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  1. I thought you dislike Roy? 

     

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      Harvey

      Sorry, that's a spelling mistake. Fixed it now.

       

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  2. Since you asked me how Roy is responsible for Hector's death and since I don't want to ruin the thread I created, I'm going to give you my own personal answer privately to you.

    Story wise, he is my least favorite lord. He never really makes good decisions. He is constantly making questionable decisions, but he is never to blame when anything goes wrong. Despite the fact that he is nearly captured by Bern, despite the fact that Hector may not have died if Roy had made less stops on his way, nobody ever points out that their leader has no idea what he is doing.

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      Harvey

      And just to be clear here, I read the script of chapters 2 & 3 and yeah...it is pretty much Roy's fault that Hector died since all he thought about was bashing the castle to save him instead of thinking tactically on how to save him while escaping or playing it safe. I understand that FE6 has Seize exclusively but its the character depth that matters here and all of that is not done properly.

       

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  3. Since you asked me how Roy is responsible for Hector's death and since I don't want to ruin the thread I created, I'm going to give you my own personal answer privately to you.

    Story wise, he is my least favorite lord. He never really makes good decisions. He is constantly making questionable decisions, but he is never to blame when anything goes wrong. Despite the fact that he is nearly captured by Bern, despite the fact that Hector may not have died if Roy had made less stops on his way, nobody ever points out that their leader has no idea what he is doing.

    1. Harvey

      Harvey

      No..I'm pretty certain that FE7 helped made the plot to FE6 a lot better to many. Infact since many played FE7, they jumped to FE6 since many of the characters appear in both the games and are referenced there as well and Zephiel is one of them.

      That's the thing about Marth because even if he's not as knowledgeable as Roy, he STILL has better character development unlike Roy who hardly has any.

      A lot of units that Roy recruits are not even grown ups but are probably under or on par of his age. Granted, the character design is partly to blame here but he could have mentioned here and there that are "Are you sure you want to join us?" but no. Instead, he like begs people to join his army or suggests people to join his army since talking to his dad about getting more units would hint his dad that he's a poor lord.

      Look, let me make this clear, Binding Blade has a very good story if not atleast somewhere as good as Holy wars. But Roy's lack of personality makes him SO bad that it ALMOST ruins the whole experience of the overall story.

      The plot may have planned Hector's death but the situation of how Hector died is solely because of Roy's fault because of how he kept helping people instead of heading there urgently, how instead of having second thoughts of whether to go here or there, just goes blindly to whatever his father told him to do. The guy is so damn bland that he doesn't even have any thoughts over to his ill father who we still don't know whether's he was at the time still alive or dead or even hinted...

      Just because a character is suppose to do what's based on the script doesn't mean that the character has to just blindly follow through it. Having thoughts, trying to do something about it before it too late, trying to pretend as a disguise or something would have helped give a better reason as to why Roy can't be blamed for Hector's death. 

      But BECAUSE none of that happened, Roy is to be blamed for Hector's death since he didn't even try to think of anything to try his best to save Hector. This is why I like Eliwood better because his personality unlike Roy is more fleshed out when trying to save his father(it could have been better but its atleast FAR better than what Roy could've done.)

       

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  4. Since you asked me how Roy is responsible for Hector's death and since I don't want to ruin the thread I created, I'm going to give you my own personal answer privately to you.

    Story wise, he is my least favorite lord. He never really makes good decisions. He is constantly making questionable decisions, but he is never to blame when anything goes wrong. Despite the fact that he is nearly captured by Bern, despite the fact that Hector may not have died if Roy had made less stops on his way, nobody ever points out that their leader has no idea what he is doing.

    1. Harvey

      Harvey

      Oh so now you're all the more defending FE6 because of the plotholes FE7 had? If FE7 didn't exist, Zephiel's backstory would have been even more lamer unlike now because FE7 explained a lot of his life back then. The only time his backstory was ever mentioned was when Roy asked Gunivere but that's just it. He doesn't even try to convince Zephiel or feels sorry about his father being like that at all.

      and saying that Roy had no choice but to kill Zephiel is even lamer because he did have a choice, its called bringing out Gunivere to DO something about it since she was at his side the WHOLE damn time. 

      Eliwood did have a choice. Surely he could have entrusted someone else BESIDES Roy to lead the army. There's a huge difference between Marth leading and Roy leading. Marth was fully trained into leadership unlike Roy who wasn't. What happened to the connection between Hector and Eliwood? What happened to Lillina when she was ordered to go back to Ostia? All that wasn't properly explained.

      Roy is plain dull. Half the time, he has no idea what to do and while you can argue that its the consequences that force Roy to do this and that, that still means nothing. Roy just blindly goes into this area and that without much of thought unlike the other lords who are the opposite.

      If you truly cannot see how dull and bland Roy is, then you're best bet is to observe the plot even further and observe everyone else's opinion.

       

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  5. Since you asked me how Roy is responsible for Hector's death and since I don't want to ruin the thread I created, I'm going to give you my own personal answer privately to you.

    Story wise, he is my least favorite lord. He never really makes good decisions. He is constantly making questionable decisions, but he is never to blame when anything goes wrong. Despite the fact that he is nearly captured by Bern, despite the fact that Hector may not have died if Roy had made less stops on his way, nobody ever points out that their leader has no idea what he is doing.

    1. Harvey

      Harvey

      Still like I said, it was simply pointless to make such a report like that to begin with because again, She would have saved Pharae anyway knowing that Bern is upto no good.

      A lot of the times, Roy does questionable things. I mean why does he accept his father's orders just like that? Like there's no sense of personality in him. It just blinds him even further. 

      Look, The overall story of Binding Blade is solid but the issue here is that Roy almost makes the whole story shallow seeing how his units are at very young ages and that this leave several plotholes further down when you combine FE6 & 7.

       

       

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  6. Since you asked me how Roy is responsible for Hector's death and since I don't want to ruin the thread I created, I'm going to give you my own personal answer privately to you.

    Story wise, he is my least favorite lord. He never really makes good decisions. He is constantly making questionable decisions, but he is never to blame when anything goes wrong. Despite the fact that he is nearly captured by Bern, despite the fact that Hector may not have died if Roy had made less stops on his way, nobody ever points out that their leader has no idea what he is doing.

    1. Harvey

      Harvey

      Oh really?

      Let's start with calling Cecilia thing hmm...you say its a smart move doing that? Then why oh why didn't he do that in the first place knowing that awful things were bound to happen? Instead of reporting it directly to her, he ended up deciding to get one of the divine weapons which WORSENED the situations further. Even if he didn't report her, She would still be forced to protect Lycia simply because if Bern destroys Lycia, it would only be a matter of time that they invaded Eturia as well so it really was pointless to even do such a thing.

      Also, at this point, he got the Wrmslayer...easily can just defeat Narcian and the others here seeing how little of units there are. Case in point.

      And Hector, there was no damn reason to even save Gunivere since she's part of the reason why Hector got killed up like that in the first place and why a lot of mess even happened in the first place. Actually, part of the blame goes to Eliwood because he didn't realize how dumb his son actually was at the time. I mean, knowing that his son is too young to even do something such as leading, why oh why would he let his son do that in the first place.

      On top of all this, Roy let Eturia use Lycia for its OWN purposes...That right there sounds idiotic.

      Roy overall is just a boring character with lame personalitiy that makes Marth the better one between the two.

       

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