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Rules (adapted from Integrity's)
- Ratings are for Normal Mode.
- Votes need some explanation regarding their gameplay performance to be counted. If somebody else said what you want to already, quote them explicitly.
+/- ≤1 point extra regarding personality/appearance is encouraged, but no more. If you exercise your bias privileges, please do so explicitly.
- Votes are made out of 10. You cannot rate a unit above 10 or below 0.
- The rating topic will be updated whenever I feel like it, but I will try to allow at least 24 hours for each topic. They will generally be updated at around noon EST.
- A character being inferior relative to another character does not explicitly reduce their rating.
- Characters do not get credit for recruiting others or allowing access to side quests.
- Assume that the character in question is being recruited.
- Characters do not get credit for bringing items.
- I reserve the right to ignore any votes which are not well-supported.
- You may allow a character to use scrolls (and adjust their rating appropriately) so long as it is reasonable (you may debate what constitutes "reasonable" if you feel people may disagree with you). You cannot arbitrarily increase a unit's score by arguing that they may exclusively use half a dozen scrolls for themself. In general, scrolls will probably not add more than +1 to a character's overall rating.
- Warp skipping has an impact on scores in so far as "Safy has an high base staff rank". Nanna would score lower than Safy because of her lower rank, but no chapter is explicitly said to be skipped. You can't get Warp and then suddenly say every character after doesn't exist or requires turns to recruit. Something could be said of Xavier, or Conomore/Amalda who are in an escape chapter where Leaf starts next to the escape point.
Surprisingly decent compared to many units at this point in the game, for a couple of reasons. Her bases are pretty standard fare for prepromotes at this stage, being average in most of her stats, but with a movement star, leadership star, and 2 PCC which make her a bit more flexible. However, her real interesting utility comes from her weapon ranks: A Swords C Staves which allows her to uniquely (save for a Nanna who's done an extreme amount of grinding for staff rank) use a combination of Fire Sword + Status Staff to Silence or Sleep certain units in the last chapters which are above the Mag cap on magic circles. It's not a 100% necessary utility, but it can be used to make certain chapters easier, such as 24x and the final chapter. Basically, she's ok in combat, pretty good in utility, but one wishes that she joined earlier or in a chapter other than 19. 5/10
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Wasn't there a rule that recruitment couldn't be counted against a unit?
Anyway. Wrath helps his offense, as do some good weapon ranks. Unfortunately, he has bad move and while his durability would be good, there are a lot of weapons effective against armors in this game. He's decent, thanks to wrath, but he, like all armors, still has some serious issues. 4/10 -bias for his bullshit recruitment 3/10
- Warp skipping has an impact on scores in so far as "Safy has an high base staff rank". Nanna would score lower than Safy because of her lower rank, but no chapter is explicitly said to be skipped. You can't get Warp and then suddenly say every character after doesn't exist or requires turns to recruit. Something could be said of Xavier, or Conomore/Amalda who are in an escape chapter where Leaf starts next to the escape point.His recruitment sequence is so extreme that it merits mentioning.
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Rules (adapted from Integrity's)
- Ratings are for Normal Mode.
- Votes need some explanation regarding their gameplay performance to be counted. If somebody else said what you want to already, quote them explicitly.
+/- ≤1 point extra regarding personality/appearance is encouraged, but no more. If you exercise your bias privileges, please do so explicitly.
- Votes are made out of 10. You cannot rate a unit above 10 or below 0.
- The rating topic will be updated whenever I feel like it, but I will try to allow at least 24 hours for each topic. They will generally be updated at around noon EST.
- A character being inferior relative to another character does not explicitly reduce their rating.
- Characters do not get credit for recruiting others or allowing access to side quests.
- Assume that the character in question is being recruited.
- Characters do not get credit for bringing items.
- I reserve the right to ignore any votes which are not well-supported.
- You may allow a character to use scrolls (and adjust their rating appropriately) so long as it is reasonable (you may debate what constitutes "reasonable" if you feel people may disagree with you). You cannot arbitrarily increase a unit's score by arguing that they may exclusively use half a dozen scrolls for themself. In general, scrolls will probably not add more than +1 to a character's overall rating.
- Warp skipping has an impact on scores in so far as "Safy has an high base staff rank". Nanna would score lower than Safy because of her lower rank, but no chapter is explicitly said to be skipped. You can't get Warp and then suddenly say every character after doesn't exist or requires turns to recruit. Something could be said of Xavier, or Conomore/Amalda who are in an escape chapter where Leaf starts next to the escape point.
Not good by any means, but some things are worth taking a look at. Despite the fact that he's an armor, it doesn't matter as much as it could due to the large number of indoor maps left in the game (as well as chapter 20). His base stats are okay, but his defense and HP are quite high which, along with Great Shield, allow him to tank blows fairly easily. Wrath supplements his otherwise poor offense. His weapon ranks of C Swords, A Axes, A Bows are solid, allowing him to wield, among other things, the Brave Bow, which is unlikely to see use if Selphina is not fielded. All that said, though, he's extremely slow (6 speed base, really?), has no mobility whatsoever, and, perhaps most importantly, recruiting him is just terrible. It's really, really hard to justify using him when his recruitment is such a headache. Basically, his only real unique contribution is possible Brave Bow use, but it doesn't really cover all the problems he has. 2.75/10
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Rules (adapted from Integrity's)
- Ratings are for Normal Mode.
