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No Braves or forges in the first round....OK
So after the first round is there a limit on them or can we have as many as we want?
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Sing me up! I will play in all of your tournies.
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Here is a link to Merric leveling up to level 2 mage over and over.
Just in the pictures there are 16 different ups that contain MAG (got many more that i didnt take pictures of)
Also shows him getting DEF 3 times as a mage. One of them he got both MAG and DEF (along with SKL, SPD, RES) at the same time.
And a good Barst level thrown in, I kept that and the 5 ups Merric got before that.
So there you go 16 MAG ups, 5 spirit dust, 3 MAG when he starts, and 1 for promotion. With that you could have a 30 MAG Merric. Plenty of levels left to be a Cav / Pal and get 15 more DEF.
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Ah, I see where my number fault came from, I took Sylvan's less than 15 Res to mean 15 Res. But in reality it could be 11 Res. 25 + 8 - 22 = 11 Res. Which is possible. I thought 25 was your Non-Dusted Magic.
Again, I have no issue with adjusting your growth rates via resetting, that's fine by me. I've done it before (Not FE11, I did it in 10). I just want to make sure the numbers all check out. That's all.
Thanks Rakath! They are all legit, as soon as I figure out how I will post some crappy cell phone pictures of Merric leveling up. These will show that even a completely green Merric is possible (except str) but you would have to waste half of the save points in the game on him to get him there, not leaving much for your other four people.
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Again, using your numbers and posts, Merric would have required a stat increase in magic for 20 out of 21 levels to get the stats you posted. Off of a 30% Growth rate (okay, there is a 40% Growth rate for the two levels before promotion, but that 10% difference on two levels is really not enough to chance my average state, if you want me to be exact I can be), which should without number manipulation only be 7 of those 21 level ups on average.
I have no issues with your manipulating the RNG to get better stats, I do have issue if you're doing something else and trying to craft a pretty story around it. As the numbers you post make very little sense with what else you say.
11 (MAG) level ups not 20
Not true, Merric starts out with 3 MAG +1 for promotion. Give him 5 spirit dusts and he is up to 14, that leaves only 11 level ups to get magic to reach the 25 MAG that my Merric has. From my earlier post your can see that Merric only needs 15 levels to green DEF. 11(MAG) + 15(DEF) =26 That leaves twelve level ups, he gets 38.
Yes my team is high above the averages, I just used map save points to beat the averages.
I respect your opinion but the average growths are easily manipulated when you reset the game and try again. And when you have a growth rate of 30% 40% (MAG) 35% (DEF) it is easy to reject bad level ups (at map save points). With those rates you would only have to try 3 times to get one. I probably averaged over 20 resets from every map save combined to level all 5 of my team. I have spent over 20 mins at one save point several times trying to get good level ups, and can usually reset 2-3 times a minute.
By looking at these numbers and adding them up you can see how I did it.
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Anyway my Merric is not the one to wonder about. My Frey greened STR and DEF before level 10 Paladin. Then class changed to a Sage to build RES. All said and done I gave him 3 stat boosts a seraph robe and 2 Talismans. He is capped in everything except MAG(5) and RES(12).
As a Cav / Pal he got all 6 possible ups for me. Not one time, multiple times probably 4 or 5 times. He seemed the easiest to level up for me. Catria geets better ups but she starts later in the game and is weaker compared to the rest of your team at the time making it harder to level her. You have to protect her too much.
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Your numbers don't make sense... you'd of needed to do that trick on Merric a lot more than just DEF wise... as you would of needed pretty much every Level up give you Magic, or at least 9 more beyond the average... Merric's Average magic is 17ish without Class swapping him away from a Mage for every level up to 18. His Average by your own words is 10.
His magic to do that damage to Sylvan's units would need to be 29.
Also, if you indeed never leveled him up without a DEF gain... he'd of gotten 20 DEF at LV13, not 18. Even with the class changes following that... you would have needed to selective Level his Magic and Defense after promotion to get a full 20 successfully.
I said by level 18 or so... I just remember that he capped out before he classed changed. You guys it is not that difficult get him and try it yourself. His growth rates as a Cavalier / Paladin are
HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
80% 15% 0% 55% 35% 45% 35% 5%
as you can see he is capable of getting all ups except magic. Thats 7 in one level up.
Just to let you know this is what he needs to cap out everything. This is the number of level ups needed in each area (promotion is figured in).
HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
34- 17- 26- 24- 18- 27- 15- 20
Now he has got 38 level ups. Use 15 for DEF that leaves 23 for MAG and you would need 2 spirit dusts to get you the rest of the way. As you know there are 5 spirit dusts in the game.
Now this is my Merris stats. more than capable of achieving (he got all my spirit dusts)
HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
55- 6- 25- 28- 25- 19- 20- 18
But wait he can and did for me get both DEF and MAG, at the same time.
As a Mage, Sage, Curate, Bishop
MAG 40%30%20%30% DEF 5%5%10%5%
Plain and simple it would be easy, but take alot of time to green him in everything. With the exception of STR that would be very hard to do.
Mine is only greened in SKL, SPD, and DEF.
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You are correct Sylvan most of my team (class set 1 Frey, Caeda, Catria, and Merric) spent most of their time as Cavaliers /Paladins because they get the best strength and defense growths.
If you wanted to know about my Merric's defense all you have to do is ask. I turned him into a Cavalier /Paladin before I ever used him. Then I turned down every level up for him that didnt contain DEF, via map save point, then I tried again and again until I got it. By level 18 or so Cavalier he had maxed out DEF (20) as a Cavalier. Then back to Mage / Sage.
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All of my team have the highest growth rates. Making it as easy as possible to get the best growth. I am also constantly class changing to get the growths where I need them.
These are their total base % added up and you wont find any people with higher % Except Wolf
Class Set 2
Sedgar (Wolf is 10 points higher but Sedgar gets 2 extra level ups)
HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
120 60 5 80 60 30 80 0 = 435
Class Set 1
Catria
HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
30 35 0 60 40 40 15 5 = 225
Frey
HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
40 20 5 30 45 45 5 5 = 195
Caeda
HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
10 10 5 40 60 70 0 0 = 195
Merric (Est is higher at 190 but Merric is the highest Magic user)
HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
40 0 10 30 25 45 20 10 = 180
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Players name: Blk Knight
Team name: Eclipse, Nihil
Spotted by: Sylvan
Reason: Units with impossibly high stats. Admitted to RNG abuse which gives the same result as hacking.
This is funny. I spend hundreds of hours playing the game trying to get good level ups and this is cheating?
No cheating is involved at all. I just spend a lot of time trying to make the best team possible. Sylvan I am sorry that I beat you a couple of times. But your teams stats are way to high also to say that you dont throw out crappy level ups and try it again sometimes.
And what about all your brave weapons 2 for most of your players is it now cheating to spend a ton of hours in the arena to get money to forge all those brave weapons.
All I have done is spend time building a good team, just like you (mine is just better).
So what does everybody think is it cheating, when you spend alot of time trying to build up your team?
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Hmm, I'm back online, but I'm having trouble joining your room Blk Knight. It just says unable to join room and kicks me back to the waiting room.
That was a good game I thought you were never going to capture the castle.
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When anyone finishes/opens room, I am up for a match.
Add me and we can play. I sent you a PM
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Im online now. I'll be hosting a room if anyone wants to join.
GG Why the disconnect?
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I have added everyone listed here.
If anyone is interested in a challenge feel free to add me.
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I will be able to play on either day so it doesn't matter to me which day it will be. 5 Eastern is the very earliest that I will be able to start though.