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  1. On 11/29/2019 at 12:20 PM, Dragoncat said:

     

    Heartbeat

    It's said ingame that Byleth has no heartbeat, but I've heard one scene in Crimson Flower (have yet to play) shows Edelgard hearing said heartbeat, so I assume it is there, just fainter than normal.

    This is inaccurate, but it's fine as you hadn't played it.
    The reason why Byleth has no heartbeat

    Spoiler

    is because of Sothis's Heart(Creststone of Sothis/Flame) being used as replacement. It is shattered moment after their final victory and returns the beat to his heart. So it's not just fainter than normal it's just coming back, Edelgard originally thought Byleth died the moment Seiros fell till she felt the beat while holding Byleth.

     

  2. 1 hour ago, omegaxis1 said:

    Note that it says that he is "seen" as one of the chief instigators. The Church knows the event, but likely are not aware of all the details. No record on the Church even mentions how Arundel actually defected to the Kingdom with Edelgard. It seems like the Chruch isn't aware that Edelgard was once a fugitive. When Arundel came back and helped, gaining most power alongside Duke Aegir and being the Regent now, it's just how the Church likely perceives things.

    That's stranger though considering the Church has more connection with the Kingdom than with the Empire, so they should've known about Edelgard on the downlow unless they were deliberately kept secret by Lambert.

  3. Without trying to sound like one of THOSE guys. Edelgard is a rather complex character as several people above have said.

    She's villainous, emotionally cold, and bullheaded about her goal are the aspects one could describe her... if you plays the other routes.

    According to my mild research, outside of her route, only two other routes show her as a somewhat sympathetic villain at her end where the last other route outright shows her as absolute evil.

    Regarding Edelgard herself.

    Spoiler

    In her route, she learns to trust you, confide in you, shows you the proof of her past, in hope that you understands her. She get embarrassed, nervous, anxious while walking her bloodstained path with you because she learned to not lock away her feelings, and you were the one who taught her that, despite the hilarious irony on the fact you don't have any emotions to really show. She spoke to you about her future plan, implying that she was intending to really change the world, and you understood that, either by agreeing or disagreeing (choices are fun). Her confiding in you reveals that she has the same crest as you do going as far as revealing it, showing innumerable trust she has for you, and this wasn't even during the latter part of pre-skip, this was very early on before the turning point I believe it was right before CH7.

    If you had sided with her on chapter 11, she shows absolute shock, disbelief and anxiety and to a degree relieve. She knew you knows her reasons, and thought you would be opposed to her regardless of your stance because going with her meant becoming a sinner in the history. After battling the archbishop the chapter before timeskip begins, she realizes you disappeared during the final blast from Rhea and mourns your status of MIA. Once you came back after five years, she shows uncontainable joy and even hugs you crying.

    Throughout the route she's shown to be more involved with you instead of being out doing shady things as she had 6 years prior.

    And after she had thought you dead once more because of path leading to Rhea's end, she shows regret, believing that she may had chose the wrong path because she truly loved you as a professor (and romance interests inhibited within her.)

    As far as I'm concerned, she's a well-meaning person who simply chose a path that she had no choice in taking. Her path was forcibly laid out in front of her by her past and the scheming conspiracy hidden beneath it. If Sothis was capable of rewinding even further back before the game's start, I believe an alternate route would be possible that leads to her happiness proper without the bloodstained path being present, but alas, Sothis isn't that almighty. However I am glad that Edelgard is the character they chose for this role.

  4. Spoiler

    Correct but she doesn't know that, it's also why I'm partly disappointed with her route to a degree, after clearing the route, their fate are basically CRUSHED by edelgard and her gang as an afterword instead of a series of campaign missions for us to do.

     

    I means I'd be okay with that as an afterword, but Edelgard basically said after she was done conquering Fodlan, she'd wipe out TWSITD, she was only letting them be because she needed their strength to keep Kingdom and the Church in a stalemate. (The Beasts are good contenders against Golems who knew?) So I was hoping for a nice bonus face off against them after it all.