- Votes need some explanation regarding their gameplay performance to be counted. If somebody else said what you want to already, quote them explicitly.
+/- ≤1 point extra regarding personality/appearance is encouraged, but no more. If you exercise your bias privileges, please do so explicitly.
- Votes are made out of 10. You cannot rate a unit above 10 or below 0.
- The rating topic will be updated whenever I feel like it, but I will try to allow at least 24 hours for each topic. They will generally be updated at around noon EST.
- A character being inferior relative to another character does not explicitly reduce their rating.
- Characters do not get credit for recruiting others or allowing access to side quests.
- Assume that the character in question is being recruited.
- Characters do not get credit for bringing items.
- I reserve the right to ignore any votes which are not well-supported.
- You may allow a character to use scrolls (and adjust their rating appropriately) so long as it is reasonable (you may debate what constitutes "reasonable" if you feel people may disagree with you). You cannot arbitrarily increase a unit's score by arguing that they may exclusively use half a dozen scrolls for themself. In general, scrolls will probably not add more than +1 to a character's overall rating.
- Warp skipping has an impact on scores in so far as "Safy has an high base staff rank". Nanna would score lower than Safy because of her lower rank, but no chapter is explicitly said to be skipped. You can't get Warp and then suddenly say every character after doesn't exist or requires turns to recruit. Something could be said of Xavier, or Conomore/Amalda who are in an escape chapter where Leaf starts next to the escape point.
While not as bad as Shanam, Miranda is one of those units who just doesn't quite cut it. She's another late joining magic user who joins at an extremely low level with pretty poor base stats, but there are a few of these that recently showed up (Homer, Linoan, Sara) who were all usable, so lets compare. Miranda's weapon ranks are nothing interesting, her highest being Fire at C rank. Unfortunately, Fire is probably the least useful of the magic types (other than maybe dark) because it's often heavier and less common than the other types (there are quite a few Thoron, Blizzard, Bolting etc tomes in the later part of the game). Her base stats are obviously bad, and the only skill to her name is Wrath, which, while powerful, is not particularly useful in her case because her defenses are so poor that her counterattacking is extremely unlikely. She has no staff utility, as she promotes to Mage Knight instead of Sage like the others. Her growths are decent, but nothing particularly out of the park: Sara's are better in almost every stat (especially the ones that matter), and she lacks Elite. Basically, she brings nothing to the table: no special weapons, no utility, mediocre combat even when trained, which is difficult. 1/10
Also, perhaps unsurprisingly, Shanam takes up the spot as the worst unit in the game (for now).
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I haven't played his route yet but I would have guessed that bargain is more useful, considering you don't get any money. And I always had plenty of lances and axes available but swords were carried by rather few enemies and most people have to use them indoors.
Btw, does Bargain also work if you have Shanam shop on the preparations menu?
By the time you get him, though, you're already in the final part of the game where enemies are regularly carrying pretty good weapons, it's not hard to take what you need off of them. There are lots of sword wielding heroes after the route split to pilfer swords from.
It does work in the base shop.
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Rules (adapted from Integrity's)
- Ratings are for Normal Mode.
- Votes need some explanation regarding their gameplay performance to be counted. If somebody else said what you want to already, quote them explicitly.
+/- ≤1 point extra regarding personality/appearance is encouraged, but no more. If you exercise your bias privileges, please do so explicitly.
- Votes are made out of 10. You cannot rate a unit above 10 or below 0.
- The rating topic will be updated whenever I feel like it, but I will try to allow at least 24 hours for each topic. They will generally be updated at around noon EST.
- A character being inferior relative to another character does not explicitly reduce their rating.
- Characters do not get credit for recruiting others or allowing access to side quests.
- Assume that the character in question is being recruited.
- Characters do not get credit for bringing items.
- I reserve the right to ignore any votes which are not well-supported.
- You may allow a character to use scrolls (and adjust their rating appropriately) so long as it is reasonable (you may debate what constitutes "reasonable" if you feel people may disagree with you). You cannot arbitrarily increase a unit's score by arguing that they may exclusively use half a dozen scrolls for themself. In general, scrolls will probably not add more than +1 to a character's overall rating.
- Warp skipping has an impact on scores in so far as "Safy has an high base staff rank". Nanna would score lower than Safy because of her lower rank, but no chapter is explicitly said to be skipped. You can't get Warp and then suddenly say every character after doesn't exist or requires turns to recruit. Something could be said of Xavier, or Conomore/Amalda who are in an escape chapter where Leaf starts next to the escape point.
One of the worst characters in the whole game, he is pretty much terrible in almost every aspect. Despite being promoted, his stats suck, and he doesn't have as much room to grow as the other late joining units with poor stats. He has no PCC or movement stars, only C rank swords, and mediocre growths (not that they matter). His only perk is bargain, which isn't even particularly useful (there aren't a lot of circumstances where you are going to be buying from shops, most likely. He can save you a bit of cash on an emergency knight proof or some lightning/wind tomes or something), but it prevents him from getting a flat 0. .5/10
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Rules (adapted from Integrity's)
- Ratings are for Normal Mode.
