Refakitty³
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1 minute ago, Aizen said:
Are we waiting for something regarding C2 or? I don't fully understand the unvote.
In case people forgot to send in their super sekret votes (I just sent mine in a few minutes ago).
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That's fine with me. Just wanted to throw the idea out there in case people wanted to coordinate something.
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smh sham talking about CC being a L-1 but not unvoting to avoid self-hammer
people should get in their votes
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##Unvote
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Also, I dunno if this was mentioned
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1 minute ago, Olivier said:
i'm not sure who rain is but I don't think they're a new player.
Well, not new, but inexperienced is what I meant.
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1 minute ago, Olivier said:
it seems like marisa and refakitty are defaulting to CC votes over rain after the vig claim because they haven't even considered voting for rain? i think the argument that CC's one post holds drastically more to go off than rain's one post, or that rain would be a randvote but CC wouldn't is pretty confusing. sham's at least said a couple times why they don't think rain's post was scummy and although i don't agree with it I think they've at least looked at the post and analyzed it.
Well, I'm defaulting to a C.C. vote since they were my only real read that hasn't changed since I started looking at the thread (which helps because they haven't posted at all...). I just thought C.C.'s quote stripe content was almost 100% awful, looked like fake content. Rain seems like a randvote to me because it just reads like a pissed off inexperienced player who made a post and bounced, not even an attempt to move away from the RVS vote.
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2 minutes ago, Sham said:
scum!Rain the Mafia Doublevoter's buddies would have been absolutely screeching at her to get in and vote her counterwagon for hours by now, ftr.
But would scum!Rain actually bother to post in thread regardless? :thinking:
SpoilerI don't think Shinori is woke enough to put scum mayors in his setups anyway, please correct me if I'm wrong.
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**and CC probably.
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1 minute ago, Nemu Kurotsuchi said:
Yeah, maybe. I could see 2 scum being offline and the third not in position to swap.
No i mean, there's no reason scum would have necessarily to switch to a town!VE wagon even if they were online. Would depend on the alignment of Ochako and Rain I think.
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*wagon only existed for
This is getting into wagonomics, but scum don't have to jump on easy wagons all the time (assuming VE is town here). I certainly don't when i'm scum.
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1 minute ago, Nemu Kurotsuchi said:
Yeah, the Violet wagon. It's a pretty easy hop-on for scum, easy mislynch and if my townreads on you three were correct there's a bunch of scapegoats available. Then why didn't scum hop on?
Well, I'm currently leaning town on Sham, Marisa, and you (kinda) so we're in the same spot I guess. Could be useful if later find out any of the other wagons are scum. Of note is that the wagon existed for about an hour though.
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Just now, Nemu Kurotsuchi said:
The way this wagon stagnated is intriguing if Violet is town though
Which wagon, the Violet wagon?
Fwiw I could easily consolidate on Rain, just don't particularly think they're scum. Think they'd post similar content as town and scum here.
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zzzz. w/e I guess
##Vote: C.C
If this happened like 3 years ago I'd lynch the claim anyway but I guess I'm soft now. Go ahead and say I'm saving my buddy. @Sham
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My personal read on Rain is that they're a flaker so I don't think what they've posted is scummy so much as just bad. Can agree with VE's posts fitting more a "lowposting scum flying under the radar" profile. Took at look at their latest post about Ochako and it's just updating that case but no real attempt to evaluate the rest of the game state. Sure, she could be in catchup more like I was but the post reeks of presentation over substance. The commentary doesn't do much for me.
Still think C.C. is bad but @Sham want your opinion on why C.C. can't be flaky scum like I've seen in many games? Like I said before I dont think both VE and C.C. are scum together, at the very least.
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17 minutes ago, Sham said:
tl;dr @Refakitty³ Violet Evergarden did some scummy shit so let's lynch her. (Kind of worried you're scum tbh but feel free to try to prove me wrong by bussing your buddy.)
Why even play in an anon game when I can't hide my identity? :eyes: (p.s. you know if I was scum here I'd probably care more about posting instead of just promising i'll read and going to sleep instead)
##Vote: Violet Evergarden
Bring it. Rain is essentially a rand lynch for me.
(give me a second to actually catch up/read who im voting)
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3 minutes ago, Nemu Kurotsuchi said:
Oh, no, I meant it was an accusation that's unlikely to come from a townie, but more of an inconsistency scum tries to push, similar to a gotcha case.
Hmm, well I guess we'll have to diverge here because I've seen plenty of townies make accusations like that.
I'll be back in a bit.
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1 minute ago, Nemu Kurotsuchi said:
Talk to me more about this. What made you think this?
Character pick made me think they were a lock for someone else, plus I thought they were overplaying a lot of their posts to "up the newbie factor" (being surprised about RVS ending, a lot of dumb tone stuff etc.)
But I don't think whoever I thought it was originally could keep it up for this long while under suspicion.
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1 minute ago, Nemu Kurotsuchi said:
I'm not really sure what you're getting at, could you rephrase the question? I mean, yes, perspective slips can happen sometimes but I'm not sure why it's relevant here / what the question is.
