Ϲharlie Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Throw a baby into the wilderness and have funThat's a dumb thing to say. Newborns of many species aren't fit to survive on their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruity Insanity Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Throw a baby into the wilderness and have fun Try fighting a lion. Or a tiger. Or an alligator. Or a bear. etc. You see, there are a good number of animal species that can wreck our shit up. We have to hide behind our inventions. do we run fast are we good swimmers do we have a tough skin do we have natural weapons So you guys are talking about physical strength? :-/ Then yeah, I agree. But humans are still far superior to any animal out there. I WAS TALKING ABOUT OUR INTELLIGENCE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaze Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 furthermore we've gotten pretty lazy next to the first men And winter is coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnd Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) gravity 1, baby 0golden goal too I don't geeeeet is this a lolcalization joke? Okay, there's no hope Nah, just the spoiler Glad you understand That's a dumb thing to say. Newborns of many species aren't fit to survive on their own.Sure But humans stay quite the long time without being able to survive on their own Modern humans at least So you guys are talking about physical strength? :-/ Then yeah, I agree. But humans are still far superior to any animal out there. I WAS TALKING ABOUT OUR INTELLIGENCE! Since when is intelligence strength Have you never played D&D Also, I'd like you to discuss your superiority when you're alone and naked in the middle of a savanna Edited January 29, 2014 by TheEnd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaze Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 So you guys are talking about physical strength? :-/ Then yeah, I agree. But humans are still far superior to any animal out there. I WAS TALKING ABOUT OUR INTELLIGENCE! Missing the point again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 So you guys are talking about physical strength? :-/ Then yeah, I agree. But humans are still far superior to any animal out there. I WAS TALKING ABOUT OUR INTELLIGENCE! depends. I think animals tend to be more intelligent than us in their natural habitat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Tarrasque Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 As technology advances, human beings become weaker in some sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruity Insanity Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) Since when is intelligence strength Have you never played D&D Also, I'd like you to discuss your superiority when you're alone and naked in the middle of a savanna Since forever. To make up for the lack of physical strength, humans used the resources around them to their advantage. That intellectual property that humans have, of course seen in animal species as well, is unrivaled. Nope! Of course, I can make the same argument. Put a lion in an ocean and see how it does. A whale in a desert. An alligator in Antarctica. Humans are, in fact, the most widespread mammalian species (or not? Maybe mice are around everywhere, too). They live in the cold north, the hot deserts, jungles, mountains. They are strong because of their ability to adapt WHICH COMES FROM THEIR INTELLIGENCE! Missing the point again. ;~; I probably am. depends. I think animals tend to be more intelligent than us in their natural habitat. Intelligent? Or advantageous? There's a difference. Edited January 29, 2014 by Not-an-Apple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruity Insanity Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 As technology advances, human beings become weaker in some sense. Walllllleeeeeeee! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Since forever. To make up for the lack of physical strength, humans used the resources around them to their advantage. That intellectual property that humans have, of course seen in animal species as well, is unrivaled. Nope! Of course, I can make the same argument. Put a lion in an ocean and see how it does. A whale in a desert. An alligator in Antarctica. Humans are, in fact, the most widespread mammalian species (not). They live in the cold north, the hot deserts, jungles, mountains. They are strong because of their ability to adapt WHICH COMES FROM THEIR INTELLIGENCE! ;~; Intelligent? Or advantageous? There's a difference. both, I'm not exactly sure it's instinct. But Animals I'm sure would be able to identify certain plants and animals much better than we do. Of course most animals have a keen sense of smell but us humans tend to have much better sight than most animals do but there have been tons of humans that have been killed by eating poison. Plus they seem to be able to hear better. Also most animals are MUCH more independent than we are. I consider that intelligence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ϲharlie Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Since when is intelligence strengthIntelligence it the most powerful thing. Why do you think Batman always beats Superman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Envoy of the Beginning Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Intelligence it the most powerful thing. Why do you think Batman always beats Superman? Because you are a Batman fanboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Tarrasque Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Even the WISE WHAMU recognized that there is strength that can topple intelligence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruity Insanity Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) both, I'm not exactly sure it's instinct. But Animals I'm sure would be able to identify certain plants and animals much better than we do. Of course most animals have a keen sense of smell but us humans tend to have much better sight than most animals do but there have been tons of humans that have been killed by eating poison. Plus they seem to be able to hear better. Also most animals are MUCH more independent than we are. I consider that intelligence. in·tel·li·gence inˈtelijəns/ noun the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills. By this definition, humans are the epitome of intelligence. No other species compete, whether they have intelligence or not. Edited January 29, 2014 by Not-an-Apple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 intelligence is powerful. What if we had no brain but had the strongest muscles in the world? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnd Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) As technology advances, human beings become weaker in some sense.Human adaptability doesn't judge whether the things it's discarding are good or bad, after all Just whether they're needed or not Since forever. To make up for the lack of physical strength, humans used the resources around them to their advantage. That intellectual property that humans have, of course seen in animal species as well, is unrivaled. Nope! Intelligence is strength in the same way intellectual property is property Note: Intellectual property wanted to be property because property is so cool It shows I'd like to see how your STR-based mage would perform Though there are 3E sourcebooks that would allow muscle magic, and 4E is silly Of course, I can make the same argument. Put a lion in an ocean and see how it does. A whale in a desert. An alligator in Antarctica. Humans are, in fact, the most widespread mammalian species. They live in the cold north, the hot deserts, jungles, mountains.I don't even need to say anything anymore Intelligence it the most powerful thing. Why do you think Batman always beats Superman? Because you are a Batman fanboyThis is an argument There are many others, but that's the one most suited to the highly scientific level of our discussion Edited January 29, 2014 by TheEnd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon of Sin Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Though there are 3E sourcebooks that would allow fist magic, and 4E is silly ryu for best fist mage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ϲharlie Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Dan >>> Ryu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Tarrasque Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) Human adaptability doesn't judge whether the things it's discarding are good or bad, after all Just whether they're needed or not Sadly, in many cases that word is swapped for want/desire. Edited January 29, 2014 by Sirius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaze Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 ;~; I probably am. What good is intelligence if you are up against a bear, lion, tiger, wolf, or another predator by yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ϲharlie Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Even the WISE WHAMU recognized that there is strength that can topple intelligenceAnd yet Wham was beaten not because Joseph was stronger, but because he used his wits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 okay probably messed up a bit their. such as hearing. But like I said. They can learn to identify things a lot better than we can. they can find a decent shelter much quicker than we can. Yes we might be better at devising systems. But Animals can find places to collect nuts and stuff for winter. I will stop there for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon of Sin Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) Dan >>> Ryu dan is the fistest mage Edited January 29, 2014 by Woodshooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnd Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) Sadly, in many cases that word is swapped for want/desire.Subjective needs Making mankind weaker since (???) dan is the fistest mageIf only I were playing a wacky 3E campaign Our DM is even allowing players to freely make characters at 400k experience now, after all Edited January 29, 2014 by TheEnd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 What good is intelligence if you are up against a bear, lion, tiger, wolf, or another predator by yourself? I kind of have to disagree there. I think you have intelligence you can play with animals instincts if you know the animal well. (This of course makes me sound like a hypocrite because then humans do possess some good intelligence.) But animals can can do the same. But anyway if you are a person that has studied up on an animal than you may be able to use the animals emotions. For example you may be able to run the animal into a river. Some animals can't swim. But I don't know enough on say how fast this animals that you listed can run on average than we can run. Man my points kind of don't go into much detail but i am a bit lazy so sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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