- Votes need some explanation regarding their gameplay performance to be counted. If somebody else said what you want to already, quote them explicitly.
+/- ≤1 point extra regarding personality/appearance is encouraged, but no more. If you exercise your bias privileges, please do so explicitly.
- Votes are made out of 10. You cannot rate a unit above 10 or below 0.
- The rating topic will be updated whenever I feel like it, but I will try to allow at least 24 hours for each topic. They will generally be updated at around noon EST.
- A character being inferior relative to another character does not explicitly reduce their rating.
- Characters do not get credit for recruiting others or allowing access to side quests.
- Assume that the character in question is being recruited.
- Characters do not get credit for bringing items.
- I reserve the right to ignore any votes which are not well-supported.
- You may allow a character to use scrolls (and adjust their rating appropriately) so long as it is reasonable (you may debate what constitutes "reasonable" if you feel people may disagree with you). You cannot arbitrarily increase a unit's score by arguing that they may exclusively use half a dozen scrolls for themself. In general, scrolls will probably not add more than +1 to a character's overall rating.
- Warp skipping has an impact on scores in so far as "Safy has an high base staff rank". Nanna would score lower than Safy because of her lower rank, but no chapter is explicitly said to be skipped. You can't get Warp and then suddenly say every character after doesn't exist or requires turns to recruit. Something could be said of Xavier, or Conomore/Amalda who are in an escape chapter where Leaf starts next to the escape point.
A lategame caster with some interesting advantages: firstly that she starts with B rank staves, unpromoted. This is a pretty big deal, as she's 3 levels (with Elite) away from A staves and Sage promotion bonuses. This basically alone almost puts her on Sleuf's level. On top of the above, despite her poor (but workable) base stats, she has one of the best skillsets in the game: Wrath, Elite, AND Prayer, all of which make up for her statistical weaknesses to some degree. Her growth rates in Magic, Speed, and Skill are all exceptional and with the boosted EXP gain allow her to catch up in terms of combat in due time, especially considering that at this point she probably has good claim to a handful of scrolls to make up for any defensive deficiencies she may have. Additionally, she has 5 movement stars on someone who is both a staffbot and, with a bit of help, a pretty powerful combat unit. She just has everything going for her, a perfect example of an Est type character done right. 9.25/10
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Rules (adapted from Integrity's)
- Ratings are for Normal Mode.
- Votes need some explanation regarding their gameplay performance to be counted. If somebody else said what you want to already, quote them explicitly.
+/- ≤1 point extra regarding personality/appearance is encouraged, but no more. If you exercise your bias privileges, please do so explicitly.
- Votes are made out of 10. You cannot rate a unit above 10 or below 0.
- The rating topic will be updated whenever I feel like it, but I will try to allow at least 24 hours for each topic. They will generally be updated at around noon EST.
- A character being inferior relative to another character does not explicitly reduce their rating.
- Characters do not get credit for recruiting others or allowing access to side quests.
- Assume that the character in question is being recruited.
- Characters do not get credit for bringing items.
- I reserve the right to ignore any votes which are not well-supported.
- You may allow a character to use scrolls (and adjust their rating appropriately) so long as it is reasonable (you may debate what constitutes "reasonable" if you feel people may disagree with you). You cannot arbitrarily increase a unit's score by arguing that they may exclusively use half a dozen scrolls for themself. In general, scrolls will probably not add more than +1 to a character's overall rating.
- Warp skipping has an impact on scores in so far as "Safy has an high base staff rank". Nanna would score lower than Safy because of her lower rank, but no chapter is explicitly said to be skipped. You can't get Warp and then suddenly say every character after doesn't exist or requires turns to recruit. Something could be said of Xavier, or Conomore/Amalda who are in an escape chapter where Leaf starts next to the escape point.
A Staves at base is all there really needs to be said about this guy. His base magic and skill, the only stats that really matter, are also fairly decent. 3 Movement stars affords him a bit of flexibility as well. Otherwise, there's no reason for him not to be used since having staff rank is just so useful. 9/10
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Rules (adapted from Integrity's)
- Ratings are for Normal Mode.
- Votes need some explanation regarding their gameplay performance to be counted. If somebody else said what you want to already, quote them explicitly.
+/- ≤1 point extra regarding personality/appearance is encouraged, but no more. If you exercise your bias privileges, please do so explicitly.
- Votes are made out of 10. You cannot rate a unit above 10 or below 0.
- The rating topic will be updated whenever I feel like it, but I will try to allow at least 24 hours for each topic. They will generally be updated at around noon EST.
- A character being inferior relative to another character does not explicitly reduce their rating.
- Characters do not get credit for recruiting others or allowing access to side quests.
- Assume that the character in question is being recruited.
- Characters do not get credit for bringing items.
- I reserve the right to ignore any votes which are not well-supported.
- You may allow a character to use scrolls (and adjust their rating appropriately) so long as it is reasonable (you may debate what constitutes "reasonable" if you feel people may disagree with you). You cannot arbitrarily increase a unit's score by arguing that they may exclusively use half a dozen scrolls for themself. In general, scrolls will probably not add more than +1 to a character's overall rating.
