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I'm pretty sure Hasechi was actually talking about the video I posted of Record of Grancrest War, which was animated by A-1 Pictures. Yeah; even I'll admit that Black Clover's animation wasn't the most consistent when it began, but that was less because of Studio Perriot in-of-itself and more because of Studio Perriot putting all its eggs in the much more marketable Boruto basket and leaving the Black Clover animation team overworked, understaffed and seriously underfunded. You know those those dumb, "When the animators are paid/fed" jokes that people make about anime fight scenes? Well, sadly, those jokes had a ring of truth to them in the case of Black Clover for a fair bit of time. Fortunately, it hasn't stopped them from churning out some amazing works of animation, and the most recent arc in particular has been able to churn out consistently good animation thanks to an increase in funding and animators, many of whom incidentally started off as fans of Black Clover. That fight scene that I posted, in addition to being animated by the main Black Clover animation team, was largely animated by Black Clover fans, with it having been their first time in professional animating. The show's also soon going to be going on hiatus for a while to keep from overtaking the manga. Anyway, onto reviewing the video above mine: reminds me of watching this movie in high school English class. Here's a Black Clover fight scene that you won't see in the manga because it's from an anime-canon episode (not filler, anime-canon):

Okay. Before you quit though, could you please look over what I said about Kris, Robin, Corrin and Byleth? I see. That makes sense.

…How did a topic about avatars end up talking about Shadows of Valentia? And could someone please reply to what I said about Kris, Robin, Corrin and Byleth? Is this really headcanon? I figured it was just something you were supposed to infer given, as you pointed out, the boost when the student is being trained in a subject that Byleth's higher-ranked in, especially since the other professors have no real-world combat experience and they teach their students just fine.

It's a really good show; it's seriously underrated in the sense that not many watched it when it first released, but it has a pretty good story and interesting characters and such. Plus it's one of very few anime where the protagonist and the leading lady are actually open and honest about their feelings and get together relatively early on in the show (so none of those dumb clichés like the protagonist being extremely dense or anything like that). Anyway, since I'm replying to you, I may as well review the video you posted. Good music, I don't really understand what's going on since I've never played Street Fighter, but now I think I know where the Iron Fist Netflix show got the inspiration for the black-ink-&-smoke effect in its opening. I mean; besides wanting to do something similar to the red fluid in the Daredevil opening obviously. Now for the moment you've all been waiting for me to post; please bear in mind that this is only one small piece of a several-minute-long epic fight:

The only Markiplier videos I've seen before were him playing various Mario Maker levels, so this was interesting... /10 Even though a truly epic fight just happened in the most recent of Black Clover and I'd love to show you all some of the truly incredible animation, the last couple videos I've posted have been about Black Clover, so I think I'll post something else this time:

I'd say it all depends on what we're talking about. All 4 avatars (I'm excluding Mark and Kiran for two reasons: they has no gameplay involvement and we never see them) have shared some major flaws: the biggest one being that they're built like something halfway between a fixed protagonist and a custom protagonist and having the worst of both as a result. Ultimately, it ends up being a case of pick-your-poison: Kris is easily the most "custom" of the avatars, at least in terms of gameplay: no unique classes or unique weapons and they the most flexible base-stat & growth-rate modifier system. However, not only do they have the same problem as Robin & Corrin of you have no say in the things they say or do beyond the other characters (outside of stat-checks and putting on headgear), Kris quite literally steals moments from other characters and manages to be rather obstructive in general. Ultimately, in terms of gameplay, they're the closest thing I'd want to a custom protagonist as far as gameplay customization is concerned, but their character and plot needs a lot of work. Robin's main advantage is that they're the least obtrusive of the four characters, to the point where it can be easy to forget that they even are supposed to be custom characters; instead, they come across more as just bland fixed characters. You customize their appearance and gameplay at the start, and then you can just forget that they even are an avatar. Even their plot-involvement is mainly as a supporting protagonist & strategist, and when they do have their own plot importance, it comes across as that of a fixed character with a stake in events, rather than "Oh, your OC is so special and important! And are you feeling serviced yet, fans?" But, as a result, they'd almost be better off simply being a fixed character. You'd lose some things from that change, but not as many as you'd think, and I think the pros would outweigh the cons. Though I doubt it would get rid of the blandness considering, well, just look at Chrom… Corrin probably has it the worst; they're too unique to work as a custom character in either gameplay or story, yet the plot wraps itself around that in a way that very much comes off as, "You, the player, are the center of everything that matters! Everyone loves you except for people with problems, and you're vital to the state of the world!" It's all so OC do-not-steal despite not even being a fanfiction. Corrin's one advantage is a rather shallow one: it's something TV Tropes calls Instant Awesome: Just Add Dragons. And even that was badly underutilized. Byleth is very weird. You'd look at the limited customization, their uniqueness, and their plot relevance, and think that they're a fixed protagonist that you're simply guiding, like Geralt of Rivia from The Witcher games or Link from the later 3D Zelda games. Even their dialogue options would make them no more custom than Geralt. But then they still have the choice of name and birthday and such, they still have the blandness, and where Geralt and Link's dialogue options were all still in-character in their respective games, Byleth's dialogue options seem written more with a custom character in mind than a fixed character that we're guiding. As a result, Byleth manages to be more obstructive than Robin (though not nearly as much as Robin). That said, I can't deny the sheer amount of immersive opportunities Byleth is able to provide simply from being professor. You're actually there, interacting with these units, guiding them and helping them grow. I think, by process of elimination, Kris is the best at actually being a custom character, while Robin is the best at being an non-obstructive character, and Byleth has the most immersive potential. So it all depends on which pros you like the most, and which cons you dislike the least. What do you guys think of this?

