[General Warriors & FE Warriors Questions Thread]

I think you're all forgetting that while HW had a base roster of 13, multiple characters had different move sets (which are like having another character), so there were 20 unique move sets at the start. And the base roster was upgraded to 16 after the 3 villains, so the 20 is boosted to 23. 25 isn't much more than 23 and they've been really bragging about the roster size of this game, so it wouldn't make much sense to act like having 25 characters is amazing when there are clones (which may be included in the 25 because of Hinoka -  she's a bit different from Cordelia but still shares some of the same attacks, and Lucina, who's similar to Chrom except she has different specials IIRC) and their previous Nintendo Warriors game had just two less. 

Not to mention how even with 25 characters there are still some holes that'd be missing. Cavalier lance? Dark mage? Knight? Second archer? Two beasts, maybe? Because surely they didn't add in stones/bows for just Tiki/Takumi. And that right there is six characters. With just two slots remaining, we still have to have villains and prominent characters that don't fall into categories above (e.g Caeda because surely she wouldn't be left out, Azura because they'd be stupid to not add her, etc.). I just don't see them having an okay roster if we only have 8 more characters.

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oh god

I know I'm the residential Sakura and Elise fanboy, but dont yall find it strange

that there's a spot left by the little brothers of each kingdom

and it would let Sakky and Elise conveniently slide on in? I think we can assume the main/central characters of each game will be somewhat together, because there's chrom/lissa/robin on one side, and frederick/cordelia/lucina on the other. Cords is kind of an outlier, but overall the central characters will be near each other. I think we all know the central characters for Fates' world will just be the royals. So it would be very strange to have retainers like Oboro or Effie next to Takumi and Leo. If they decided to put a retainer next to the little brothers, wouldn't it look nicer for the retainers to be alongside other non-royals and not just one retainer in a clump of royals? There's a reason the royals are at the top, and I don't think it'd make sense aesthetically or logically to put non-royals next to them. But at the same time, if it's only 3 from each side (no little sisters), why not center the one at the bottom? And obviously if all 4 royals from each side are in then it's a no brainer to put them all together.

I think the only things wrong with this are Cords and Azura (there's no space around Corrin for her to be close to them... strange) but IDK I just noticed this and really wanted to point it out since no one's said anything about it yet

[Hinoka, Camilla, Takumi and Leo confirmed]

5 hours ago, Ertrick36 said:

 

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In Conquest, Hinoka becomes Queen of Hoshido while Sakura is just sort of phased out for no good reason.

Though conversely, Elise seems to have a bigger role in Birthright than Camilla.

In Revelation, none of the sisters are really all that relevant.  Them joining you just makes the other royal siblings more willing to join you.

 

 

 

That's one thing though, and it's not like Sakura could've been Queen; it would have always been passed down to Hinoka because she's the eldest after Ryoma. Sakura and Hinoka are both not really crucial to the plot but Sakura does a bit more than her as a whole, so that's why I said Hinoka is less important than her.

I haven't played Fates in a while so I don't remember the whole story of each 3 paths, but there was that one scene in Revelations, I think? when Saizo was going to blow himself up to kill you, and she (along with Kaze sobeit) managed to calm him down. That's another small thing Sakura did. Hinoka just doesn't really do much throughout the story.

[Hinoka, Camilla, Takumi and Leo confirmed]

On 8/22/2017 at 6:36 AM, BlizzardWolf95 said:

They would, but so would've most of the characters I mentioned above. By perfect, I meant they're not explicitly battle-ready, even less so than Lissa. Whatever purpose they could fill, they can easily do it through in-battle dialogue, if need be.

The only other chance they have to be playable is in a reveal with Azura. Otherwise, I think NPC is what they'll be heading for.

I know I'm very late, but I really want to know your take as to why the little sisters are less battle-ready than Lissa. Sakura taught herself how to use bows in Conquest and she's willing to kill Corrin and Azura, people she thought she could consider her siblings. That's battle-ready. Compare that to Lissa who almost got herself killed in Chapter 2 of Awakening.  Not to mention how Sakura's one of the few potential scroll users and has a bit of plot relevance, for being a royal and more things (her distracting Iago, first sibling to join you in Revelations, etc.)