- Warp skipping has an impact on scores in so far as "Safy has an high base staff rank". Nanna would score lower than Safy because of her lower rank, but no chapter is explicitly said to be skipped. You can't get Warp and then suddenly say every character after doesn't exist or requires turns to recruit. Something could be said of Xavier, or Conomore/Amalda who are in an escape chapter where Leaf starts next to the escape point.
This guy is just awesome. His base stats are solid all around, but of special notice are his base defensive stats, which actually surpass Ralph's overall, especially in terms of resistance. He can wield both swords and Thunder magic proficiently, as he has A rank in both weapons along with a D in wind which allows for him to wield basic Wind tomes if he wants the lower weight. This overall affords him extremely good offense despite not having especially good offensive stats, as he is extremely flexible with weaponry and can boster his attack with Thoron or high ranked Swords. His skillset is also extremely solid, holding Prayer and Sunlight Sword which both serve to increase his survivability even further. His only real drawback is his PCC of zero, which means that he can never crit on a counterattack. He does make a reasonable candidate for the Wrath scroll to remedy this however, if you're willing to hold on it for so long. Overall, he's just extremely good in almost every way, with only one small weakness in the form of his PCC, although his join time could be earlier. 8/10
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Used to play this game quite a bit, was a guild leader of a decently successful competitive guild on private servers for a while, but I lost most of my interest in this game a long time ago sadly.
3rd jobs really ruined the tenuous balance between classes. Sorcerers and Royal Guards were (and probably still are) stupidly powerful compared to their 3-1 counterparts, and Suras are still completely crazy.
Sorcerers are actually weaker than Professors were because of how Land Protector got nerfed (unless it was changed since I stopped playing)
But yes Royal Guards were completely stupid, absolutely no balance where that class was involved
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Rules (adapted from Integrity's)
- Ratings are for Normal Mode.
- Votes need some explanation regarding their gameplay performance to be counted. If somebody else said what you want to already, quote them explicitly.
+/- ≤1 point extra regarding personality/appearance is encouraged, but no more. If you exercise your bias privileges, please do so explicitly.
- Votes are made out of 10. You cannot rate a unit above 10 or below 0.
- The rating topic will be updated whenever I feel like it, but I will try to allow at least 24 hours for each topic. They will generally be updated at around noon EST.
- A character being inferior relative to another character does not explicitly reduce their rating.
- Characters do not get credit for recruiting others or allowing access to side quests.
- Assume that the character in question is being recruited.
- Characters do not get credit for bringing items.
- I reserve the right to ignore any votes which are not well-supported.
- You may allow a character to use scrolls (and adjust their rating appropriately) so long as it is reasonable (you may debate what constitutes "reasonable" if you feel people may disagree with you). You cannot arbitrarily increase a unit's score by arguing that they may exclusively use half a dozen scrolls for themself. In general, scrolls will probably not add more than +1 to a character's overall rating.
- Warp skipping has an impact on scores in so far as "Safy has an high base staff rank". Nanna would score lower than Safy because of her lower rank, but no chapter is explicitly said to be skipped. You can't get Warp and then suddenly say every character after doesn't exist or requires turns to recruit. Something could be said of Xavier, or Conomore/Amalda who are in an escape chapter where Leaf starts next to the escape point.
The definition of "unremarkable", he is probably the most forgettable character in the game and his gameplay stats reflect that as well. No skills or PCC, and mediocre but usable stats across the board. His weapon ranks are okay but not exceptional. He makes decent filler, but you've probably used one of Othin/Halvan, and even if you haven't there are tons of other sword users anyway. 3.5/10
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Rules (adapted from Integrity's)
- Ratings are for Normal Mode.
- Votes need some explanation regarding their gameplay performance to be counted. If somebody else said what you want to already, quote them explicitly.
+/- ≤1 point extra regarding personality/appearance is encouraged, but no more. If you exercise your bias privileges, please do so explicitly.
- Votes are made out of 10. You cannot rate a unit above 10 or below 0.
- The rating topic will be updated whenever I feel like it, but I will try to allow at least 24 hours for each topic. They will generally be updated at around noon EST.
- A character being inferior relative to another character does not explicitly reduce their rating.
- Characters do not get credit for recruiting others or allowing access to side quests.
- Assume that the character in question is being recruited.
- Characters do not get credit for bringing items.
- I reserve the right to ignore any votes which are not well-supported.
- You may allow a character to use scrolls (and adjust their rating appropriately) so long as it is reasonable (you may debate what constitutes "reasonable" if you feel people may disagree with you). You cannot arbitrarily increase a unit's score by arguing that they may exclusively use half a dozen scrolls for themself. In general, scrolls will probably not add more than +1 to a character's overall rating.
- Warp skipping has an impact on scores in so far as "Safy has an high base staff rank". Nanna would score lower than Safy because of her lower rank, but no chapter is explicitly said to be skipped. You can't get Warp and then suddenly say every character after doesn't exist or requires turns to recruit. Something could be said of Xavier, or Conomore/Amalda who are in an escape chapter where Leaf starts next to the escape point.