I feel like I'd answer, "What was the context?" But part of that's probably my autism.

You'll probably really enjoy Noelle from Black Clover then, now that I think about it. She's actually a really well-written example, now that I think about it. I personally find some of her Tsundere antics more annoying than anything else, but I can't deny that her nature as a Tsundere is tied to her character development and there are some small moments that do manage to get a chuckle out of me. Plus, she's just a really well-written character in general and, unlike at least a few female leads in shonen anime, she actually keeps up with the male leads in terms of power and skill, to the point where one of the meme nicknames for her is "The Anti-Sakura."

…So Kris would basically be elevated to the dizzying heights of having nothing about them that's worse than the other FE avatars?

I see. Thanks. I was concerned that I might've phrased some things poorly or something like that. Yeah; I can see that. I think Obito's speech still would've been effective via all the shinobi dying around Naruto via the Ten Tails, so you're right that either character's death could've worked. I guess another reason I prefer the idea of Hiashi being the one to die would be that it would've also tied into another idea that Naruto Shippuden was exploring: what you leave behind for the next generation. Going back to Naruto vs Neji compared to Alm vs Berkut and whether or not you can escape what society decides you're worth, while Naruto vs Neji is definitely the superior one and just a really good example, I think the best version that I've seen in terms of just sheer level of conflict, struggle and especially social-class defiance would be Asta from Black Clover: Granted, he didn't grow up alone like Naruto did; he was raised in a church and had five foster-siblings and two sort-of parental figures, but his place in his society, being a peasant orphan and the only human in their world with no magic whatsoever, is that he's the biggest loser in the Clover Kingdom and that he's pretty much worthless. Only his foster-brother Yuno actually believed in him. If Neji ranted off at Asta about being unable to fight fate, Asta would probably just mention that he's heard it all before from almost everyone around him. His reason for wanting to become the Wizard King? To prove that it's even possible for someone like him and hopefully tear down the elitism in the Clover Kingdom by proving that the downtrodden are worth more than people realize. "I'm someone who was born without any magic. But even so, I'm going to become the Wizard King, and I'm alive... to prove it!" His never giving up? Almost everyone he encounters assumes that it's out of naiveté, when the truth is actually the opposite: he knows full-well what the bleak reality is, and he presses on regardless simply because it's better than giving up. All his shouting like a typical shonen protagonist, for ones like Naruto, it's to present a boisterous façade, but for Asta, it's for himself; it's to pump himself up to keep going. He even made a promise to himself that the one time he almost gave up; the time he found out he had no magic at all, would be the last time he ever lets himself get depressed. He literally forces himself to be optimistic and anti-nihilistic in the face of sheer pressure to become nihilist. His powers? He gets a grimoire with 3 swords and anti-magic, none of which negate him being born without magic; they only enable him to stand a chance in the ring and potentially level the playing field. He still can't sense magic like those with magic can (but the converse is also true: they can't sense him through magic-sensing), and he can only use the anti-magic because he has no magic, all it does is simply enable him to nullify magic, and he has to use it through the swords. As for the swords, there is a history behind them and they were once used by a great hero, but the reasons only Asta can use them are that he spent years training his muscles and one of the swords passively absorbs magic around it, including the wielder's. As one character says, "There is nothing special about you at all... but that's exactly what makes you special." His parents? Surely when his parents are revealed, they'll turn out to be royalty! Okay; what about his mentors? Well, he has two: Fanzell Kruger and Captain Yami. Fanzell Kruger is a former Diamond Kingdom solder & military instructor who defected and is in hiding in the Clover Kingdom. In other words, he's an outcast and not really anyone special. Captain Yami of the Black Bulls was ostracized for being a foreign castaway who ended up in the Clover Kingdom because his fishing boat got caught in a storm. So, Asta's a peasant trained by outcasts. Hm... There isn't really an antagonist that stands out in presenting a conflict of whether or not you can fight the bounds society places on you, as pretty much all of them tell him he can't succeed, so there isn't rely a Neji for this comparison... I suppose the two closest thing would be Langris in the Royal Knights exam arc, but I can't say anything about that without spoilers. I realize that this is a bit of a tangent, but I just thought it worth mentioning as sort-of another example for comparison.

