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    Can someone provide me a good FE3 guide so I can start off on the right foot?

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    9 hours ago, Fenreir said:

    some more tips:

    - Devil Swords work well against Earth Dragons, as long as they don't backfire and damage you instead;

    - mounted units can't go inside buildings unless you dismount. available gear is limited depending if you're on foot(swords only) or on horse/pegasus/wyvern(lances only);

    - after leveling up to lv10 in the arenas, you reach a breakpoint where the further you try to go, the harder/impossible battles will start to come up;

    - Ogma and Merric are known to be among the strongest units in the game;

    - Manaketes are overpowered.

    Thanks for that, especially the 1st and 3rd tips.

    Can someone provide me a good FE3 guide so I can start off on the right foot?

    in NES and SNES Era

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    1 minute ago, Emperor Hardin said:

    Their weight is 20.

    Dragon breath is also 20, but unlike javelins, Breath ignores the defense of all non dragon units.

    Speaking of dragons, Manaketes function like the Laguz of POR and RD. When a dragon stone is used, the manakete turns into a dragon based class for a certain number of turns, determined by luck. Enemy Manaketes get to stay in Dragon form indefinitely though.

    Wait, weapons have weight in this game? They didn't in the remake, so I assumed they didn't have any here too.

    Suggestions for what FE games I should play next (after playing the GBA ones religously)

    in General Fire Emblem

    Posted

    12 minutes ago, Ertrick36 said:

    Oh, right...

    I guess it is the company that thinks you should pay $15-$30 for 20+ year old games, so unfortunately there's not much doing there except to find the games at cheap prices.  Though in the case of Fates, you're SoL, since that's always gonna be pricey thanks to the shameless business practice of splitting the game up into three "paths" and them making you buy two of the paths digitally.

    Sometimes I have issues with Nintendo.  Great games, but they're real damn stingy and sometimes really shady about the business side of things.  But yeah, I don't know if your problem there is ever going to be fixed.

    Agreed.

    Suggestions for what FE games I should play next (after playing the GBA ones religously)

    in General Fire Emblem

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Ertrick36 said:

    New Mystery is the first game I went to after playing Awakening, pretty much.  So I definitely don't think it's bad to start with that game after having played the GBA games.  Be sure to use best girl Catria, she's one of the best units in the game.

    I still haven't played through the Tellius games all the way, but it's all Fire Emblem, so imo it's all bound to be at least decent.

    I get the 3DS games aren't for everyone.  Mechanically, Awakening isn't very stimulating a challenge (or it's complete BS in the case of Lunatic), Revelation just has terrible map design, Birthright's got a lot of rout and defeat boss missions, Echoes is weird, and I just can't seem to get over my problems with the story in Conquest.  But eh, no creation is complete without its imperfections, and that means you can't ever please everyone.

    I personally feel like Nintendo is just stringing it along the Switch's lifespan so that they can keep milking the 70+ million sales they got for the system until it become irrelevant or clear that people aren't willing to buy games on the system anymore.  That isn't to say the 3DS is bad, it's just I think they're not really providing actual support for the console so much as feigning support by slapping on more titles for it.  Some of which are great, like Warioware, but still...  I'm just saying I can see why some people say it's dead.

    Anyway, if you want a nice, cheap deal, the Nintendo 2DS is pretty much the Nintendo 3DS except without the 3D (which is more a gimmick/novelty than anything) and the standard model only costs, like, $80.  Or even the New Nintendo 2DS XL costs half of what the 3DS counterparts cost back in the day, mostly costing sub-$200 (one I saw on ebay for as low as $120), yet you get all the other great features of the New Nintendo 3DS XL minus the 3D feature.  There are a lot of great games besides FE on the console, so I highly recommend it regardless of how you feel about the 3DS FE games.

    Don't tell that to Eclipse

    Eh, I think there are worse.  It doesn't have some of the better appreciated features like supports, but it's better than playing through the severely outdated NES version of the game.  And if you're adjusted to more modern FE's and want a little bit more story than the SNES title can offer, it might be the best option for experiencing Marth's first story.

    Yeah I agree that Nintendo is milking the system a bit in terms of recent time. The problem isn't me getting the console itself, since I already have a New 3DS XL, it's the fact that games like Fates and Awakening which are several years old are still 40 dollars, which is really what kills it for me. 

    Suggestions for what FE games I should play next (after playing the GBA ones religously)

    in General Fire Emblem

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    5 minutes ago, ArgentSable said:

    I honestly wouldn't say FE4's story is that good, if we're being honest. Gen 1 is okay, but Sigurd's lack of logical forethough (dude ignores prophecies as if they're not real, and he has a Holy sword he can use). I will agree with the gameplay being saved only due to being niche. The work it takes to walk through a map (and or a desert *shudders* is literally an eternity).

    And to be honest, I wouldn't say "avoid Heroes". If he's okay with playing the game and simply taking it as a way to waste some time between things (doctor's office, or something that you're just waiting for) it's quite good for that, since, it was obviously made to be played in short bursts.