More or less another staff bot who has the interesting distinction of having a very high light magic rank before promotion, allowing her to use Resire. Unfortunately, it's difficult for her to make good use of it, as her base defensive stats are extremely poor and stronger enemies can easily kill her in a single hit, although if she survives her PCC of 5 will ensure that she regains all of her HP. Unfortunately, she's dragged down by the fact that she cannot promote before chapter 21, which makes it impossible to quickly promote her for the increased staff rank. Regardless, she is all-around useful as another staff user who has some passable combat, like a less flexible Salem with a better set of weaponry. 7/10
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Rules (adapted from Integrity's)
- Ratings are for Normal Mode.
- Votes need some explanation regarding their gameplay performance to be counted. If somebody else said what you want to already, quote them explicitly.
+/- ≤1 point extra regarding personality/appearance is encouraged, but no more. If you exercise your bias privileges, please do so explicitly.
- Votes are made out of 10. You cannot rate a unit above 10 or below 0.
- The rating topic will be updated whenever I feel like it, but I will try to allow at least 24 hours for each topic. They will generally be updated at around noon EST.
- A character being inferior relative to another character does not explicitly reduce their rating.
- Characters do not get credit for recruiting others or allowing access to side quests.
- Assume that the character in question is being recruited.
- Characters do not get credit for bringing items.
- I reserve the right to ignore any votes which are not well-supported.
- You may allow a character to use scrolls (and adjust their rating appropriately) so long as it is reasonable (you may debate what constitutes "reasonable" if you feel people may disagree with you). You cannot arbitrarily increase a unit's score by arguing that they may exclusively use half a dozen scrolls for themself. In general, scrolls will probably not add more than +1 to a character's overall rating.
- Warp skipping has an impact on scores in so far as "Safy has an high base staff rank". Nanna would score lower than Safy because of her lower rank, but no chapter is explicitly said to be skipped. You can't get Warp and then suddenly say every character after doesn't exist or requires turns to recruit. Something could be said of Xavier, or Conomore/Amalda who are in an escape chapter where Leaf starts next to the escape point.
Despite the fact that he joins so underleveled at this stage of the game, Homer manages to maintain a few advantages that keep him usable. For one, he has Elite, which makes training him not impossible as even simply chipping will afford him quite a bit of EXP. His growth rates are mostly pretty solid, and a PCC of 5 is really nice. He can use Lightning tomes, which is sort of nice as they're probably overall a little better than Wind, but they're in short supply until chapter 22. Sage promotion bonuses are also meaty. He's not exceptional, but if given a bit of investment he can be used adequately. 6.5/10
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Rules (adapted from Integrity's)
- Ratings are for Normal Mode.
- Votes need some explanation regarding their gameplay performance to be counted. If somebody else said what you want to already, quote them explicitly.
+/- ≤1 point extra regarding personality/appearance is encouraged, but no more. If you exercise your bias privileges, please do so explicitly.
- Votes are made out of 10. You cannot rate a unit above 10 or below 0.
- The rating topic will be updated whenever I feel like it, but I will try to allow at least 24 hours for each topic. They will generally be updated at around noon EST.
- A character being inferior relative to another character does not explicitly reduce their rating.
- Characters do not get credit for recruiting others or allowing access to side quests.
- Assume that the character in question is being recruited.
- Characters do not get credit for bringing items.
- I reserve the right to ignore any votes which are not well-supported.
- You may allow a character to use scrolls (and adjust their rating appropriately) so long as it is reasonable (you may debate what constitutes "reasonable" if you feel people may disagree with you). You cannot arbitrarily increase a unit's score by arguing that they may exclusively use half a dozen scrolls for themself. In general, scrolls will probably not add more than +1 to a character's overall rating.
- Warp skipping has an impact on scores in so far as "Safy has an high base staff rank". Nanna would score lower than Safy because of her lower rank, but no chapter is explicitly said to be skipped. You can't get Warp and then suddenly say every character after doesn't exist or requires turns to recruit. Something could be said of Xavier, or Conomore/Amalda who are in an escape chapter where Leaf starts next to the escape point.
Despite being a flyer, she is markedly weaker than both Karin and Dean. Her base stats are rather poor for the time at which she joins. She has no skills or PCC or other redeeming qualities. Her only decent weapon rank is her lance rank, which allows her to use some weapons at the very least, but her growths aren't even anything particularly special and it will take her a long time to catch up to Dean. Overall, she gets a bonus point for being able to fly, but is pretty useless. 3/10
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so I legitimately just won a game as jungle Anivia
how do I always win when I play ridiculous stuff
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Rules (adapted from Integrity's)
- Ratings are for Normal Mode.
- Votes need some explanation regarding their gameplay performance to be counted. If somebody else said what you want to already, quote them explicitly.
+/- ≤1 point extra regarding personality/appearance is encouraged, but no more. If you exercise your bias privileges, please do so explicitly.
- Votes are made out of 10. You cannot rate a unit above 10 or below 0.
- The rating topic will be updated whenever I feel like it, but I will try to allow at least 24 hours for each topic. They will generally be updated at around noon EST.
- A character being inferior relative to another character does not explicitly reduce their rating.
- Characters do not get credit for recruiting others or allowing access to side quests.
- Assume that the character in question is being recruited.
- Characters do not get credit for bringing items.
- I reserve the right to ignore any votes which are not well-supported.
- You may allow a character to use scrolls (and adjust their rating appropriately) so long as it is reasonable (you may debate what constitutes "reasonable" if you feel people may disagree with you). You cannot arbitrarily increase a unit's score by arguing that they may exclusively use half a dozen scrolls for themself. In general, scrolls will probably not add more than +1 to a character's overall rating.