True. I was only conceding that BrightBow's still right about it contradicting Naruto previously not being privileged power-wise, and even then I pointed out that he only gets the power during the Madara fight and he loses the power afterward as he's lost the sage orbs and he blew up the healing arm when fighting Sasuke. By the way, what did you think of the other points that I brought up (both the ones to add to your argument and the ones that were in response to BrightBow)? True, but on the other hand, you could look at it as a comparison between a video game remake (in other words, something that had another chance to refine its narrative) against a manga/anime arc from the early 2000s. Indeed; that's kind-of the point: Alm contradicts himself in a way that Naruto doesn't (despite what some like BrightBow and the guy who made the Naruto: the Self-Made Hypocrite video on YouTube that somehow has a ton of views, would try to argue). Interesting view on that. I will just say that the narrative seemed to be building towards Hiashi (Hinata's dad and Neji's uncle) being the one who would die, given how the characters were developing, him choosing Neji to lead the Hyuga Clan in the war effort, and moments like Hiashi fighting the zombie of his brother and telling him that things are beginning to change for the better for the Hyuga Clan. It really seemed to be building towards Hiashi dying and leaving the fate of the clan to Neji, who would then reform it, and that would've still carried that revisiting of the destiny idea with Hiashi dying while protecting his branch-family nephew and Neji being the one to change things for the Hyuga Clan. Honestly, I probably would've preferred Hiashi being the one to die (from a narrative standpoint) and Neji being the one to live. But, as I said, either would've carried this revisit of that idea of destiny.

I could actually see a Black Clover Warriors game in that I at least can see a lot of the different characters as different fighters (some of these examples involve spoilers): But, there is one thing I'm having trouble seeing, and that's the hundreds upon hundreds of faceless goons for the fighters to bring down like it's nothing. Black Clover doesn't really have any mobs of enemies that would really fit; the Eye of the Midnight Sun are the main villains of the first main saga and they have only 54 members: 50 humans, the Third Eye, and Licht. I suppose there's the Diamond Kingdom and the Spade Kingdom forces, but the manga isn't even done the arc where they fight the Spade Kingdom yet, so that just leaves the Diamond Kingdom. But the Diamond Kingdom, while a recurring foe, were never really the biggest threat. Only two of their appearances would be large-scale enough for a Warriors game, and both happen in the same arc.

