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??? at the people speculating I'm anon lurking, I was and asleep and my computer was in sleep mode and I should have showed up as offline (or away, I don't really know how it works) on discord too, so ???????????? kind of pissed off at the accusation I am switching to logging in as anonymous to LURK IN MY SLEEP
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@WeaponsofMassConstruction town!Prims does this because I have had you as a slot I'm struggling to read and not comfortable with and feel like you won't produce anything readable left to your own devices
I just got here, there is too much going on to catch up on in a timely manner. Reminder that sometimes not posting when you don't have to post is pro-town.
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##Vote: @RefaHave preferred Refa lynch over Weapons even since switching but left vote on Weapons because I wanted him to have additional pressure on him when posting if he was scum.
Claim is null I think.
I do think there's likely scum in Refa/Weapons. Rapier VT claim I don't think is scum!Rapier's move here -
Just now, BBM said:
@Prims how are you reading rapier atm? based on a quick ctrl+f of your iso I don't think you've really said much about him recently despite asking boron what she thinks about him, and a lot of your earlier thoughts about him were very neutral "wouldn't townread him but also wouldn't scumread him" sort of stuff
He's still a neutral read and I've been lazy about reading him in-depth. I wouldn't feel too bad if he got lynched I think. At least he wouldn't have to be annoyed keeping up with the thread. This is a lame answer but while I have no real read on his content individually I feel like he makes sense as a buddy if Refa is scum
I forget, how are you reading Refa at this point, and are you comfortable with the wagon? FWIW I'm aware I haven't really been talking about Rapier and although I wasn't baiting this or anything it's really weird to me that Refa wasn't the one to ask me this question lol, to the point their first thought when I posted again with no read on Rapier was to ask me something totally unrelated, it reinforces my view of them as passive/docile scum who's just posting reads to get by
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And because that probably makes my Shinori read unclear, he's under "null but I got a slight tonal townread on him". I do not actually think he is likely scum.
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I guess I wouldn't really be surprised if Shinori turned out to be scum later whereas Percy I would be sort of surprised, but I'm not 100% certain it's his town game yet. re: Shinori I think the idea that Percy pushed Weapons to start a wagon then backpedaled to vote the townies on that wagon is a mischaracterization because Percy was never at the crux of any Weapons push and in fact never even voted him. Like, Percy's Weapons suspicion was small and not that influential to game state since it was made while he was catching up.
Right, if there's anything Percy did for me to address it's this post because I did not vore (or vote) Makaze over his SK spec, I only pointed it out then voted him later for different reasons. This just seems like a NAI memory mistake but it is worth pointing out if it factors into his reads I guess?
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2 minutes ago, Refa said:
Because it looked like that's what you were hinting at and it made no sense to me, I was wondering if you were seeing something that I wasn't.
Oh, no. I meant it as in I wasn't really agreeing with either one's take on the other.
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22 minutes ago, Refa said:
Did you think they (Percy, Shinori) could have been faking the spat? It didn't read as faked to me from either end.
Is there a specific reason you ask me this question?
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I don't think it's scum/scum, no. I don't think that while Percy is struggling to keep up with the game, he or Shinori go in scumchat and say "hey wanna fake a spat to draw attention for some reason", mostly because I don't think anybody actually came out of it looking townier. It was just... there. It reads organic and not staged.
btw Makaze is pretty much in my "solve later, maybe town" pile at this point. I'm not sure how much it's worth elaborating on it because it's WIFOMy. In general I do think the only teams with Makaze in them have his buddies die off early and leave him to get PoE'd. The point about him being submissive kind of goes away when he's ultimately been sticking to his obtrusive posting style and play (he also doesn't feel coached for this reason). I also just at this point think the fact that he is Literally Always Posting even on his birthday points to him obsessing over the game townie style lol
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Regarding Weapons vote: My impression today that if there's scum!Weapons, his gameplan was that he realized he's under fire and needed to step things up, so he wrote stream of conscious posts that get read as townie without actually doing that much. Wasn't sure if this was actually the scenario or just town!Weapons, but his response to the wagon on him being gone moving his vote to me struck me as like the scum!Weapons interpretation - I'm not a likely lynch, and if you look at Weapons' posts he's not actually pushing me hard at all, so to me it came off as moving to a votepark now that the spotlight isn't on him anymore while also being cheeky about it.