     

  5. 3 hours ago, Omega203 said:

    I don't hate her, but Edelgard fans would probably say that I do.

    What about people who start with Black Eagles?  Do they hate Dimitri?

    I don't particularly hate Dimitri and I did Edelgard's route first, all I have to say he's more of an unlikable individual after the time skip. In fact Edelgard is REALLY likeable in that route for a first impression.

    Edelgard Route spoiler, don't read if you want to learn it yourself.

    Spoiler

    In Edelgard's route, he blames her for the death of his family, I presume this is the Tragedy of Duscur.  He also spent times next to the VERY insane Rhea for 5 years, so yeah make senses he'd become unreasonable while retaining very tiny strand of reasons in regard to his subordinates especially Dedue.

    But it's not actually her doing, but rather her uncle's when he abducted her to Kingdom when she was a child and did all of the unspeakable things to her and her siblings just to create a perfect warrior with a legendary crest. He succeeded in that regard. You can see Flame Emperor making comments of general dislike toward Thales and Kronya after the assassination of Byleth's father stating they will not live, unless this is her route dialogue only. (But I doubt it as she hates them from the start to begin with.)

    In particular I'm actually avoiding Blue Lions till it's only one left because I don't want to see the events surrounding Edelgard in that.

     

  6. 17 minutes ago, Alistair said:

    ...Not sure if Fire Emblem (or high fantasy in general) is built for postmodern fourth-wall fuckery like that (if by "we" you mean "the player"). Not to say it wouldn't be interesting though, since I think you have something more specific in mind.

    More precisely, we play as the villains.

  7. To be fair, for all the hates on Grima is somewhat undeserving, his character isn't even developed, all we know about him is that he just wanna destroy the damn world and that the First Exalt sealed him.

    That's literally it. What drove him to desire the world's destruction? What defined him? How did the First Exalt gain victory over this being of absolute destruction? Why is Naga's power the exact same level as Grima's power? Why is he a Earth Dragon when he's clearly more than that?

    In my own opinion tho Grima wins.

    Anankos can be slayed by anyone if they tried hard enough.

    Grima has power to resurrect himself every time as long as he's not slain by his own host (or his mirror), as long as evil exist, he exist.

    Anankos was driven mad because of him being a dragon, that caused his power to be somewhat weaker as result because a mad dog is easier to put down.

    While Grima is extremely calculating and devious.

    Grima nearly destroyed the world at the time of First Exalt's era.

    Anankos did rat ass.

    Anankos's downfall was result of his own child.

    Grima's downfall was result of his own carelessness. (Travelling back to the past caused Robin to lose memories and gained vague memories of the timeline Alt Grima came from. That alone was fatal for Grima.)

    Naga could not kill Grima because doing so would result Naga's death as well.

    Anankos has no equal to counteract himself.

    I'm just pulling random things at this point, but majority of these Grima wins.

  8. You can choose not to "promote" your lords you know, unlike FE6.

    Ah right.

    [spoiler=Chapter 5]

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    9 turns

    Myrrh got some training here thankfully. Caellach enjoyed a few hits here and there while Valter wiped out majority of the map. Rescued all villages and wiped out bandits, Recruited Rennac and Caellach kills boss.

    [spoiler=Chapter 5x]

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    20 turns

    Wasn't investing on this chapter to train Cormag when I had two undrafted and a traitor, so I decided to hurry it off. Grabbed both chests and immediately ferried Orsen over with Cormag, managed to let Cormag get the finishing blows for some of the units to get 3 levels, Killed boss, traded over a couple essential items from Orsen and seized.

    [spoiler=Chapter 6]

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    3 turns.

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    Sum of the map, Valter in front, flies him over to a mountan tile with javelin equipped first turn. Rest above village to draw fires. Valter moves closer to boss turn 2. Rest heads to fort location. Valter "!"'d into boss location on a forest tile third turn. EP boss suicides after other units fed my units a few more levels.

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