- Warp skipping has an impact on scores in so far as "Safy has an high base staff rank". Nanna would score lower than Safy because of her lower rank, but no chapter is explicitly said to be skipped. You can't get Warp and then suddenly say every character after doesn't exist or requires turns to recruit. Something could be said of Xavier, or Conomore/Amalda who are in an escape chapter where Leaf starts next to the escape point.
An extremely useful prepromote who basically has everything you could ask for: decent base stats, a flying mount outdoors, a high sword rank indoors, an extremely good personal weapon, decent PCC, and some movement stars. He will probably be outperforming Karin when he joins and continue doing so for the remainder of the game. That said, his availability is mediocre, and his less impressive evasion than Karin's means that fielding him near large amounts of ballistae can be risky (although their AI can often be manipulated into attacking other units). Overall though, he's just plain good. 8/10
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Rules (adapted from Integrity's)
- Ratings are for Normal Mode.
- Votes need some explanation regarding their gameplay performance to be counted. If somebody else said what you want to already, quote them explicitly.
+/- ≤1 point extra regarding personality/appearance is encouraged, but no more. If you exercise your bias privileges, please do so explicitly.
- Votes are made out of 10. You cannot rate a unit above 10 or below 0.
- The rating topic will be updated whenever I feel like it, but I will try to allow at least 24 hours for each topic. They will generally be updated at around noon EST.
- A character being inferior relative to another character does not explicitly reduce their rating.
- Characters do not get credit for recruiting others or allowing access to side quests.
- Assume that the character in question is being recruited.
- Characters do not get credit for bringing items.
- I reserve the right to ignore any votes which are not well-supported.
- You may allow a character to use scrolls (and adjust their rating appropriately) so long as it is reasonable (you may debate what constitutes "reasonable" if you feel people may disagree with you). You cannot arbitrarily increase a unit's score by arguing that they may exclusively use half a dozen scrolls for themself. In general, scrolls will probably not add more than +1 to a character's overall rating.
- Warp skipping has an impact on scores in so far as "Safy has an high base staff rank". Nanna would score lower than Safy because of her lower rank, but no chapter is explicitly said to be skipped. You can't get Warp and then suddenly say every character after doesn't exist or requires turns to recruit. Something could be said of Xavier, or Conomore/Amalda who are in an escape chapter where Leaf starts next to the escape point.
A moderately decent prepromote who contributes a leadership star, a trait not shared by a lot of units that makes him useful regardless of anything else. He's otherwise pretty average: no skills or PCC, and E swords, but A lances can make him useful on outdoor maps. A mount is also nice. Overall a solid filler unit on outdoor maps due to his ability to contribute without actually doing anything, and not requiring any babysitting. 5.5/10
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Rules (adapted from Integrity's)
- Ratings are for Normal Mode.
- Votes need some explanation regarding their gameplay performance to be counted. If somebody else said what you want to already, quote them explicitly.
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- A character being inferior relative to another character does not explicitly reduce their rating.
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- Assume that the character in question is being recruited.
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- You may allow a character to use scrolls (and adjust their rating appropriately) so long as it is reasonable (you may debate what constitutes "reasonable" if you feel people may disagree with you). You cannot arbitrarily increase a unit's score by arguing that they may exclusively use half a dozen scrolls for themself. In general, scrolls will probably not add more than +1 to a character's overall rating.
- Warp skipping has an impact on scores in so far as "Safy has an high base staff rank". Nanna would score lower than Safy because of her lower rank, but no chapter is explicitly said to be skipped. You can't get Warp and then suddenly say every character after doesn't exist or requires turns to recruit. Something could be said of Xavier, or Conomore/Amalda who are in an escape chapter where Leaf starts next to the escape point.
Joins severely underleveled with only E staves, but comes with two of the highest utility staves in the game: Thief and Unlock. They alone afford her utility that no other character can match. Her staff rank is poor, but her personal staves raise them at a high rate and promotion can help remedy that as well. Her low skill will cause her to miss relatively often at early levels, however. 5 Movement Stars can also occasionally come in handy. Overall, an extremely useful unit as a staff user with unique utility despite her late join time relative to her level and stats. 8.5/10
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Rules (adapted from Integrity's)
- Ratings are for Normal Mode.
- Votes need some explanation regarding their gameplay performance to be counted. If somebody else said what you want to already, quote them explicitly.
+/- ≤1 point extra regarding personality/appearance is encouraged, but no more. If you exercise your bias privileges, please do so explicitly.
- Votes are made out of 10. You cannot rate a unit above 10 or below 0.
- The rating topic will be updated whenever I feel like it, but I will try to allow at least 24 hours for each topic. They will generally be updated at around noon EST.
- A character being inferior relative to another character does not explicitly reduce their rating.
- Characters do not get credit for recruiting others or allowing access to side quests.
- Assume that the character in question is being recruited.
- Characters do not get credit for bringing items.
- I reserve the right to ignore any votes which are not well-supported.
- You may allow a character to use scrolls (and adjust their rating appropriately) so long as it is reasonable (you may debate what constitutes "reasonable" if you feel people may disagree with you). You cannot arbitrarily increase a unit's score by arguing that they may exclusively use half a dozen scrolls for themself. In general, scrolls will probably not add more than +1 to a character's overall rating.