From there I was curious how he, while active in thread, would react to his suspect suddenly showing up to OMGUS him with no explanation, but his response so far has been mostly to duck out of the thread without talking about it, which is... not really what I anticipated from town!Weapons here either? Like, OK I got cut by a post saying he's trying not to tunnel which I guess is fair enough for an explanation why his response wasn't very aggressive, but there's just not really a push to lynch me in general even disregarding the OMGUS. @WeaponsofMassConstruction am I actually your strongest read and/or preferred lynch right now? do you view me as actually lynchable?
I don't have anything solid on Refa at this point but they just instinctively feel like scum to me, sort of oddly passive and docile for no reason. example: here Refa says they like BT's recent content. their previous interaction was Refa asking BT for non-Refa reads. BT does not even answer that question in between these two posts! I guess this could be about BT's Rapier line of inquiry but Refa is still waffling about Rapier at the end of the post?
It's very hard to make a productive case here because there's no one big point against them, I just read their posts and notice small things here and there that make me go "eh, huh, is that really how they feel in this situation if town?"
Weapons/Refa as a scumpair seems unlikely to me which makes me feel like I'm missing a piece of the puzzle.The Percy/Shinori spat was weird. tbh I had been reading them both as "tonally town but I'm not yet 100% sure it's outside the realm of what I believe they can fake". I don't find either lynch interesting today. I would like to bounce my thoughts about Weapons/Refa off Percy also if he's around. I don't know how caught up he is though. @Percivalé
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hit "that" -> hit the "Quote X posts" button in the bottom right
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When you click the + by Quote it stores the quote, then when you hit that on everything you want to quote it will add them to your post and you can drag and drop them over the placeholders.
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As a side note I write all my long posts in notepad++. You can put a link to a post in brackets as a placeholder and replace it with a quote in the editor when you're done
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@Makaze How likely do you think it is for Refa/Weapons to be unaligned or not?
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Boron, who are your alternate lynch preferences if not Makaze? In particular how are you reading Rapier right now?
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2 minutes ago, WeaponsofMassConstruction said:
Why the vote?
idk I'm not posting content right now
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Right, Cam is also voting Weapons, so he has 3 votes (the VC bot isn't picking up on it but Iris said she's counting votes normally instead of by bot, so the VC bot is misleading).
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@Elieson My main impetus for lurking through this portion of the day is that I don't want to generate more pages in a game where there are players struggling to catch up but you've already dipped out of the thread again after making a filler post. Are you still playing? Do you expect to have updated thoughts before the day ends?
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also yeah i mean most recent on the right
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wait hold on why does makaze say he pleads the third. thats literally not a thing. you plead the fifth. bro is constantly thinking about thirds?.?>?>>?
i got back up to post this
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also mods gotta start ordering the votals in order from earliest vote to last vote for player convenience at a glance, the mod votals are alphabetical and the bot votals are I think in reverse order? this baffles me because when I read the champs game it seemed like the votals were the way I'm used to so I don't figure everyone decided on a new system or something
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FWIW there is literally a reply from me in my role PM saying "I can't say this in thread but if Makaze isn't scum he's probably a PR unfortunately". I will say that if this turns out to be a lynchproof/gov type situation I will be insanely suspicious though because in the context of him opening the game with SK spec that would scream to me informed non-town with a powerful defensive role to make up for low numbers.
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Fair enough.
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##Vote: @Refa -
Are you softclaiming lynchproof / governor?
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I guess scum!Rapier VT claim is possible if another wagon is a scum member they see as more valuable, but idk.