best I can and have a good time of it~

Kay talked me into signing up, so sign up I guess I wil

Just for the record, this is how I normally play. I'm not push push push, I sit back more and analyze and act later.

Im going to be out for a while, touring a college I might go to and no wifi

Mancer, that is the one post I made doubting your claim. I never made another post similar to that, you are lying. THAT is my last post I made saying anything about I think we should element claim. That is the last post you made about element claiming. Yeah, see the time difference? You posted it 5 minutes after I did. Long after everyone else stopped talking about it? I think not. I'd like to point out that post where you were the one being called out for pushing element claiming. That is another post talking about element claiming after my last post. Yeah, another lie from you, one that you have been pushing for the last two days. I already said why I didn't just throw a vote around on D1, just because I do things differently than you doesn't mean I'm scum or "unwilling to take a solid stance". Is this solid enough for you? Mancer has been tunneling and lying to push my lynch, I do not believe Mancer's claim of Miller should be believed as no townie should ever have to lie and grasp at straws to push a lynch.

Why? Because it's not close to a hammer vote. It's not doing any good now (not saying that it wasn't earlier), but I've been busy with making a resume and other real-life related stuff to read deeply in this thread (Spoiler alert: the college I want to go to did not notify me that they needed something very important and I've been scrambling to get that). No. Just, no. Almost EVERYTHING in this post is a lie, or twisted from the truth. I did not indirectly admit to not helping town, I did not ask you for details after that first post, and I did NOT "push element claiming long after everyone dropped it". This is NOT a town thing to do. ##Unvote ##Vote: Mancer If you're town, you have no reason to lie to push my lynch. Everyone else, I'll get to you later, I have to go referee a soccer game now

SB, there was no intention of it sounding like I feel he's more likely to be TPI, because I don't. I feel both are equally likely. So just because I stated "TPI or maybe maf" means I think it's more likely that he's TPI? Also, I don't believe I had any solid scumreads when I voted Slayer (although I may be misremembering the time I voted, I'll need to look back and check later). So my vote helped the town by being one more vote on an admitted non-town member while I waited to see if a better option turned up.

Mancer, if you haven't noticed, I said one thing about not believing your reveal, then I was informed that things are different on this forum. You are grasping for ways to get me lynched, as there were people who could be called more unhelpful than me on D1. FoS: Mancer Quite frankly, I'm starting to doubt your claim. A townie shouldn't be pushing so hard to get one person lynched on absolutely no evidence and the reasons are flimsy at best. You have been pushing for my lynch for last two days without backing up your claims, and you've been even more unhelpful than you claim I was by tunneling.

What role grasping? Me saying I didn't believe there wasn't anything more to your role? And how am I unhelpful? You've been less helpful than me, pushing my lynch without even backing up your arguments.

Also, why do people think it's weird that I mention that maybe Psych is an ITP? I'm not voting for him on the basis that I think he's an ITP, I'm voting for him on the basis that I think he's anti-town, I simply don't know what kind of anti-town at the moment. I will not apologize for how I word things, or for voting to put pressure on someone. Especially if my wording things isn't even wrong, I simply mentioned ITP before scum

What veiled threat...? I want him to post, I'm putting pressure on him to post. What's the problem here?

These are the particular quotes I was referring to. All right, I'll try! Look at your own role PM. That is your role. Notice how mostly everyone hasn't directly announced what their role is? Townspeople do not want to do this, and give the mafia an idea of who to kill. Mafia does not want to do this because they are trying to act like town/they don't want to be found out on role (certain roles are absolutely, positively NOT town-aligned). Now, if I think I've figured out a powerful town role, based on deduction, I do NOT want to out this. If I am right, I am painting a bullseye on someone's head, and this is a risk I refuse to take. That's why I explained only as much as I did (going into full detail requires naming who I think the cop is). If I got the wrong thing, lemme know!

Hold on, I never said that Psych is only third party. Lemme quote exactly what I said. "6. Psych is just... weird. I'm thinking possible third party, maybe scum?" There is no certainty about which he is, but I don't feel he's town. I don't think he's town, but I don't know which of ITP or maf because he hasn't posted more today, and D1 posts don't really help decide. Again, I didn't say that. What I said is "2. What's the big deal with Eclipse claiming she knows who the alignment cop is and doesn't want to out him?" I never found it odd that Eclipse isn't outing the cop, I'm asking why people were making it a big deal. Completely different. What was the harm in voting for an ITP when I didn't see a good alternative yet? There wasn't a hammer and the day wasn't ending soon, so does it really matter where I put a vote? And I believe Mancer's claim of Zuko/Miller, so regardless of how he's playing, that first part stands (besides that I've been informed that this is how he usually plays). Also, I have a null read on Kay, and am still looking at other people as I haven't really examined the thread yet today. It isn't that I don't think other people might be scum, it's that I haven't had the time to look in-depth at these people. And on that note, I find you twisting what I said to be somewhat scummy, as town should never be changing the meaning of words. You will be one of the people I look back at.

So... That is a lie. Mancer, I made one post saying I didn't believe your claim originally, I didn't push you for details after I was informed of the difference between forums. I never "pushed" you to give more details. I'm also tired of being falsely accused of "pushing element claiming". I made the initial post about element claiming, said that if a majority of others thought it was a good idea, we should do it, and later agreed that if we do it, not now. If you count listing the pros and cons about it, then quite frankly, that's stupid. That's not pushing for an element claim, that's discussing pros and cons. Rein also thought it was a good idea to claim elements. Mancer, you said it could help trip up scum and agreed to claim if a majority thought it was a good idea. SB accused you of pushing element claiming before Slayer accused me. I don't think you really know what you're talking about, parroting over and over that I pushed element claiming. Show me the proof. It was about two hours that I discussed element claiming, not the entire day. Now, as for thoughts on the day. 1. I believe Elie with the claim of hooked, I'm just worried about the fact that someone wants Slayer to live. 2. What's the big deal with Eclipse claiming she knows who the alignment cop is and doesn't want to out him? 3. I'm not sure what to think of Kay. She thought we should switch from the Shinori vote, but so did I, as well as a few others. Her posts aren't really screaming scum to me, but I'm not getting a strong town feeling coming from her, either. In other words, it's a null read, not a scum read. 4. Mancer needs to stop telling people what to do and pushing his reads without supporting them. I wish I didn't believe he's town playing horribly. But his "Boron, why so mean" thing just... he's almost playing the victim (which, ironically, is what he accused Boron of doing) 5. Eclipse is reading town to me. Some of her posts are slightly odd, but for the most part, I'm just seeing a good scumhunter. 6. Psych is just... weird. I'm thinking possible third party, maybe scum? Either way, there need to be more posts soon. ##vote: Psych

*I will NOT be posting until late tomorrow afternoon.