I can honestly say, when I first saw the title of this, my first thought was, "What? How exactly are Alm & Naruto and Berkut & Neji comparable exactly?" Now it makes sense. Honestly, the only similarity I could think of between Neji and Berkut was both of them feeling betrayed by their uncles. Some interesting points I just thought I'd add: 1. One more difference is that the shy blue-haired girl is on Naruto's side in Naruto whereas she's on Berkut's side in SoV. Not really important, but I just thought it worth pointing out because it's funny. 2. One thing to add to this: Hinata also noticed his hypocrisy and called him out on it during their fight; thus getting the last word in, and it's her picking up on this and pointing it out to him that drives him to almost kill her. 3. Eh... that's something the dub has Naruto say: "I failed the academy test three times; always on the shadow clone jutsu", but it's incorrect: the jutsu that the academy kept testing them on was the basic clone jutsu; shadow clone jutsu was the jutsu he learned from the scroll of forbidden jutsu. It still applies though as the only reason he stole the scroll in the first place was that Mizuki used his loneliness and failure at the test to trick him into stealing it. I'd say that problem applies for Alm vs Berkut, but not in the case of Naruto vs Neji. Naruto is still a societal outcast at the point in the story where he fights Neji; he's hated by almost all the adults, and he's looked down on as a loser by almost all the kids. The Nine-Tails is the very thing that made him an outcast in the first place, so him using its power to win doesn't interfere with the case he's making but in fact supports it. Also, unlike with Alm being viewed as a peasant, Naruto being a social outcast isn't changed by him being the son of the 4th Hokage; he's still the Nine-Tails Jinchuriki: he's still a living Nuclear Bomb Metaphor and prison for a creature that nearly destroyed the village, and those are the things that made him downtrodden within society. Furthermore, the reveal that Alm is Rudolf's son additionally comes loaded with the reveal that he's literally been groomed for carrying out a long-term plan to free Valentia of Duma & Mila's influence, rendering all of Alm's achievements moot as they're the achievements of a destined crown prince who's been unwittingly groomed to be one, whereas Naruto had no such grooming. Sure, he does get trained by two people who knew his parents (Kakashi being Minato's former pupil and Jiraiya being Minato's former sensei), but they aren't grooming him to succeed Minato or anything like that; they're just looking after the son of someone who was dear to them personally. Plus, almost none of what they've taught him actually comes into play in the Neji fight; best summed up by Naruto himself before the fight when he hears people talking about Neji's skills and he thinks to himself, "But it's okay because now I can summon a frog." As for that second paragraph, uh... what? Minato didn't come from any blessed bloodlines; Minato was just a guy. He became the 4th Hokage through hard work and creativity: combining his knife-throwing skills and his wife's sealing jutsu techniques with an old teleportation jutsu to become the fastest shinobi alive, and the only things Naruto inherited from his dad were blonde hair and unorthodox creativity; Naruto didn't even inherit Minato's intellect; everyone who knew Naruto's parents note that he's a lot more like Kushina than Minato. Speaking of Kushina, yes; you could argue that Naruto is somewhat "privileged" abilities-wise in inheriting the vast chakra reserves of someone of the Uzumaki clan. The thing is, most of that chakra goes towards maintaining the seal on the Nine-Tails, so he can't even use a majority of it. Plus, the Uzumaki clan were a small clan that got nearly wiped out, with its survivors scattered across different nations, and Kushina herself was something of a social outcast as she was forcibly brought into the village specifically to be the next Nine-Tails Jinchuriki. So, we have Naruto: an outcast who is the son of both an outcast and an ordinary guy who became of high-rank through skill and ingenuity. And as for, "and by extension the bloodlines of all previous hokage" what? Naruto isn't blood-related to any of the previous Hokages except Minato. The only descendant of the first two Hokages is Tsunade and the only descendant of the Third is Konohamaru. Okay; the reincarnation thing was dumb and I'll give you that one, but he didn't gain any powers or standing from it until the Sage of Six Paths gave him some of his power during the fight with Madara.

Yeah; it is sad. I didn't mind it too much in the case of OR/AS, but that's probably because I never played Emerald. The most significant divergence in Platinum's story compared to Diamond/Pearl is that Cyrus uses the Red Chain to control both Dialga and Palkia, so the Lake Legendaries aren't able to counteract the Red Chain. Cyrus' attempt to remake the world, however, causes enough distortions to tear open a hole to the Torn World, out of which Giratina emerges, disrupts the evil plan and drags Cyrus in. However, the hole remains, and that will destroy the world if it isn't sealed, so you and Cynthia jump into the hole. You fight Cyrus one more time, fight and capture/defeat Giratina, and you restore things back to normal before being teleported to the entrance of the weird cave where you find Giratina in Diamond/Pearl. Thanks. The fact that I'm remembering Platinum more than Diamond despite having more nostalgia for Diamond should say enough. That could work, though if they do that, could they add snowshoes to make walking through the snow less annoying?