Elise is a harder case considering how she's not a Strategist in Birthright ofc but she's actually seen Camilla in combat, this is said near the beginning of Fates IIRC, so Elise already has some battle experience, not as a fighter obviously but she's not new to battles.

Lissa, on the other hand, has no real battle experience (I don't think any of the shepherds are veterans of combat besides Frederick? But I know I'm likely wrong) and she's 14 years old. I'd be willing to bet the younger sisters are older than that even.

I know I'm very biased towards the cinnamon rolls but Hinoka is less important than Sakura and she got playable status. Whatever purpose Hinoka has could has been done through in-battle dialogue too, but that didn't stop them. And besides, purpose isn't always story related. Elise is our best troubadour/mounted cleric character, and Sakura is a cleric bow user who can potentially have scrolls in her moveset. It doesn't make sense to pass them up and say "NPC, they don't have much purpose" when they both have their own very unique niches.

[Hinoka, Camilla, Takumi and Leo confirmed]

7 minutes ago, BlizzardWolf95 said:

Compare to the likes of Ramba Ral, Kai Shiden, Fa Yuiry or Yazan Gable not being playable, but NPCs with unique mobile suits (except Fa), in DWG1. Or Pippin, Isidro, Skull Knight, or Mozgus being NPCs (even when SK has a unique moveset!) in Berserk.

Being a Warriors NPC isn't too bad.

I'm confused. I haven't played any Warriors games besides Hyrule Warriors, though.

I'm still lost as to how Sakura and Elise are perfect as NPC's. They'd make really diverse characters to play as!

[Hinoka, Camilla, Takumi and Leo confirmed]

3 minutes ago, BlizzardWolf95 said:

Warriors games are typically 97% NPCs. Samurai Warriors 4 had ~50 playable characters and around 900 named NPCs.

Hyrule Warriors didn't have any NPCs, but other collabs, like Gundam and Berserk, were filled to the brim with them, being about a 1:8 ratio of playable characters to NPCs. Not sure if FEW will get this treatment, but if it already confirmed NPCs in a twitter post a few weeks back, I'd say we'll be getting a few, and Elise/Sakura would fit right in.

I wouldn't think that they're a perfect fit. They have relations with many other characters, which was a criteria when they decided on the roster. They're also very popular (Shoot, the little sisters are more popular than Lissa!) and Elise is plot relevant, and they're already more important than other characters because they're royals. If they can give Lissa an axe, I don't see why Elise and Sakura would be best as NPC's. Plus we wouldn't be able to have a mounted healer w/o Elise (no one's asking for Maribelle LOL) and Sakura could have some scroll moves while being a bow user; they'd both be pretty unique.

 

7 minutes ago, LucarioGamer812 said:

Lissa does not count? Still probably will appear alongside Azura since the fates royals are so popular and we don't have a mounted healer yet or a healer based on bows/magic

True! The lack of Azura was very weird though considering she's basically a shoo-in lol. I really hope they're with Azura, otherwise it'd be very strange to have all of the siblings besides the little sisters

[Hinoka, Camilla, Takumi and Leo confirmed]

oh my god

we have hinoka (cordelia 2.0..... I LOVE hinoka just less than my SWEET SMOL SISTERS :(((( but she's a lance pegapony like Cords :( )but not sakura or elise

omg im dead whERE ARE MY CINNAMON ROLLS

omg i really wanted sakura to use like a bow and elise to use like tomes and they'd be healers too and sakura could've had scrolls AAAAAAAAA

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

 

on the flip side azura wasn't confirmed so maybe we get them with her but why announce every sibling AND NOT THEM

this doesn't make sense oh my god

all i wanted was sakura NoOoOoOoOoOOoOooOoOoOoooOoO considering canceling my preorder if this game has no cinnamon rolls

yall wake me up inside when we get our sweetie pies ok????

no im serious i really dont understand WHYYYYYYY these little cuties would be AMAZING in this game!!!! my heart is shattered NOOOOOOOOOO

how hinoka get in but not sakura?????? they basically score the same in popularity poll :((((

EDIT: SHOOT Elise got 4th I thought she kind of had to be in?????

[New Interview with the Devs.]

