FE4 THREAD

[NTG]

I don't steal things.

Of course not.

[James Bond]

back...

[Chalis]

Shoddy hasn't even updated to HGSS movesets, has it?

[AstraLunaSol]

I hate paralysis.

[Kriemhild]

Shoddy hasn't even updated to HGSS movesets, has it?

They have. But I don't they updated after the movie came out, so Raikou doesn't have Aura Sphere yet.

[Altera the Hun]

You sure about that?

Yeah, since 1) it uses DVDs, and 2) you'd need a mod chip.

[NoNameAtAll]

So Cynthia returns in B/W...neat.

[Altera the Hun]

So Cynthia returns in B/W...neat.

The pedophile is back.

[AstraLunaSol]

So Cynthia returns in B/W...neat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXbP6VG87NM&feature=related

[James Bond]

hello Tangerine

[Chalis]

Holy shit.

I actually know why I like yaoi. This is absolutely groundbreaking.

[Altera the Hun]

[Rei Rei]

Holy shit.

I actually know why I like yaoi. This is absolutely groundbreaking.

Are we supposed to cheer and be happy?

[Rei Rei]

At least post the Simpsons version.

[AstraLunaSol]

ReiRei is kicking too much ass. -.-

Unfortunately he has low EXP gain.

[Altera the Hun]

Are we supposed to cheer and be happy?

Yaoi is involved. Of course not.

[Altera the Hun]

At least post the Simpsons version.

What, this version?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PyBWLALFLQ&feature=related

[BEST TRYNDAMERE PLAYER]

ReiRei is kicking too much ass. -.-

Unfortunately he has low EXP gain.

Rei is pretty much the Jeigan of Pokemon Black/White.

Edited September 19, 2010 by Joey

[Rei Rei]

ReiRei is kicking too much ass. -.-

Unfortunately he has low EXP gain.

AAAAH MULEQUE

Yaoi is involved. Of course not.

Why di- ah, fuckit.

What, this version?

Yes.

[Rei Rei]

Rei is pretty much the Jeigan of Pokemon Black/White.

[Chalis]

Are we supposed to cheer and be happy?

(...)Another problem with Nardicio's statement is that he acts like women objectifying men would be a positive thing (if doing so was even possible), but such a thing would not improve matters. Reducing anyone to his or her use-value strips him or her of dignity. (...) Perpetuating a cycle of bourgeois consumption of images of working class men does not help women, as this society is set up to commodify us as well. [so] objectifying working class men in no way furthers the feminist cause.

Fortunately, women who create yaoi are not aiming to do that. We create enriched worlds in our stories, comics, movies, and anime, giving the characters an emotional depth and dignity, portraying them in egalitarian relationships as people, not commodities. Ironically, our unreal men are more real than the men in playgirl or gay porn, who are portrayed in ways that work to make the audience forget about the humanity of those in the footage, to reduce them to objects. Because yaoi has no stake in precipitating patriarchy as pornography does, it never has a need to reduce (and it couldn't anyway, as women have no physical whores) the men it portrays to anything short of human.

It is precisely these ideas that make yaoi not pornography like the CLICK HERE FOR BIG COCKS AND HOT BABES is pornography. Yaoi does not depict whores or prostitutes for those who have greater power to consume. And prostitutes can be men. This is why gay porn is still porn. But prostitutes exist for men. Prostitution and pornography are integral to continuing a patriarchal cycle of male ownership and dominance over property and commodities. Pornography does not depict relationships, it depicts the man penetrating the whore (be the whore female or male), the subject capturing the object. But as Dworkin states, in porn, the camera acts as a phallus, and in gay porn, we can consider the camera to be the REAL phallus: it is the camera that allows the man with the disposable income to take ownership of the whores depicted in the porn he consumes. All porn asserts bourgeois man's position and ability to control bodies because it is he who controls production, it is he who creates, sells, and buys. Pornography featuring women, however, serves to the direct detriment of women as not only is the whore captured, but the name “whore” that makes her a commodity, is perpetuated over and over, and used against all women, even bourgeois women in a higher social class. No woman is immune from the word “whore.” All of us have either been called it, thought to be it, have been framed in relation to it. Thus, men can read romance novels as depicted "whores," although they do no[t], because men have the power to dub sensual women whore, as they have, what Dworkin calls the power of naming (17). Yaoi, however, liberates women from this cycle of degradation.

How? First consider the power of naming and what it entails. Turn on the TV and you can't avoid women with big breasts, with perfect, tanned, shimmering legs, red lips, flushed cheeks, high heels. A woman can be reduced to her usable, sexual, fetishized components. Open up an anatomy book: the default body is male. What separates female from male is nothing more than the extraneous adornments that men can use for sexual enjoyment. Any depiction of a women cannot escape this. Put her in a long skirt to cover up her legs, her breasts are still there, only depict a flat chested women, she wears high heels to sexualize her feet, has eroticized lips or hair. Take away more and she is only a woman by name, but she can still be defined as other women are by how she falls short of fulfilling her use-value for men. Take away the name and she ceases to be a woman.

Remember the genderless angels I described in the first yaoi created? What I outlined above, stripping a woman of fetishized body parts, leads us to yaoi. Most yaoi features two men, an uke (which translates roughly to “receiver,” describing the guy on the “bottom”) and a seme (“attacker,” the guy on top). The uke is often practically a woman stripped of fetishized female parts and with a penis. Ukes often think like women-- (a reviewer from Publisher's Weekly likens the uke protagonist of My Paranoid Next Door Neighbor to “a heroine in a Harlequin romance novel” and this is not uncommon), and often inhabit the passive position in a relationship women traditionally are depicted having with one important key difference: they are not called women and they cannot be fetishized as women. This way, women reading yaoi, who often identify with the uke, escape the male naming and male fetishization and objectification. Though a man can open a romance novel and, even on the rare occasion that a romance novelist hasn't internalized patriarchal constructions of female submissiveness, he can reduce the woman in its pages to “whore,” if he looks at yaoi, no matter how feminine an uke is, because an uke is named “man,” has no fetishized female parts, and has a penis, a man cannot use a sexual depiction of an uke with a seme to degrade women.(...)

Edited September 19, 2010 by Chalis

[AstraLunaSol]

Rei is pretty much the Jeigan of Pokemon Black/White.

Only he comes in about....3 chapters late.

Still kicking ass.

Still barely gaining EXP.

[Rei Rei]

Still barely gaining EXP.

Feed me bosses!

[Icon of Sin]

Yes.

What about this?

[Altera the Hun]

What about this?

Not the same song, but...

Edited September 19, 2010 by Battler Ushiromiya