Yeah, I know. I'm pretty sure I misremembered it as having snow as well. I was also like, "Why isn't the male protagonist wearing a winter coat? Why's he wearing short sleeves?" Then I checked and the winter coat was only in Platinum. Similarly, the rival's striped shirt was long-sleeved in Platinum and short-sleeved in Diamond/Pearl. The funny thing is that they wanted the Sinnoh region to be distinctly cold and temperate compared to the previous three regions since they based Sinnoh on the Island of Hokkaido. The Platinum version definitely reflects that better aesthetically than Diamond/Pearl did. Personally, for a Diamond/Pearl remake, I would've had the protagonists' outfits be something in-between their Diamond/Pearl versions and their Platinum versions, but, personally, I would've gone for a Platinum remake rather than a Diamond/Pearl remake because, as much as I enjoyed Diamond as a kid, Platinum is easily the superior version in gameplay, aesthetic/atmosphere and story. Speaking of story, one thing I really liked about Platinum especially was how involved the champion Cynthia was in the plot. She was mysterious, but she had clear goals and agency. She explained a lot of the region's lore to the player, but in a way that felt natural and didn't feel like an info dump. She'd appear every now and then and help you out, but she didn't stick around too long; keeping things relatively enigmatic. When it came time to face her as the champion, it had a lot more weight. If they add in the Torn World stuff as postgame content like the Delta Episode of OR/AS did for the Emerald story content, I'm just concerned that the plot will still be Diamond/Pearl plot and stuff like Cynthia's involvement and the Torn World won't have the same weight.

Considering how big a financial success Age of Calamity was for them, I predict that they're going to keep milking it for a little while at least. As you said, they've already announced one smaller expansion pass that's basically two new characters and some new levels, and my prediction is that it won't be the last one; a second expansion will be announced before they announce anything else. I hope that at least one expansion of the game will be an "original timeline" campaign where we actually get the direct prequel to Breath of the Wild that was advertised, but I don't think that's very likely to happen.

1. Yeah; I don't understand the appeal either. Ottservia's probably explained it to me several times now and I'm still not sure I get it. The two examples I can think of where I actually liked a Tsundere character were cases where it was tied to their character development: they start out constantly berating and insulting, and then become more affectionate after character development. Those two examples were Midna from Twilight Princess and Riley Miller from Valkyria Chronicles 4. 2. I can agree that that one's definitely one of those, "If you're going to write it at all, write it well" tropes. I enjoy it when it's done well, but it can easily be done poorly. Incidentally, I recently had to read a story that's probably one of the ones that started this trope: Lanval. It's a 12th Century romance about an Arthurian Knight who's down on his luck and socially forgotten until he ends up in a secret relationship with a lady of the fay. One reason it works is that the romance is intentionally lopsided: the story's a critique of the courtly world in the High Middle Ages, and the fay lady is presented by the story as something outside and beyond the courtly society. 3. Yeah; I completely agree. Ending up in a magical world has a ton of potential; shame it's largely used for pandering and harem stuff. One story I've actually seen use that potential is also the first anime I ever actually saw almost in full: Spider Riders.

That's literally what I said: "...That one is even worse because […] they're not friends" I see. I can certainly see that interpretation. I will just point out one more moment that I thought worth mentioning (the last two lines of their A-support). Remember how Elincia always overly-formally refers to Ike as "my lord Ike", and Ike usually refers to her as "princess" or "princess Elincia" and once simply called her "Elincia" when yelling at Empress Sanaki (leading Elincia to lightly tease him about it afterward). In their A-support, this happens: Ike: You employed me as a mercenary. I’ll give you your money’s worth! …No. It means more than that… To my last breath, I will do all that I can to ensure your dream…Elincia. Elincia: Oh, Ike… Okay; I'll rephrase my statement. How's this: "only that one's even worse because not only is there no evidence for it in the story, but they weren't even friends; they were originally former bully-victim and former bully to said victim respectively. and Bakugo even told Deku to jump off a building in the first episode. Speaking as a former victim of bullying, I think I can safely say that those shippers should seriously re-evaluate what they're saying, because that's just, for lack of a better word, wrong." Also, as an aside, can I just say that the shonen battle anime trope of making the rival essentially a bully in all but name (and in Bakugo's case a bully in all including name) towards the protagonist and then expect us to later by that they're somehow actually friends now (without said bully ever actually apologizing for their behaviour until well after the audience is expected to buy that they're friends now) is a trope that I've grown extremely annoyed by in my 2 years of finally watching anime. Speaking as a former victim of bullying, I just can't buy it most of the time, and I was extremely relieved when Black Clover did pretty much the opposite by making Yuno a foster-brother and dear friend of Asta from the get-go, to the point where they're friendly and brotherly rivalry where they actually build each other up and support each other while still competing is easily one of my favourite things about the show.