On 8/15/2017 at 0:49 PM, The DanMan said:

I'm the last person who you need to apologize too about long posts; here and elsewhere I generally have a lot to say and end up condensing things.

Robin has sword access in Awakening, but that was eschewed entirely in FEW; the same will likely happen with Leo. Robin's also got anima magic locked down pretty securely; having another "archmage" character in Elise would be a bit redundant (though I could see the case for giving her light magic for the sake of uniqueness).

The naginata justification kinda doesn't work, due to there only being swords/axes/lances. That said, if Hinoka is in she'd likely be a semi-clone with those differences (which I could see being done to pad out the lance roster; same deal with Draug and whatever other armor knight they go with).

Scrolls are basically animal summons; that right explains my reasoning. Robin's got anima, Leo's got ...Brynhildr (gravity/trees/dark), and Tharja is likely pure dark magic. Having a summoner-esque character would be incredibly unique.

Sorry for responding so late, I just realized you responded omg

Robin is primarily a tome user, but he does pull out a Levin Sword for his special in this game. It's almost guaranteed Leo's attacks all use Brynhildr but I don't think it would be shocking for him to start or end one combo with a sword, you know? And Robin does have anima magic so Elise would be similar to him, but I think that because she's mounted and has no dark magic access, and has staff access, that she'd still be pretty different.. Plus, Robin has multiple dark magic spells iirc and a lot of people still think Tharja is very likely. And Chrom and Marth have Falchion and they're both unique.

I thought a naginata was a kind of lance? I may be wrong but I could swear it was. It would be a bit strange though for Hinoka to use a naginata while the other lancers use normal lances, so you have me there. I don't think it'd be that big of a deal though bc IIRC Fates included naginatas under lances so I don't see why they couldn't do it here. I wouldn't be opposed to her being a clone at all though, it actually makes a lot of sense. They are both lance pegaponies, and I think they could make her different enough to be on par with Lucina, maybe more unique, if they made 4 different foot sword users (Chrom, one twin, Ryoma, and Marth. Excluding Xander bc he's mounted, Corrin bc dragon, and the 2nd twin and Lucy because they play similarly to another character).

It'd be very interesting for Sakura to use scrolls though. Lissa ends a combo with thunder from her staff so now I'm hoping that if Sakura's a bow user, she still ends a few combos with scrolls. They would be so visually entertaining!

[New Interview with the Devs.]

Just now, The DanMan said:

Leo's already a mounted mage, taking Elise's niche; Hinoka is a bog-standard PK, a niche Cordelia already fulfills; honestly, Sakura seems like the most unique due to being a healer/archer (or hopefully healer/scrolls).

That's just my thoughts on their situation, though.

i'm sorry for this long post, I have a lot of bias towards the three girls but no one ever really discusses their potential in Warriors

That's true, but we have many swordsmen already and we don't know the final roster. And I don't think Leo and Elise share the same niche; Leo has his own tome and uses dark magic. While they're both mounted, they'd play very differently, similar to how Chrom and Marth, despite them both using Falchion, seem to be different. Examples would be this; Leo can summon trees with Brynhildr. Elise cannot summon trees and would have to rely on Wind, Fire and Thunder magic. Leo has access to Nosferatu, which can restore his health. Elise does not have access. Dark magic and fire/wind/thunder magic have the potential to be completely different. Not to mention how Leo has sword access and Elise is a cleric. I don't think the two would be stepping over each other in terms of niche. I think it was said Lissa uses thunder from her staff as an attack, so I wouldn't be surprised if Elise pulls out her staff to freeze an enemy, allowing her to get more hits in. Plus, everyone's still betting on Caeda and we already have Cordelia, so if we can have 2 pegaponies I don't see why we can't have 2 mounted mages.

You have me on Hinoka though, as she and Cords are both lance pegaponies, but I don't think seeing two lance pegaponies would be out of the question, as there's many kinds of lances they could use. Hinoka could use a naginata and play similarly to Impa from HW, being stronger but slower compared to Cordelia. I think it was confirmed characters of the same class would play similarly so Hinoka and Cords (if the former is in) would likely have the same moveset save for specials. Though I never saw much discussion about Hinoka, even before Cords was confirmed. Probably just me though.

