Media Junkie Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 Pokemon Battling TiersFor those too lazy to click... Thanks! Put me down as a maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Rabbit Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 Keep in mind that Garchomp jumped from OU to Uber tier in Platinum. Outrage became a MT move and Garchomp became damn near unstoppable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSu Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 Seriously? I doubt that made Garchomp an Uber, cuz I'm pretty sure Salamance>Garchomp, and Sal isn't über. And I thought the Wobbufet über was being debated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Spoon Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 Garchomp became uber because Yachechomp was gaurenteed to KO at least one pokemon. Smogon has the most up to date tier list. Lol @ no evasion clause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSu Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 Dang. Is it really that unfair? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seph Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 The only pokemon that can counter it well in OU is Trick Cresselia with Reflect. So yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Rabbit Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 (edited) You can use it as long as it isn't influenced by platinum Move Tutors. I think... Edited December 28, 2008 by Metal Arc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom103 Posted December 28, 2008 Author Share Posted December 28, 2008 Let me look on smogon Here is the updated list, so yeah he's uber :/ http://www.smogon.com/dp/tiers/uber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireman Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 You can use it as long as it isn't influenced by platinum Move Tutors.I think... Actually...I think it's still uber without influence from Platinum Move Tutors. (That is, if you're referring to the fact that he can learn Outrage, which he already could in D/P.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Rabbit Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 I didn't know that he could until after I posted it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Kilvas Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 (edited) Wait...so we can't bring Garchomp? It's an uber? That thing is so easy to take out! It's great and all. but I don't consider it an uber at all, or anything near one. :/ Edited December 29, 2008 by Princess Kilvas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noremaC Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 (edited) Nope, no garchomp at all as of what I know. >.> Guess i will get back to training <.< Luckily Garchomp was the next thing i was going to train, but now that i know this i will find something new. thank god my friend came over so i wouldn't already be training it when i found out he is uber. Edited December 29, 2008 by Noremac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireman Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 (edited) Wait...so we can't bring Garchomp? It's an uber? That thing is so easy to take out! It's great and all. but I don't consider it an uber at all, or anything near one. :/ Not Yachechomp. If you use Yachechomp, it will probably always take you at least two Pokemon to counter it, or in General Spoon's words: Yachechomp is guaranteed to always KO one of your Pokemon. Edited December 29, 2008 by Fireman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Kilvas Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 (edited) Nope, no garchomp at all as of what I know. >.> Guess i will get back to training <.< Luckily Garchomp was the next thing i was going to train, but now that i know this i will find something new. thank god my friend came over so i wouldn't already be training it when i found out he is uber. But WHY is it considered uber? It's so easy to kill!! Just because it's "unstoppable" I know I spelled that wrong... cuz it can learn Outrage? Tyranitar and Dragonite can learn Outrage. And they're FAR better Through my experiences.... Would that make Tyranitar and/or Dragonite uber as well? EDIT: Damn, sorry Fireman. I posted too late. Sorry...^^' So we can still have Garchomp? Just so Yache berry? Even with a berry though, ice still kills it in one hit through my experiences... Edited December 29, 2008 by Princess Kilvas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireman Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 (edited) I found a quote that may explain why he's an uber other than just Yachechomp: They say he's uber because of his relatively high stats (mainly HP, Attack & Speed) as well as how unpredictable it is. You never know if it's a scarfchomp, yachechomp, or chain chomp and when you do, you'll most likely lose a poke finding out. It usually takes two pokes to counter Garchomp. Even if you have a good wall, it wouldn't be a good switch in once Garchomp sets up swords dance. When sand veil is in play, Garchomp can take more hits if it does take affect. You need a good amount of sp atk EVs in order to KO Garchomp with Ice Beam and A LOT for HP Ice, Ice Fang/Punch/Shard can do a lot too, but the only poke that can OHKO and be faster is weavile which you'll need to always carry around if you want to counter a Garchomp. Even if you have Weavile, you'd still need to sacrifice a poke in order to ensure a safe switch-in because it won't be taking a hit from Garchomp unless it sashes. Weavile's awesome. Edited December 29, 2008 by Fireman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noremaC Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 (edited) *goes to make a team consisting of 6 weaviles* But them his low hp and defense would be a problem........ Edited December 29, 2008 by Noremac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireman Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 (edited) *goes to make a team consisting of 6 weaviles* *goes to remind Noremac he can't use it in the tourney* But them his low hp and defense would be a problem........ Not if you can kill your opponent really fast. Edited December 29, 2008 by Fireman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noremaC Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 *goes to kill fireman's family* Fine...............1 weavile, 1 sneasal, 1 garchomp, 1 blissey, 1 marowak, 1 crobat..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Kilvas Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 (edited) I found a quote that may explain why he's an uber other than just Yachechomp:Weavile's awesome. Ah. So no Garchomp at all? Sorry Hueghes...=( I still don't consider it uber. But that's just me. =l And yes. I need to finish training mine. (I named it Fireman. It's a part of meh Serenes Team) XD EDIT: WAIT! About items. Is Soul Dew allowed? In official tournaments it isn't...neither is Wobbaffet + Leftovers... . I want to make sure.. Edited December 29, 2008 by Princess Kilvas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noremaC Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 (edited) Also, if wobbufett is uber, is wynaut s well? I need to think of names for my team.... so far i have a luxray named lil piel and a marowak named bonerific..... Edited December 29, 2008 by Noremac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireman Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Also, if wobbufett is uber, is wynaut s well?I need to think of names for my team.... so far i have a luxray named lil piel and a marowak named bonerific..... Wynaut's not uber. The only reason I would see why it wouldn't be uber while Wobbuffet is is because Wobbuffet can take a hit while Wynaut.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noremaC Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 *burns fireman's law book* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireman Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 (edited) Ah. So no Garchomp at all? Sorry Hueghes...=( I still don't consider it uber. But that's just me. =lAnd yes. I need to finish training mine. (I named it Fireman. It's a part of meh Serenes Team) XD EDIT: WAIT! About items. Is Soul Dew allowed? In official tournaments it isn't...neither is Wobbaffet + Leftovers... . I want to make sure.. Well, you can still give the Soul Dew to one of your Pokemon if you want. Just not Latios or Latias seeing as how they're uber. ;) Edited December 29, 2008 by Fireman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Kilvas Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 (edited) Well, you can still give the Soul Dew to one of your Pokemon if you want. Just not Latios or Latias seeing as how they're banned. ;) ... Ack, sorry. I don't remember seeing them on this list a page or so back...Sorry...I'm used to The Official Tournament rules. :( What about Wobba+Leftovers? Edited December 29, 2008 by Princess Kilvas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noremaC Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 But doesn't it only effect them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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