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The bomb role thing isn't an actual bomb, as GP (iirc) pointed out earlier. It's a bomb that destroys the role of the person exploding it, without killing them. So yeah it's probably an SK who killed BBM for ??? reasons given his low activity and troubles to log on

Pfffffffffft, this is extremely dumb because it would mean that scum decided to both drive BBM/Kay and send a kill on BBM. Smart/10

Gonna stop playing the role game now and concentrate on reading people but this is still very important.

Wait I guess it could also come from a special scum kill card, since they apparently get a different category and are hidden after use. That would make more sense since 12/3/1 feels specially wonky with all the potential town appears to have to decimate themselves with vig+suicidevig+lovers (so far) and 13/2/1 would be horrid for scum unless they were incredibly OP. I also just remembered that Poly is still absolutely lost in the lalaland of confirmation bias. Do you think anybody else is likely to be scum aside from me?

Aside from Poly obviously

I'm also going to assume the third kill was caused by an SK since everybody has checked in now and nobody claims to have vigged.

Has to do with a certain use of a C card etc. crumbing utility so that people don't go "rolefishing yada yada"

Fuck me I overlooked something If somebody is town and used the drive card, claim it now because otherwise I'm going to assume it came from scum. This is important.

Kirsche do you think Prims was intentionally avoiding an Eury lynch by dropping her in favor of Psych for bad reasons and that they're buddies?

It's cool that you have little time but you should still vote anyway even if it means oversimplifying the reasons to do so because that's how you play mafia and shit

Randa could also do it so that other people don't suspect him but I don't feel the need to pressure him when he's very likely to be town.

Shin, Eury and Bearclaw, make a case, lay down a vote and give your priorities.

I'll see about Shinori once he gets a replacement and his replacement gets posts going. I don't want to claim I don't believe that bad stuff is happening, but this is mafia and I'm not good at reading into AtE =/ Want scorri in particular to post some scumhunting content because I'm not so sure about my earlier read on her. Also if you're town sorry for being kind of a jerk about the other day. Gonna sign off and do something else, maybe check the thread before I head to sleep if anything. I'm having too much fun with the game and if I stay on the excitement is gonna take a longer while to die off and I'll end up sleeping really late. Sorry about the postspamming, if you guys want me to shut up let me know and I'll try.

Not knowing the target's hand until D2 results is why I said I think it's likely scum WIFOM. I initially theorized that Kaiba was scum and they were trying to frame him as town getting stalked by scum, in case they ever got run up and had to claim. But the thing about Pegasus-crumb makes sense and there are probably many other uses for announcer that I can't think of so eh.

Non-RNG'd hands are extremely obvious after the Psych flip but I'm a VT with seemingly random cards so yeah I'll keep my last card's use hidden if you guys don't mind. Shinori's only reason to vote me was "don't lynch Eury" and he would've been forced to read and put out a post. It's easy to say "scum would've done X instead" in hindsight, but at that juncture scum had everything to gain by sitting on my wagon because I was really close to being the day's lynch. I actually expected to wake up to my flip the following morning since getting a last minute wagon on Psych seemed hard to achieve with kirsche/SB gone and all of the people that had been barely active throughout the day.

I also had no hints at all towards people's cards being intentionally themed towards certain roles (see my reaction to Poly's claim and my talk about loverizer being RNG'd or not) because my cards seemed so random and felt like I was just given an RNG'd set of roles.

Elieson is scolding me on skype for not shutting up, lol I'm like 90% town on Poly, Prims and Randa, SB is at 75% town. Prims' review on Shinori towards the end of the game is cool. I could see town!Shinori doing some of the stuffs like mistaking somebody for Balc who wasn't even playing, but overall 6/10 case would consider giving my vote. What sells it to me is that rereading deadline, Shinori wasn't giving much of a shit about anything but defending Eury. His vote on me towards the end of the day was purely a "don't lynch Eury" vote, never elaborating on why he thought I was likely scum, and what I find worst is that he never reacted to the Psych wagon building. He disappeared after promising content, was hanging around the thread for a while afterwards and never made any mention to the Psych wagon (which was starting right at the time he last posted). I've been scum recently enough to remember how hard it is to put out legit-looking content at deadline, and it looks like Shinori just couldn't come up with anything and decided to poof. ##Unvote ##Vote: Shinori Cut by Prims, well this is building fast. Cut again. I never said I had a doc shot, I was making sure I wasn't getting NK'd by claiming all of my less useful powers. I'm essentially a shitty backup JoaT with situational utility.

"I choose to kill Prims with the hologram of the Blue Eyes White Dragon that causes ferocious winds and physical/mental injury (depending on what the plot requires) despite not being a real thing" Announcer ability is probably scum WIFOMing because I fail to see how that announcement could ever come from town. I fail to see why they would use an announcer ability instead of something useful like a redirect, roleblock or whatever though. BBM probably got targeted by whoever/whatever the third killer was. If the janvig empowered the scum factional kill then I doubt the third kill came from scum as well, with what I'm assuming right now (which may STILL be wrong because I suck at roles) it has to have been a vig without card or an SK. Also like I mentioned earlier I think Shinori is possibly scum and when I stop getting distracted by role shenanigans I'll get to that

Wait I didn't read the kill cards thing, I'm dumb and you're right

Janitor card says explicitly it empowers a [CARD] And all cards including the Janitor card explicitly say you can't use another card until the next phase.

Also everybody else probably read it but @Randa. I used a doc shot instead of the loverizer card, which is why it isn't in the graveyard, it's still in my hand.

lol I was implying that my other cards were blank cards, not saying that I had only 3 cards. Anybody else targetting Kay or BBM should confirm Poly's redirection claim. The janitor card was used and there's a janitor kill, which I think means that scum are allowed to use cards to boost a card from another team member instead of being limited to boosting their own (which makes sense considering that empowering a nightkill one night ahead really screws scum in case that role shenanigans happen to confirm somebody unexpectedly). Now the issue with this is that apparently the Janitor card specifically empowers cards only? I'm ??? on the extra unaccounted kill though, if the bomb was a rolebomb and not a regular bomb, and Kay/BBM were driven, it means that Kay was likely killed by an SK using a juggernaut (unlikely given that she was already likely to get vigged) or targetting BBM (which makes sense as a kill for ITP if they were expecting him to come back to play the game at some point)

...wait I'm dumb. The jankill was a card and not a factional ability so all the kills are accounted for and it's very unlikely for that vig card to have been coming from scum. Unless somebody has vig as their role ability, they shot somebody and my doc on Prims was successful. Cut. Apparently I actually have to read the full card descriptions instead of glancing over the card role names

Poly why didn't you claim your vig was also potentially a dayvig.

I'm back Currently processing the card graveyard. It's entirely possible that somebody made Bal into a bomb given the Bomb enabler card, but the player choice is extremely odd since they'd have had to assume the existence of a 1-shot janitor and be aiming directly at potential janvig targets instead of NK targets. Poly, were you just told you were redirected or were you told you were redirected onto BBM specifically?