Sakura imo would be really fun to play and she doesn't really have overlap with anyone (save Takumi but he has his own weapon and she's a cleric). Could I ask why you'd prefer her to use scrolls? It'd be wicked cool to have her use them now that I think about it actually.

[New Interview with the Devs.]

On 8/13/2017 at 2:03 PM, Jedi said:

I honestly have changed my mind on Hinoka, Sakura & Elise being possibly disregarded. Considering 3 things

A. While less popular than the other nobles they still scored really high 
B. Nintendo & IS's mandates 
C. Their focus on character relationships with each other.

Hmm, I'm pretty late on responding to this but may I ask why the 3 royal girls seem less popular than the others? Sakura I can understand as she really did get last place out of all of the royals but Elise was 4th, beating out M!Corrin, Ryoma, Azura, Hinoka and Sakura (so Elise was in the middle of all of the royals in terms of popularity) and Hinoka was 6th, right behind Azura and tying with Ryoma. All three did really good, even compared to the other royals. Shoot, the only people who actually beat a royal are Oboro (who beat all of them bar Xander, Leo, F!Corrin and Camilla and she tied with Takumi), and Jakob (who beat M!Corrin, Ryoma, Azura, Hinoka, Sakura and tied with Elise). Niles got close (tied with Sakura). I'm just really confused as to why people never really noticed their popularity

[New Interview with the Devs.]

53 minutes ago, BlizzardWolf95 said:

The rankings of multiple units as S, A, B or C, corresponding to their likeliness never occured to me as a means to judge. 

So I tried my hand at it (apologies for my terrible penmanship). Tried to keep it as far from bias as possible.

Hmm... I think some of your placements are off. Spoilers are S, then A, then B complaints.

 

I love Nowi, but she'd definitely be a C or B tier. She's somewhat popular (10th on the Awakening poll iirc) but that alone isn't noteworthy to send her into S and she'd play very similarly to Tiki. She'd be an easy clone though. I would LOVE to see Nowi but I don't think they're going to go crazy with clones. But who knows, I may be wrong.

I also wouldn't place Walhart or Gangrel in the S tier. They are Awakening villains, but I see the S tier as "omg we would be STUPID to not add these!!!" or "that's so weird... [character] didn't make the cut.... what??" (think not having Mario in Smash). Walhart has his own class (Conqueror) and Gangrel could be a spellblade but I don't think they're that noteworthy to be in the shoo-in tier. Same with Garon and Medeus. I think all villains would be A/B tier. I don't think any villain is a shoo-in really but that's just me.

I don't think we'll be seeing Linde AND Merric but that's just me.

And why is Leo A but Takumi S? Leo won the popularity poll and has his own special weapon too.

 

I'd bump down most of the Fates characters in the A tier to B tier tbh. Save for Oboro.  I don't understand how Subaki is ranked higher than Hinoka. The latter's a royal, same class, and more popular. The beast boys, Effie and Hanz aren't very popular and the latter is kind of irrelevant. You say that Subaki, Selena and Cordelia conversations would be cash but it was revealed the developers are trying to stray away from shipping, etc. in this game. And I don't think it'd be cash if you could just google it.

I think Lon'qu and Gaius would both be B considering they use swords.

 

And now, here is where you got me twisted. The royal girls should all be A. shoot, I'd even push for S. Here's why. I'm very biased though but I don't think the 3 royal girls would be in B.

