Gamemast Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 Just a question I’ve been having. Are the crest the characters have like the brands that Chrom/Robin or the Holy blood of the Jugdral cast? If so how did they get them if they were the enemy of those dragons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Alear Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 (edited) It seems like crests can be bestowed through some kind of process. We know Jeralt got his from Rhea, and the crest of flames in Byleth was also done through Rhea/Sitri stuff. But Edelgard was bestowed her crest of flames not by lineage (though her Hresvelg crest was from lineage I think), nor by draconic intervention, but by experimentation of TWSITD. So you don't even need draconic blessing every time to bestow a crest. Maybe the crests were ultimately only available through dragon lineage/blessing, but Edelgard at the very least got her second crest seemingly without direct draconic involvement at all. That also means it is possible that the 10 elites were bestowed with crests through slaying and experimenting with dragons, rather than being blessed by the dragons, especially considering that we know they made the crest weapons with bones from dragons (all Sothis?). I don't think the game ever truly clarifies if the 10 elites were ever really on the side of the Nabateans, but it's also possible that they obtained their crests prior to the conflict between those two factions arose. Edited September 19 by Original Alear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotari Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 (edited) In terms of narrative and functional use in the lore, yes, they seem to be the exact same thing under different names. 1 hour ago, Original Alear said: It seems like crests can be bestowed through some kind of process. We know Jeralt got his from Rhea, and the crest of flames in Byleth was also done through Rhea/Sitri stuff. But Edelgard was bestowed her crest of flames not by lineage (though her Hresvelg crest was from lineage I think), nor by draconic intervention, but by experimentation of TWSITD. So you don't even need draconic blessing every time to bestow a crest. Maybe the crests were ultimately only available through dragon lineage/blessing, but Edelgard at the very least got her second crest seemingly without direct draconic involvement at all. That also means it is possible that the 10 elites were bestowed with crests through slaying and experimenting with dragons, rather than being blessed by the dragons, especially considering that we know they made the crest weapons with bones from dragons (all Sothis?). I don't think the game ever truly clarifies if the 10 elites were ever really on the side of the Nabateans, but it's also possible that they obtained their crests prior to the conflict between those two factions arose. The fact that the different crests interact with the different weapons would suggest the elites killed and drank the blood of 12 (10 Elites+Nemesis+Maurice) different dragons and that each relic comes from the bones of a different dragon. Edited September 19 by Jotari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanty Pete's 1st Mate Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 1 hour ago, Jotari said: The fact that the different crests interact with the different weapons would suggest the elites killed and drank the blood of 12 (10 Elites+Nemesis+Maurice) different dragons and that each relic comes from the bones of a different dragon. Building off of this, it appears that Crest inheritance is "Lamarckian" in a sense. Which is to say, if a person obtains their Crest in life, they will pass it on to (at least some of) their descendants. This applies whether the Crest was obtained from a slain Nabatean (as in the Ten Elites), or from one still living (as in the Four Saints). One more thing - "Blood Pact", in an FE context, usually refers to a plot device in Radiant Dawn. One which has nothing to do with dragons, but does cause certain brands to manifest upon the skin. But I don't imagine you were referring to that element? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamemast Posted September 20 Author Share Posted September 20 36 minutes ago, Shanty Pete's 1st Mate said: One more thing - "Blood Pact", in an FE context, usually refers to a plot device in Radiant Dawn. One which has nothing to do with dragons, but does cause certain brands to manifest upon the skin. But I don't imagine you were referring to that element? Oh I think I actually knew that.. haven’t played RD so not really holding by knowing how it works there. Was using the term to refer to how humans receive the draconian power usually through some sort of blood mixing procedure or something. sorry if my use of the term led to any confusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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