Seph Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 In the term of usefulness Sety is superior. Hmm well in Chapter 7, the hardest chapter of the game, Shanan is your best character. And in Chapter 8. He comes at the end of it. Also remember less enemies are attacking Levin!Sety. And we are talking about 1 on 1 here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fia Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 I only like debates with subjects like "should character y get higher on tier list of game x", with one argumentating against the character, and the other on the character's defense.It's not as pointless as a MAGE x SOCIAL KNIGHT debate. I mostly don't bother with tier lists, since my opinion is biased and full of abuses. XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seph Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Well, while it's true that she's been a bit rebellious as of late, I believe it would be unwise to spank my daughter. She's a young woman already, you know. Very well, but she must be punished. Sety can attack from distance. It's natural that he'd be the one attacking first, while Shanan is still dashing. What bullshit is this. They start close to each other with equal range. That has no logic at all. The one with higher speed starts first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drayano Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Ranged Balmung wins all If Levin's on he'll post here anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fia Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 Well, while it's true that she's been a bit rebellious as of late, I believe it would be unwise to spank my daughter. She's a young woman already, you know. Re-rebellious? Daddy, how? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rei Rei Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I mostly don't bother with tier lists, since my opinion is biased and full of abuses. XD But that is with non-abuse tiers. AND NO BIASES, YOU HEAR THAT WELL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seph Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 You guys need to back up your points instead of repeating it over and over again. Levin being here wouldn't change a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yud Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Edgard, can you explain why Shanan would not win? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fia Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 But that is with non-abuse tiers.AND NO BIASES, YOU HEAR THAT WELL. That's why I don't bother with tier lists. >.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drayano Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Let's just say Alvis > both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rei Rei Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 That's why I don't bother with tier lists. >.> Because they're fair? :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fia Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 If Levin's on he'll post here anyway. There is a chance he won't see your post. =< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yud Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 That's why I don't bother with tier lists. >.> In case you don't remember, Nanna, I may have made a proposition to you. But in case you decline, be sure to note that you aren't declining anything, as I never made a proposition to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seph Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Let's just say Alvis > both What? Alvis has 140 hit. Shanan has 124 avoid. Alvis has 16 % accuracy. Shanan wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fia Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 Let's just say Alvis > both Indeed. Because they're fair? :P Maaaaaybe? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drayano Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 There is a chance he won't see your post. =< Quite, quite. I'll just request it again~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seph Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Indeed. This is absolute nonsense. Alvis has 15 AS and 3 luck, so 33 avoid. Shanan has 100% accuracy on him. 70% with Greatshield. 70/100 = 7/10. He will be hitting 7/10 times. Then, Alvis. Alvis has 16% accuracy. 16/100 = 8/50 = 4/25. Logic. use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fia Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 Quite, quite.I'll just request it again~ k then. => Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rei Rei Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Maaaaaybe? :) Just maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drayano Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 This is absolute nonsense.Alvis has 15 AS and 3 luck, so 33 avoid. Shanan has 100% accuracy on him. 70% with Greatshield. 70/100 = 7/10. He will be hitting 7/10 times. Then, Alvis. Alvis has 16% accuracy. 16/100 = 8/50 = 4/25. Logic. use it. Alvis is awesome. This discounts your logic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fia Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 This is absolute nonsense.Alvis has 15 AS and 3 luck, so 33 avoid. Shanan has 100% accuracy on him. 70% with Greatshield. 70/100 = 7/10. He will be hitting 7/10 times. Then, Alvis. Alvis has 16% accuracy. 16/100 = 8/50 = 4/25. Logic. use it. My logic says that Alvis rapes Shanan. This happened in my game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drayano Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Just maybe? MAYBE IT'S MAYBELLINE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnd Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 (edited) This is absolute nonsense.Alvis has 15 AS and 3 luck, so 33 avoid. Shanan has 100% accuracy on him. 70% with Greatshield. 70/100 = 7/10. He will be hitting 7/10 times. Then, Alvis. Alvis has 16% accuracy. 16/100 = 8/50 = 4/25. Logic. use it. You forgot the leadership stars. And the fact that Alvis may pretty much OHKO Shanan with his +10 magic bruteforce Falaflame (lol 70 attack). My logic says that Alvis rapes Shanan. This happened in my game. I remember Baron + Castle = hax evade in emulated Seisen, but I can't remember if the same was true for Emperors. Either way, Castle + Leadership + lol Falaflame + Awareness = "don't send anybody other than Aless or Celice there, retard" Edited January 23, 2009 by Finn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fia Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 Just maybe? Yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seph Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 You forgot the leadership stars.And the fact that Alvis may pretty much OHKO Shanan with his +10 magic bruteforce Falaflame (lol 70 attack). Alvis can affect himself with leadership stars? It doesn't matter. The difference in hit / avoid is too high. And we are talking about 80 HP / 30 luck Shanan. It's unfair? We are talking about the same for Sety too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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