Elise is one of the most popular Fates characters. She placed 4th in the poll. Elise beat all royals besides Camilla, Leo, Takumi, Xander, and F!Corrin. She's more than semi-popular. Hinoka wasn't far behind with 6th (Ryoma was also 6th) and Sakura was right behind Hinoka with 7th. So already the 3 royal girls beat all of the retainers you put in the A tier besides Oboro. Elise was right behind her. Shoot, Sakura, despite being the lowest-placing royal, beats all of the retainers besides Oboro and Niles (who she ties with). Not to mention how Elise is actually really plot relevant in Birthright onii-chan noooo and all three of them are like the cover characters for their route (along with their other siblings of course). Also, the cutoff point for Fates is Chapter 6 (meaning that's when Rowan/Lianna cross over), all 10 royals are guaranteed an appearance. Retainers join later than that so I don't think they're as likely. Elise and Sakura are clerics and would make some sense as NPCs (but I could def. see them playable) but they have relations to other characters (the other royals) and Lissa's in; she was in the same boat. While the 3 royal girls are not "they're in or the world dies" tier, I wouldn't rank retainers (besides Oboro and I think Oboro would be on the same level as them) above them and I sure wouldn't rank the royal girls with characters like Mozu (optional) and Corrinsexuals. Also, if Camilla is in then it would be very strange to not have Hinoka to counteract her. And if you have 6/8 royal siblings, that too would be strange.... why not add the little sisters?? The royal girls are pretty unique too (why say no to an extra lance, bow, or tome?)

You're pretty much right on who you put in the C tier though lol

[New Interview with the Devs.]

35 minutes ago, Arthur97 said:

Finally, some reason.

Also, no one seems to be wondering who the other "the same but unique" characters will be.

Hmm, I'm thinking that Hinoka might actually be a clone of Cordelia now. Especially because Cords has a helicopter move. I don't think it'd be hard to give Hinoka a unique moveset but she and Cords are both lance pegaponies so I don't see why they would want to spend that extra time on Hinoka.

[New Interview with the Devs.]

3 minutes ago, The DanMan said:

It's not falsely hyping people up: what they said is technically true, after all.

Not really. We saw 7 characters at E3 and they called that 20%. If the roster size is really 25, then 7 would be more like 28%, closer to 30% than 20%. And if they can make 23 movesets for HW, I don't see why they could only make 2 more for this game and brag about how many characters they put in. The difference of 5 being 20% and 7 being 20% is 10 whole characters. It's falsely hyping people up because there's no reason to use 5 as 20% when we saw 7 characters. I'd be pretty disappointed if they were just making it bigger than what it actually is.

[New Interview with the Devs.]

26 minutes ago, The DanMan said:

7 is close to 5, which is 20% of 25. Of course they'd round down a bit to make it look like there's more; I don't think this statement changes a thing.

This may be true, but I think it's more than 25 due to two things;

1. The base roster of HW included 20 different weapons, therefore 20 different movesets. 25 is a really good number for Fire Emblem Warriors, but I think that because they're stressing and mentioning that FEW will have a real big roster that it'd be more than a 5 weapon difference than Hyrule Warriors. Also, the villains were added as free DLC not long after HW released, that makes it 23. So I think that because they had that many movesets for HW, and IIRC they weren't hyping up that game's roster size, they'll probably have around 30 (may be more; may be less) for this game because they're actually hyping up this game's roster size.

2. They know how much the roster means to fans. In another interview it was said that even developers of the game were upset at the limitations (only being able to pick from SD, Awakening and Fates), and that some of them even threatened to quit. Not to mention how in this interview they said they had debates over some characters, Lucina especially, they know that the roster is a controversial subject and really important to fans of the three games. I don't think they'd try to falsely hype us up over the size of the roster.

[New Interview with the Devs.]

2 minutes ago, FoxyGrandpa said:

Colosseum mode seems like it will be p. cool. Still hoping that a mode w/ standard FE gameplay makes it into the final game somehow.

Based on the interview, it looks like we are getting 25 to 30 characters, which is a pretty good amount. And it seems like there will be a fair amount of characters from all three games, which I'm pretty happy about.

*Insert generic complaint about all games in the series not being representative"

From the way Hayashi worded it ("just about 20% of the whole content" and at the time we had 7 characters) there's a chance it might even go past 30, which would be amazing.

[Cordelia and F!Robin comfirmed for Warriors from Famitsu Preview]

1 minute ago, Arthur97 said:

Well, as I said, the recognition is great. Clone or semi clone though, I'd rather she was separate. 

May I ask why? I think it'd be pretty tedious having to level up what is essentially the same character twice.

[Roster question/speculation?]

2 minutes ago, Anacybele said:

Koei apparently likes joke characters too, which Agitha is. And they do go by popularity, as I heard that they did polls all the time for the other Warriors games and that was the main reason why the rosters for some of them were picked.

