Ragnell Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 (edited) First of all, I do not believe this, it just makes a bit of sense and is very funny. I heard about this at my high school from a couple of funny guys in math, and built on it myself. All right, here it is. Every student learns that 0 is nothing, and that there is no -0. This is false. Negative zero links negative infinity and infinity. Since 0 is nothing, negative 0 is everything. Or another way of putting this is that 1 is 1 away from zero, so its opposite is 1 away from 0 the other way. 0 is 0 away from 0, so -0 is all places away from 0. So in reality there is no number line, but a number circle. Also, when you divide by 0, you get undefined. In fact, this is -0. It is called undefined because as you decrease a positive denominator, it gets larger. But if you increase a negative denominator, it shrinks. So undefined is both negative and positive infinity. And -0 is both, so it is undefined. And finally, I'll say this again, I don't believe this. There is probably gobs of evidence to disprove this, but it is clever. Edited December 12, 2008 by Ragnell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny Hero Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 You can't have infinite nothing, though. It's like having no apples, and every apple in the world at the same time, in a world where there are many apples. It's a nice idea, but it's flawed. That'd also mean that 1 is only 1 number away from infinity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolDeath Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 That's a pretty fun idea to kick around, actually, thanks for posting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalis Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Funny, actually. I was having the same conversation today. See, I like to call -0, 0i because 0 is without a doubt the only neutral number. That way, it is always possible to link the positives and negatives yet still allows the single neutral number to be a place holder like in 0.001x10. Having a negative neutral explodes the world, and no matter what I say when 0/0 or 1/0 and so on, {x|x>-.0000000001>-0) proves false, but if it were 0i, anything is possible. 0 is the neutral portal from positive to negative, keeping 0.000000000001x10^100 and -0.000000000000001x10^100 massively apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judas Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Psuedo-intellectualism at it's best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolDeath Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 I find that post to top it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalis Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Basically, if you want to joke around with -0, try calling it 0i and math teacher's will follow XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnell Posted December 12, 2008 Author Share Posted December 12, 2008 (edited) I have another funny little math question. If, when 0 is in the numerator, the fraction equals 0, then what is 0/0? Is it zero or undefined? The calculator would say undefined, but what is it really? Edited December 12, 2008 by Ragnell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalis Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 TI-86 says error, cannot divide by 0. =\ this proves true for all numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteor Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 -0 = 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalis Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 In mathematical terms there is no concept of a negative (or positive) zero, and −0 is equal to, and represented as, zero, however a similar concept of the one-sided limit of 0 approached from below is normally denoted by 0− or ↑0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteor Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Yes, I am familiar with limits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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