    Hmm, what 3DS games did you play I wonder? They're fun, for sure, perhaps not as difficult as some of the other FE's (you have to play Hard or Lunatic for a challenge) but they're still relatively good. I'll still recommend them if you can ever get your hands on a 3DS.

    I played a good amount of Awakening and a small section of Fates not too long ago, just didn't have nearly as much fun as any other FE game I've played. Also the fact that I can't get them easily since it requires me to go back and invest in a seemingly dead console kinda kills it for me

    Suggestions for what FE games I should play next (after playing the GBA ones religously)

    in General Fire Emblem

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    After reading the responses, I've started to lean more towards playing some of the DS titles next (especially New Mystery of the Emblem), then I'll go to the Tellius titles. Since both New Mystery of the Emblem and the Tellius games are mechanically similar to both 6 and 7, I'd probably have the most fun going there next. The 3DS titles I'd probably play dead last in terms of the series, mostly because it's the only 3 games in the series I can't easily get, and also the fact that I've tried playing the 3DS titles via a friend a while ago, and I didn't have nearly as much fun as any other FE title with it. Sorry 3DS era fans.

    Suggestions for what FE games I should play next (after playing the GBA ones religously)

    in General Fire Emblem

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    2 minutes ago, Slumber said:

    If you go for FE4, just keep in mind it is one of the "oddball" entries in the series. It's constructed like an FE game, but the pace of the gameplay is unlike any other in the franchise.

    Once you get to FE5, that's the game that kind of set the mold for what FE is and has been since that game. It's a brutal game to play blind, though.

    As I said before, I'm tempted to go to those two next, but after remembering some of the features more exclusive to those series, like the huge maps (especially in FE4's case), makes me a bit hesitant. But I don't know, maybe the big maps won't be an issue. After all, I play FE6 a lot, which also has some pretty hefty maps. 

    Suggestions for what FE games I should play next (after playing the GBA ones religously)

    in General Fire Emblem

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    1 minute ago, Slumber said:

    The Jugdral(Genealogy of the Holy War and Thracia 776 on the SNES) and the Tellius(Path of Radiance on the Gamecube and Radiant Dawn on the Wii) games are solid choices after the GBA games.

    Mechanically they're a step up in a lot of ways from the GBA games, but not so foreign or weird that they'd be off-putting. The GBA games were a response to the Jugdral games, taking their mechanics and simplifying them. In-turn, the Tellius games kind of brought back a lot of what the GBA games took away. Either way you should be able to grasp either of these sets.

    They're also, narratively, probably the most well constructed FE games, so that's a nice bonus.

    Yeah, I've been really tempted to play the SNES titles after years of playing the GBA ones, especially Genealogy due to its common praise of being the magnum opus of the series. I just needed some input to give me that push in the right direction from here on out. I'll see how the rest of this plays out so I can make a decision that not only respects you guys but what I feel would benefit me as a FE player the most.

    Suggestions for what FE games I should play next (after playing the GBA ones religously)

    in General Fire Emblem

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    OK, so as you may have noticed already, I'm in desperate need to expand my horizon when it comes to this franchise. I've been exposed to the GBA titles (all of them) too much, and have little to no experience or exposure with essentially all the other FE titles (other than Heroes). All I would like to know is where I should go next in the series, and how to handle those titles. For those who are looking to recommend me specific titles, I implore you to elaborate by informing me of some ways I can be playing the game in an efficient and smart way. 

    I'd really like to appreciate this series for its entirety, and not just be a purist for a select few titles. 

    How should the main lords class promotion be handled? Story driven, or normal unit promotion?

    in General Fire Emblem

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    Just now, henrymidfields said:

    Say, after Chapter 16 when Roy becomes the acting Etrurian general? And if the classes are divided by levels then, 20 levels + 10 levels intermediate + 10 levels after Chapter 21?

    Yeah I feel like that would be an ideal time to do so. In terms of the level situation, you could either go how you suggested, or you could do it how I think it should go (which by the way is likely objectively wrong lol). Maybe make Roy's exp growth slow as hell, and make him carry on his level once he promotes the 2nd time. Also I feel like mounting Roy in some way (or at least increasing his move by 2) will also help in actually making Roy a great unit for more than like 3 seconds of the game 

    How should the main lords class promotion be handled? Story driven, or normal unit promotion?

    in General Fire Emblem

    Posted

    7 minutes ago, henrymidfields said:

    Story-driven as I prefer good narratives. Besides, there's a pretty easy way to fix Roy's late promo issue. Either just adjust his class levels as 30/10 (and allow him 10 extra levels until Chapter 21 comes around), or detach his levels from his promotions entirely (and thus allow Roy to get to Level 40, with his promotion essentially being stat-boosts only). Either one of those should be standard practice.

    (my first post lol) I feel like there's a better way to fix Roy's late promo issue. Just make him promote twice. Once around mid to late midgame, and then another time when he normally would in vanilla FE6. This will not only fix the problem of Roy being mediocre at best until the last few chapters, but it will also give an incentive to train and use Roy more throughout the early game. Also make him be mounted on his last promotion or something, idk

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