As far as I know, Agitha wasn't a joke character but rather a developer favorite. That's why she got in. Hyrule Warriors didn't really have a joke character.

[Roster question/speculation?]

Just now, Anacybele said:

Correction: MOSTLY on SD, Awakening, and Fates. So Ike and Roy have a fair shot and really should be playable.

I expect Ike and Roy to be in because they're popular and have Amiibo, not just because they have Amiibo.

They could have used mostly in regards to there being multiple OC characters, so the focus would be spread on SD, Awakening, Fates, and Rowan/Lianna's world. Regardless, I don't think Ike and Roy are still that likely because if it's just those two that are outside the Shadow Dragon/Fates/Awakening triangle, why not package them as DLC? They are a business, after all.

You can expect any characters you want. I'm not the person to tell you you can't, as I'm personally hoping for all 10 royals, but it wouldn't be surprising if Ike and Roy weren't included. amiibo really doesn't mean anything imho, considering they got theirs through Smash and not this game. If Ike happens to get in, cool. If he doesn't, I won't be shocked.

[Roster question/speculation?]

Just now, Anacybele said:

Yes, and IS is overseeing this game too, because it's a Fire Emblem related game. Ike and Roy HAVE to be playable or else face a lot of fan rage.

It would've been a lot of work to update the game just for one or two Amiibo. Same reason Roy was not made compatible with Fates. they'd have to get him his own model and a voice actor and skills and all. I'm not sure what Corrin would've done, but Corrin came out so long after Fates that it was pointless. DLC for the game was done and everything.

I think Amiibo do matter when they're popular characters whose Amiibo have been usable in other FE games which allowed them to be playable.

The game is focused on Shadow Dragon, Awakening and Fates. No one outside of those three games has to be playable. Why? Because they're from games that aren't being focused on. Fan rage on the internet aren't going to make them add additional characters they did not plan for.

You say it'll be a lot of work to update the game for just a few amiibo but they did it with Mario Party 10 and Splatoon (which I just explained in my last post). Sometimes they feel the need to go back and update the game for the new amiibo, sometimes they don't. I'm just saying this shows that amiibo don't matter as much as you think they do. Roy and Ike may have been playable via amiibo in other FE games, but that's other FE games. This is a new spinoff that is specifically focusing on three games, those three being games that Roy and Ike do not appear in. Characters in Fire Emblem are nowhere near as complex as characters in Warriors. It's silly to expect characters to get in because they have a physical figurine.

[Roster question/speculation?]

Just now, Anacybele said:

It would be ridiculous. The Amiibo are already available and were usable in other FE related games and even a NON FE game in Codename Steam. They're going to add the characters as DLC at least because they're popular FE characters.

You DO realize the Corrin Amiibo came out WAY after Fates was released, don't you? Even after Fates DLC was done. Those other Mario Amiibo also came out AFTER Mario Party 10 did. I don't know about MK8 Deluxe though, that is pretty silly, though none of those are particularly popular or notable characters. But that's a different game from a different developer anyway.

Ike and Roy are very popular and definitely warrant an appearance in FE Warriors at least as DLC.

Yeah, the amiibo are usable in other games. But that doesn't mean they have to be usable in this one and they have to get you a playable character. I never said they couldn't be DLC either. The FE amiibo were usuable in Codename Steam because that game was developed by the same people, Intelligent Systems.

Yes, I realize the Corrin amiibo released long after Fates. They could still had gone back and done a little update or something though but they didn't care. When they went back and did more amiibo for Splatoon (Callie and Marie) they made them do something. Also, the Mario series Rosalina, Donkey Kong and Wario came out on the same day as Daisy and Waluigi, 11/04/2016, yet the first three were compatible and Daisy and Waluigi were not. Keep in mind Mario Party 10 released in March 2015, and even though a year and a half had passed they still made the new amiibo do something. And I don't know about you, but Waluigi and Daisy are VERY popular, I'd have to say probably the most popular spinoff characters for the Mario series. This just proves that amiibo don't guarantee an appearance in something.

I never said Ike and Roy shouldn't ever be in Warriors, personally I wouldn't care either way. I'm just saying amiibo don't matter at all when it comes to a game's roster.