- Warp skipping has an impact on scores in so far as "Safy has an high base staff rank". Nanna would score lower than Safy because of her lower rank, but no chapter is explicitly said to be skipped. You can't get Warp and then suddenly say every character after doesn't exist or requires turns to recruit. Something could be said of Xavier, or Conomore/Amalda who are in an escape chapter where Leaf starts next to the escape point.
Another generic swordfighter, whose stats are decidedly average at this point in the game. He has nothing really special going for him, no PCC and Awareness is an extremely niche skill that doesn't really come into play very often (and if you feel you need it, Mareeta has it with her sword as well). Altogether, his combat isn't even as good as Pahn's. Just sort of a filler character who doesn't give anything terribly special to the team. 3.5/10
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Rules (adapted from Integrity's)
- Ratings are for Normal Mode.
- Votes need some explanation regarding their gameplay performance to be counted. If somebody else said what you want to already, quote them explicitly.
+/- ≤1 point extra regarding personality/appearance is encouraged, but no more. If you exercise your bias privileges, please do so explicitly.
- Votes are made out of 10. You cannot rate a unit above 10 or below 0.
- The rating topic will be updated whenever I feel like it, but I will try to allow at least 24 hours for each topic. They will generally be updated at around noon EST.
- A character being inferior relative to another character does not explicitly reduce their rating.
- Characters do not get credit for recruiting others or allowing access to side quests.
- Assume that the character in question is being recruited.
- Characters do not get credit for bringing items.
- I reserve the right to ignore any votes which are not well-supported.
- You may allow a character to use scrolls (and adjust their rating appropriately) so long as it is reasonable (you may debate what constitutes "reasonable" if you feel people may disagree with you). You cannot arbitrarily increase a unit's score by arguing that they may exclusively use half a dozen scrolls for themself. In general, scrolls will probably not add more than +1 to a character's overall rating.
- Warp skipping has an impact on scores in so far as "Safy has an high base staff rank". Nanna would score lower than Safy because of her lower rank, but no chapter is explicitly said to be skipped. You can't get Warp and then suddenly say every character after doesn't exist or requires turns to recruit. Something could be said of Xavier, or Conomore/Amalda who are in an escape chapter where Leaf starts next to the escape point.
A solid prepromote who brings a good amount of utility to the team through his Thief abilities and 5 movement stars which can potential give him a great deal of flexibility. On top of this, he has passable combat through a combination of Ambush, Sunlight Sword, and B-rank swords and a PCC of 5. His base build isn't anything impressive, but it's at least on par with what Lifis will most likely have unless he's being heavily trained. 8/10
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how about i put it this way
an average of 7/10 when she should be a 2 is pushing it
Put it however you want, I enjoy your contributions to stuff like this and know you're capable of saying a lot more though
I don't care if someone runs with the majority opinion and doesn't really say anything, but if you have a different view I think most of us would like to hear it (although I can guess what it is)
it's not the rating I have an issue with
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dondon's rating for Olwen is OK, but his rating for Mareeta is not?
ultimately my goal is not to have a stick up my ass about that rule so long as people are not just posting just plain numbers. If you want to know my reasoning behind it, giving someone a 4/10 once (down from an average of 7/10) with little explanation after having contributed in previous topics is one thing, but a 2/10 when the average is a 7 with again no explanation (twice in a row) is pushing it
If anyone actually cares a whole lot I can redact Olwen's rating, I figured it's really not a big deal though since these are more for-fun and not really meant to be as serious as a tier list
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Rules (adapted from Integrity's)
- Ratings are for Normal Mode.
- Votes need some explanation regarding their gameplay performance to be counted. If somebody else said what you want to already, quote them explicitly.
+/- ≤1 point extra regarding personality/appearance is encouraged, but no more. If you exercise your bias privileges, please do so explicitly.
- Votes are made out of 10. You cannot rate a unit above 10 or below 0.
- The rating topic will be updated whenever I feel like it, but I will try to allow at least 24 hours for each topic. They will generally be updated at around noon EST.
- A character being inferior relative to another character does not explicitly reduce their rating.
- Characters do not get credit for recruiting others or allowing access to side quests.
- Assume that the character in question is being recruited.
- Characters do not get credit for bringing items.
- I reserve the right to ignore any votes which are not well-supported.
- You may allow a character to use scrolls (and adjust their rating appropriately) so long as it is reasonable (you may debate what constitutes "reasonable" if you feel people may disagree with you). You cannot arbitrarily increase a unit's score by arguing that they may exclusively use half a dozen scrolls for themself. In general, scrolls will probably not add more than +1 to a character's overall rating.
- Warp skipping has an impact on scores in so far as "Safy has an high base staff rank". Nanna would score lower than Safy because of her lower rank, but no chapter is explicitly said to be skipped. You can't get Warp and then suddenly say every character after doesn't exist or requires turns to recruit. Something could be said of Xavier, or Conomore/Amalda who are in an escape chapter where Leaf starts next to the escape point.