1. I suppose, but that's supplementary material, and I usually don't count supplementary material unless that material is reinforced by something present in the game itself. I even outright said, "The games suggest nothing about Ike and Soren's dynamic other than a strong friendship." 2. A lot of the reason for the Ike x Elincia ship is the well-written chemistry between them in the NA localization, and that particular localization definitely implied romantic development between Ike and Elincia. There's enough romantic implication in the air in that version that even other characters suspect there's something going on between them (or at least joke about it). For just one example in chapter 23 when Ike and Elincia are talking to each other about how they'll soon be back in Crimea: Ike: For me, too, Crimea is my homeland. We're almost there... Let's go home. Elincia: It is as you say, my lord Ike....Let's go home. Ranulf: Oooh, what a romantic setting. Makes it hard to make an appearance! I guess I could just leave you two... Ike: Huh? I know that voice... Considering that what I hear from people who've played direct translations of the original Japanese version of the game is that Ike and Elincia's chemistry in their interactions is that of robots or planks of wood, I can see why people greatly prefer the NA localization in this regard. Plus, even outside of the NA localization, as one person pointed out to me a long time ago on this forum, the ending cutscene has Ike and Elincia hold hands as they go out to greet the Crimean citizens. It's not much, but holding hands like that is usually used as a bit of ship tease in stories so it does raise that suggestion. 3. Ike being Asexual is certainly a decent interpretation with some amount of evidence for it, given that he doesn't end up with anyone by the end of Radiant Dawn and the original Japanese version of Path of Radiance apparently gives him a lot less chemistry with the other characters.

They're not my favourites, but overall I agree. They're probably the best-written (or at least least-badly written) of the series' canon pairings. If only Radiant Dawn had carried on from the NA localization of Path of Radiance instead of pairing Elincia with her bland foster-brother Geoffrey. I agree that it is obvious how much they cared for/loved each other. Even Ike noticed it. The games suggest nothing about Ike and Soren's dynamic other than a strong friendship. It's just that it's a strong friendship between two people in modern media, so naturally a vocal minority of the fanbase ships them. It's the FE equivalent of the vocal Deku x Bakugo shipping crowd from My Hero Academia (only that one's even worse because not only is there no evidence for it in the story, but they're not friends; they're former bully-victim and former bully to said victim respectively. Speaking as a former victim of bullying, I think I can safely say that those shippers should seriously re-evaluate what they're saying, because that's just, for lack of a better word, wrong.)

@ciphertul I should've predicted you'd show up eventually on this thread; it is afterall a thread involving someone saying something positive about Record of Grancrest War and recommending it to others, so I should've realized that your appearance would be inevitable. I'm not saying that to mean anything negative; just that I should've been able to predict it. That out of the way, anyway: Ah, yes; the Theo vs Milza fight. That was the cathartic moment I was talking about earlier. Eh; as cool as it might've been to have Siluca assist, I think it makes the most sense that it was a one-on-one fight. This was personal for Theo after all, and since Milza was basically trying to spite Theo and Theo was his main target as a result, Theo accepting Milza's challenge protects everyone else. It's honestly my favourite fight in the entire show; so much character, theming, and clever & meaningful imagery is on display throughout it. Throughout the whole show, Milza looked down on Theo and refused to see him as a worthy ally or opponent because Theo's ideology (protecting the people is what's important) runs completely counter to his own (leaders' ambitions and ruthlessness are what's important), and now, backed into a corner by the very person he sees as inferior, he refuses to accept defeat and see a world where Theo's ideology prospers, and he does one last-ditch effort to bring victory. At every turn in the fight, we see Milza make one more attempt to spite Theo only for Theo to thoroughly defeat him again and again. First, Theo plays to his own strengths and fights defensively, seeking to tire out Milza upon observing that, even though he (Milza) absorbed Villar's crest, he's actually weaker than he was before as he's had to give out scores of subjugated crests to his men in order to hold onto Altirk. After exhausting the former juggernaut, Theo then points out to Milza that he's already been defeated as all his men have already surrendered and yielded. Milza stubbornly and desperately cries out, "I will never be defeated!" only to then get disarmed by Theo and fall to his knees. Theo, now standing over Milza, asks once, "Your crest, or your life?" as a formality, and Milza refuses to beg for his life. As the sword is plunged into Milza's throat, Milza desperately tries to rise to his feet, refusing to die on his knees to Theo Cornaro, but Theo simply withdraws the sword and Milza falls flat on his back. Plus, you know, good music and atmosphere, and some decent choreography.