Sorry, that was badly worded. When I tried to parse what you said about Sham, it looked like you were saying you thought she was scummy because Sham was basically using "perspective slip" logic wrt Ochako, so I was wondering if there was a reason you found that scummy instead of just a townie using the same logic.
Ftr I still need to actually look at Sham.
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3 minutes ago, Nemu Kurotsuchi said:
The thing with Sham/Ochako was that I agreed with most of Sham's stuff on Ochako (and therefore 'sheeped' the scumread) but didn't like the nitpicky part at all. This part btw is where they're saying Ochako is mostly talking to a townread. It's mentioned as a sort of big deal when I don't think it really means anything. It's the type of thing I can see scum dig up to support a case, rather than something a townie gets pinged by if you follow me.
Regarding Violet/C.C., my discussions with Estelle may have given the impression I think C.C.'s was reasonable which I don't think at all. However, C.C. pointing out specific lines she dislikes is better than the wishy washy crap Violet was giving in my opinion.
Okay, I can dig what you mean by being nitpicky, it's something I pick up on that scum players do sometimes. That said, do you not agree that perspective slips can happen: e.g. scum saying they have a mafia read on someone but then addressing them in the same breath like they think they're town? I've seen townies pick up on this type of stuff before. I have my own answer on what I think about this kind of hunting but I'd like yours.
Well, in a vacuum and all else being equal I'd say pointing out specific lines is slightly better for accountability and gives slight townpoints, but even then there's playstyle and in this specific case there's the issue that all the specific things C.C. pointed out were bunk; was there something you specifically liked that you thought could come from a town mindset in her catchup?
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1 minute ago, Kamina said:
Indeed we haven't! Allow me to introduce myself! The reputation of Team Dai-Gurren echoes far and wide. When they talk about its badass leader, the man of indomitable spirit and masculinity...they're talking about me: The Mighty Kamina!
Now that that's been established, let me introduce you to my band of blood brothers: AKA the new Team Gurren: All Might, Sham, and Olivier. Cu's also on his way to recieving an invitation.
Estelle and Ochako, meanwhile, are what we'd call Beastmen. Even without being caught up though, I still don't feel great about being on a wagon earlier alongside the top two wagons. I literally just got to Violet's first post, so things are about to get interesting.
Marisa and Aizen are quickly becoming these revolving door reads where I'll get to the end of a page and scumread them, then get to the end of the next page and townread them. Overall I feel more confident in Aizen being town than Marisa.
Your time to shine, I guess, where are you at?
I'm your friendly neighborhood waifu! Nice to meet you. :relieved:
I think C.C. and Nemu are both good picks for scum and they're where I'm leaning right now. Ochako is a weird read for me because I agree that their posts have been flimsy to me, but
I've mislynched this player before when they were town and pulled the same thing thereI'm wary because I think there's the possibility they're lost town. I'm also a bit wary of some of the other people on that wagon like C.C. and VE (although VE is more null to me.) I haven't really digested a read on you yet, which is kind of why I wanted to talk to you!Is your Estelle beastman read an early holdover or did you take into account her recent posts as well? Those are what mainly led me off of her.
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2 minutes ago, Nemu Kurotsuchi said:
@Refakitty³ I'm currently working on a catchup, if you've got questions right now, you can ask them and I'll answer them in there or in real time.
Okay, let's do real-time because I have about half an hour rn.
Main reason I thought you looked kinda off is because I wasn't really feeling the direction of your pushes and couldn't mindmeld over what you were thinking at times. Could you explain why you were interested in voting either Sham or Ochako? What made VE's catchup less impressive than C.C's?
On 8/29/2018 at 11:52 AM, Nemu Kurotsuchi said:I'm most interested in voting between Sham/Ochaka atm. The former's case on the latter is partly correct, but nitpicky at times. I can agree with the former looking like trying to fit in, but the latter's reentrance about 12 hours ago of a defence +a single question for Aizen is pretty lackluster.
##Vote: Sham with the caveat that I'm expecting a better return of Ochaka next time and will probably end up hopping a bit here.
Like, for instance here, why vote Sham? I looked through your ISO and it seems like before this vote, you didn't really have any major concerns with her, and in your vote post your only concern is that they look nitpicky and trying to fit in - could you point out where they're doing that?
Also now I see what Estelle was talking about yesterday wrt people clearing C.C. just because she used quotes. :thinking:
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1 minute ago, Kamina said:
Lol12hours
Kamina in. And still pretty far behind but also here to talk while he reads.
Hey, we haven't talked yet this game. What's up, where are you leaning right now?
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Okay I was a little too harsh on Ochako's returning posts, but I still didn't get anything out of them when reading again. @Ochako Uraraka What's your personal take on VE's alignment after your conclusions? Any reason why you chose to look at them? What do you think about C.C., since I think you agreed with Estelle's post about them?
Husbando/Waifu mafia Day 3!
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##Vote: C.C.
I want a hammer on D1 at least, even if we don't need it!