A fantastic unit, being the second primary staff-user to join your ranks after Saphy. He requires some usage to get up to speed, but actually has the capability to hit A staves and thus is made one of the best units in the game. His combat is passable, if given Wind tomes, or he can use Yotsmungandr with Ambush if you prefer to devote a bit more resources to him. Overall very usable, but hampered a bit by his availability. 8/10
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Rules (adapted from Integrity's)
- Ratings are for Normal Mode.
- Votes need some explanation regarding their gameplay performance to be counted. If somebody else said what you want to already, quote them explicitly.
+/- ≤1 point extra regarding personality/appearance is encouraged, but no more. If you exercise your bias privileges, please do so explicitly.
- Votes are made out of 10. You cannot rate a unit above 10 or below 0.
- The rating topic will be updated whenever I feel like it, but I will try to allow at least 24 hours for each topic. They will generally be updated at around noon EST.
- A character being inferior relative to another character does not explicitly reduce their rating.
- Characters do not get credit for recruiting others or allowing access to side quests.
- Assume that the character in question is being recruited.
- Characters do not get credit for bringing items.
- I reserve the right to ignore any votes which are not well-supported.
- You may allow a character to use scrolls (and adjust their rating appropriately) so long as it is reasonable (you may debate what constitutes "reasonable" if you feel people may disagree with you). You cannot arbitrarily increase a unit's score by arguing that they may exclusively use half a dozen scrolls for themself. In general, scrolls will probably not add more than +1 to a character's overall rating.
- Warp skipping has an impact on scores in so far as "Safy has an high base staff rank". Nanna would score lower than Safy because of her lower rank, but no chapter is explicitly said to be skipped. You can't get Warp and then suddenly say every character after doesn't exist or requires turns to recruit. Something could be said of Xavier, or Conomore/Amalda who are in an escape chapter where Leaf starts next to the escape point.
Ridiculous offensive capabilities with Moonlight Sword and eventually Starlight Sword, and her own personal weapon to go along with it. Unfortunately, she starts at such a low level that it takes quite a bit of investment to get her up to par and getting starlight sword costs you turns in chapter 15. Still, she can fulfill a niche as a boss killer (as if you didn't already have a bunch of other options for that anyway) so she's not quite useless. 5.5/10
Rate the Unit 48: Conomore
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Rules (adapted from Integrity's)
- Ratings are for Normal Mode.
- Votes need some explanation regarding their gameplay performance to be counted. If somebody else said what you want to already, quote them explicitly.
+/- ≤1 point extra regarding personality/appearance is encouraged, but no more. If you exercise your bias privileges, please do so explicitly.
- Votes are made out of 10. You cannot rate a unit above 10 or below 0.
- The rating topic will be updated whenever I feel like it, but I will try to allow at least 24 hours for each topic. They will generally be updated at around noon EST.
- A character being inferior relative to another character does not explicitly reduce their rating.
- Characters do not get credit for recruiting others or allowing access to side quests.
- Assume that the character in question is being recruited.
- Characters do not get credit for bringing items.
- I reserve the right to ignore any votes which are not well-supported.
- You may allow a character to use scrolls (and adjust their rating appropriately) so long as it is reasonable (you may debate what constitutes "reasonable" if you feel people may disagree with you). You cannot arbitrarily increase a unit's score by arguing that they may exclusively use half a dozen scrolls for themself. In general, scrolls will probably not add more than +1 to a character's overall rating.
- Warp skipping has an impact on scores in so far as "Safy has an high base staff rank". Nanna would score lower than Safy because of her lower rank, but no chapter is explicitly said to be skipped. You can't get Warp and then suddenly say every character after doesn't exist or requires turns to recruit. Something could be said of Xavier, or Conomore/Amalda who are in an escape chapter where Leaf starts next to the escape point.
Shanam: 0.89
Miranda: 1.13
Robert: 2.33
Ronan: 2.42
Alva: 2.5
Xavier: 2.64
Marty: 2.89
Kein: 3.5
Tanya: 3.82
Misha: 4.10
Eda: 4.29
Dalsin: 4.38
Trude: 4.69
Evayl: 5.02
Ralph: 5.28
Selphina: 5.37
Glade: 5.75
Hicks: 5.89
Fred: 6.00
Amalda: 6.05
Brighton: 6.90
Machua: 7.03
Olwen: 7.05
Mareeta: 7.13
Linoan: 7.24
Halvan: 7.35
Carrion: 7.54
Dagda: 7.54
Homer: 7.54
Rifis: 7.70
Leaf: 8.18
Eyrios: 8.20
Shiva: 8.26
Salem: 8.30
Karin: 8.50
Pahn: 8.66
Dean: 8.70
Felgus: 8.79
Sleuf: 8.84
Othin: 8.86
Tina: 8.90
Lara: 8.92
Fin: 9.06
Sara: 9.11
Nanna: 9.13
Safy: 9.48
Asvel: 9.58
Pretty similar to Amalda in terms of combat parameters: his combat stats are slightly higher across the board, but he trades C staves for A Lances, which are definitely less useful. He is, however, fairly durable. Unfortunately, he is more heavily limited in indoor maps and his role overlaps with some other mounted filler units that joined far earlier like Fred and Glade. Basically decent filler, if only for his leadership star, but otherwise underwhelming at this point. 3.5/10
We're now down to our last handful of units, with only 5 remaining.