I remembered one other moment that managed to bring tears to my eyes; this time from a video game: The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker.

Well, as I said, at around episode... 19 I think; you'll be in for a very cathartic moment.

1. Okay; just making sure. Interestingly, you're the first I've seen to be angry at that scene in a positive way; I've seen many dislike the scene and use it as a point against show; you're the first I've seen to dislike it and use it as a point in the show's favour, if that makes sense. 2. Cool that you're happy with that; funny how two of the three scenes that the show's most well-known for happen in episode 9 (the third is the scene of the purple-haired girl kissing that enemy soldier before proceeding to attempt to strangle him in episode 2). You're correct about the two scenes having been put in the same episode to juxtapose each other; they apparently weren't juxtaposed like that in the light novels. 3. I see. It's really good, and I hope you'll be able to watch it with your friend once the epidemic's over. Incidentally, a story about recovery and moving forward will be a very fitting show to watch.

Ah, Record of Grancrest War; such an underrated anime. Not underrated in the sense of too many people hating it, but in the sense of too few people bothering to watch it. I remember when I saw the scene you're referring to, or at least, that I think is the one you're referring to since you're talking about a scene in episode 9 that made you very angry; I lost track of all the different Fire Emblem analogies (and one Shakespeare analogy) you were using. To clarify: I honestly just fast-forwarded through it since I had already heard about it (it's rather hard to learn anything about the show online without learning about that scene). Let's just say that, it won't be until episode... 19, I think, but you are definitely in for a very cathartic moment. By the way, I know this thread is about scenes that made you angry or sad, but since you're watching Record of Grancrest War, I just have to ask: Anyway, in terms of a story that made me deeply sad/angry in a good way... I can't really think of any that made me angry in a good way (my response to that scene from Record of Grancrest War was largely just ill/unsettled, like I needed to scrub my brain with a for-the-brain equivalent of a cleaning agent), but I can think of a few that brought tears to my eyes in a good way. A particularly notable example would be another anime called Violet Evergarden: For those who haven't watched it, it takes place in a fantasy world that's just gone through its version of WW1, and it follows a young woman named, well, Violet Evergarden. All her life, all she's known is war and being a weapon, and now she's having to adjust to a peaceful life that she's never known before. She ends up becoming a ghost-writer for a postal agency (she mainly writes letters for the illiterate, and her jobs also lead her to end up helping people overcome their emotional scars) in the hopes of understanding her major's last words to her: "Violet... Live and be free. From the bottom of my heart, I love you." It is an extremely emotional show: fair warning if you decide to watch it, have a box of tissue beside you; odds are you're going to need it. If I listed every moment that brought tears to my eyes, this post would take forever to type; I know I cried at least once per episode, and it's rare for me to cry from something I saw on TV. It's not just the sad moments that will make you cry; it's the heartwarming moments as well, sometimes even more so, and it's the heartwarming moments; the healing, the newfound understanding, and the moving forward, that are the point of the show. It's just a masterpiece. …And just when I thought the show couldn't make me cry again, it made me cry again, but not in a good way: shortly after I watched it, I learned that it was made relatively-recently by Kyoto Animation studio, and then, just about a month after learning that, I learned about the fire from my sister viewing the news on her phone.