[Roster question/speculation?]

Just now, Anacybele said:

It would be ridiculous if their Amiibo were usable in the game, but the characters not playable. Especially since Ike is super popular. There'd be a lot of rage if he wasn't playable, and yet you can use his Amiibo with the game. The many Roy fans would be equally upset.

It wouldn't be ridiculous at all. A lot of work goes into making a playable character. They're not going to add in an extra 4 characters because "amiibo".

There's been a lot of strange compatibility mishaps regarding amiibo too. The Corrin amiibo wasn't compatible with Fates lol. Daisy and Waluigi weren't compatible in Mario Party 10. All of the new Mario amiibo (Daisy, Waluigi, Boo, Diddy Kong) aren't compatible in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, but the Splatoon amiibo are.

1 minute ago, Hardin said:

Rage on the internet? Damn, I guess they have no choice then. 

And also this.

[Roster question/speculation?]

39 minutes ago, Anacybele said:

Except they CAN be used for the game and on top of that, no Amiibo were specifically made for HW either. Not to mention that every Zelda character that got an Amiibo were playable in HW, including Toon Link who got to be in HW Legends.

So yes, Amiibo do matter.

Just because they can be used in the game doesn't mean that they're guaranteed an appearance. There are amiibo that were made for use with Fire Emblem Warriors - Chrom and Tiki. That's the difference. Roy, Ike, etc. got their amiibo through Smash and Echoes. Chrom and Tiki got theirs through this game.

You say Toon Link got to be in Legends, yes, but that's because that they literally focused on Wind Waker for that game. The new characters (at the start) were King Daphnes, Tetra, Toon Link, Skull Kid and Linkle, the first three from Wind Waker. Toon Link didn't get in because he had an amiibo. He got in because he's a Wind Waker character and they wanted to capitalize on that game in their HW port.

Regardless, the first Zelda characters with amiibo were the Smash ones, meaning Link, Zelda, Ganondorf, Sheik and Toon Link. The first 3 are the core characters. They were guaranteed an appearance. Like I said before, Toon Link is a Wind Waker character and they focused on Twilight Princess, Skyward Sword and Ocarina of Time for Hyrule Warriors on the Wii U. Because Legends focused on WW he was definitely in. Sheik is iffy but she is literally Zelda, she wasn't that surprising to see. Also, Hyrule Warriors (for the Wii U) released a few months before amiibo did so how could they base their roster picks off of something that didn't exist yet???

amiibo has had no bearing on Hyrule Warriors or Legends, regarding their roster choices. amiibo doesn't matter.

[Roster question/speculation?]

I don't think anyone outside of Fates/Awakening/SD stands a chance of being in the game. amiibo doesn't matter because unlike Chrom and Tiki, Ike's/Roy's/Alm's/Celica's amiibo was/were not made for use with this game.

[Cordelia and F!Robin comfirmed for Warriors from Famitsu Preview]

5 hours ago, Luankachu said:

What makes you think F!Robin wouldn't get any additional skins if she was an alt for M!Robin? Cia in Hyrule Warriors always gets 3 variations for her skins: Masked, Unmasked, and Hatless. The only exceptions to that are the Guardian of Time and Majora's Mask costumes. I think they could do the same for Robin.

Personally, I hope F!Robin is an alt costume. I don't want to have to essentially level up the same character twice, even if they will probably be my mains.

Oh, she did? Huh. It just seemed to me that if we had multiple F!Robin skins for M!Robin that it'd get really cluttered and messy. I never knew Cia had 3 variations for each skin. Now I don't really see a reason why she's a clone. It will really suck having to level the same character twice.

[Cordelia and F!Robin comfirmed for Warriors from Famitsu Preview]

Female Robin makes sense as her own character because then she could have her own costumes/palette swaps/whatever. If she was an alt for Male Robin, it's likely F!Robin wouldn't have any additional skins; it'd just be one F!Robin skin for M!Robin. But because she's her own character, she can have her own costumes and not clutter up M!Robin's. But if F!Robin is actually completely unique then that'd be really stupid imho.

It sucks how we might have to basically level up Robin twice but if you can buy level-ups like in Hyrule Warriors then I don't see it being too big of a problem.