Fayt Zelpher Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 kk, (thanks). Sometimes, just reading something doesn't make it completely clear, it helps to have a person explain it. You're welcome. I hope it makes sense to you now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Anacybele Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Ike, Boyd, Oscar, and Kieran for me. They always come out owning everything in their paths. XD Oh, and Shinon, but only in RD. And on the couple matter, I agree that Ike/Elincia is the best couple, but I never thought about how much opportunity they had to support. Yeah, they don't get much. Still, if IS wanted to officially pair them up, they could have made their support already boosted by default at the start of the game, like Micaiah and Sothe, though not necessarily to A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted January 25, 2010 Author Share Posted January 25, 2010 Ike, Boyd, Oscar, and Kieran for me. They always come out owning everything in their paths. XD Oh, and Shinon, but only in RD. And on the couple matter, I agree that Ike/Elincia is the best couple, but I never thought about how much opportunity they had to support. Yeah, they don't get much. Still, if IS wanted to officially pair them up, they could have made their support already boosted by default at the start of the game, like Micaiah and Sothe, though not necessarily to A. There was a lot more focus on Geoffrey/Elincia in this game. And even in PoR, it was established that Geoffrey was head over heels in love with Elincia. I couldn't see Ike marrying Elincia anyway... they're too different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Ike, Boyd, Oscar, and Kieran for me. They always come out owning everything in their paths. XD Oh, and Shinon, but only in RD. And on the couple matter, I agree that Ike/Elincia is the best couple, but I never thought about how much opportunity they had to support. Yeah, they don't get much. Still, if IS wanted to officially pair them up, they could have made their support already boosted by default at the start of the game, like Micaiah and Sothe, though not necessarily to A. There was a lot more focus on Geoffrey/Elincia in this game. And even in PoR, it was established that Geoffrey was head over heels in love with Elincia. I couldn't see Ike marrying Elincia anyway... they're too different. :/ Geoffrey never looked to me like he was in love with Elincia, nor vice versa. Though I never did do the support system in RD, I'll admit. Still, the relationship between Geoffrey and Elincia looked more like brotherly/sisterly love than romantic. PoR hinted several times at both Ike and Elincia liking one another, then RD made them look like they'd just recently met for some reason. I'll lay it out for you. First piece of evidence: Elincia flirts with Ike a bit early in PoR. She giggles at him even. Second: Elincia and Ike are found alone together a lot in PoR and I always feel like a romantic atmosphere is forming here by the way they speak to one another at times. Third: Ranulf says "well, isn't this a romantic setting!" when barging in on them, hinting that he thinks they're in love. Fourth: Shinon accuses Ike of being in love with Elincia, and Ike quickly changes the subject with little to no reaction. Ike, are you hiding something here? XD Fifth: Ike and Elincia hold HANDS at the end of the game (PoR). And Ike lets Elincia grasp his before they step onto the balcony. Sixth: Now we get into the RD stuff. There's a bit in here too, yes. Ike and Elincia acting so oddly after the PoR stuff is evidence in itself. Like I said before, could they be trying to hide their feelings now? Seventh: Elincia's death quote in the final chapter of RD. She says "my noble Ike" not Geoffrey! Hint hint. Even if Geoffrey is in love with Elincia, it looks to me like Elincia favors Ike, but couldn't have him at the time, so she settled for the next best choice, whom would definitely be Mr. Not-Mighty Knight Commander (Boo Geoffrey. He stinks). Ike probably loved Elincia, but the two had to hide it. The Crimean commonfolk or nobles might not like the idea of Elincia marrying a mercenary, and the known fact that Ike dislikes the noble life could cause his friends to start questioning him. They could attract more enemies too. All this would be overwhelming, so I can see why they'd have to hide their feelings. Elincia marrying Geoffrey instead could also explain why Ike left Tellius. He was very upset she'd do that. I know I'd want to drop off the face of the Earth if my lover married someone else when they loved me first. This is just what I think though. I am a supporter of Ike and Elincia and that will never change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narga_Rocks Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Ike, Boyd, Oscar, and Kieran for me. They always come out owning everything in their paths. XD Oh, and Shinon, but only in RD. And on the couple matter, I agree that Ike/Elincia is the best couple, but I never thought about how much opportunity they had to support. Yeah, they don't get much. Still, if IS wanted to officially pair them up, they could have made their support already boosted by default at the start of the game, like Micaiah and Sothe, though not necessarily to A. There was a lot more focus on Geoffrey/Elincia in this game. And even in PoR, it was established that Geoffrey was head over heels in love with Elincia. I couldn't see Ike marrying Elincia anyway... they're too different. :/ Geoffrey never looked to me like he was in love with Elincia, nor vice versa. Though I never did do the support system in RD, I'll admit. Still, the relationship between Geoffrey and Elincia looked more like brotherly/sisterly love than romantic. PoR hinted several times at both Ike and Elincia liking one another, then RD made them look like they'd just recently met for some reason. I'll lay it out for you. First piece of evidence: Elincia flirts with Ike a bit early in PoR. She giggles at him even. Second: Elincia and Ike are found alone together a lot in PoR and I always feel like a romantic atmosphere is forming here by the way they speak to one another at times. Third: Ranulf says "well, isn't this a romantic setting!" when barging in on them, hinting that he thinks they're in love. Fourth: Shinon accuses Ike of being in love with Elincia, and Ike quickly changes the subject with little to no reaction. Ike, are you hiding something here? XD Fifth: Ike and Elincia hold HANDS at the end of the game (PoR). And Ike lets Elincia grasp his before they step onto the balcony. Sixth: Now we get into the RD stuff. There's a bit in here too, yes. Ike and Elincia acting so oddly after the PoR stuff is evidence in itself. Like I said before, could they be trying to hide their feelings now? Seventh: Elincia's death quote in the final chapter of RD. She says "my noble Ike" not Geoffrey! Hint hint. Even if Geoffrey is in love with Elincia, it looks to me like Elincia favors Ike, but couldn't have him at the time, so she settled for the next best choice, whom would definitely be Mr. Not-Mighty Knight Commander (Boo Geoffrey. He stinks). Ike probably loved Elincia, but the two had to hide it. The Crimean commonfolk or nobles might not like the idea of Elincia marrying a mercenary, and the known fact that Ike dislikes the noble life could cause his friends to start questioning him. They could attract more enemies too. All this would be overwhelming, so I can see why they'd have to hide their feelings. Elincia marrying Geoffrey instead could also explain why Ike left Tellius. He was very upset she'd do that. I know I'd want to drop off the face of the Earth if my lover married someone else when they loved me first. This is just what I think though. I am a supporter of Ike and Elincia and that will never change. I agree. Geoffrey may be gaga over Elincia, but if Elincia acted on her true feelings then Geoffrey would have been left pining over her for the rest of his life. He's a useless twit and acts like one and Elincia would be thousands of times better off with Ike. Ike x Elincia forever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ether Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Ike, Boyd, Oscar, and Kieran for me. They always come out owning everything in their paths. XD Oh, and Shinon, but only in RD. And on the couple matter, I agree that Ike/Elincia is the best couple, but I never thought about how much opportunity they had to support. Yeah, they don't get much. Still, if IS wanted to officially pair them up, they could have made their support already boosted by default at the start of the game, like Micaiah and Sothe, though not necessarily to A. There was a lot more focus on Geoffrey/Elincia in this game. And even in PoR, it was established that Geoffrey was head over heels in love with Elincia. I couldn't see Ike marrying Elincia anyway... they're too different. :/ Geoffrey never looked to me like he was in love with Elincia, nor vice versa. Though I never did do the support system in RD, I'll admit. Still, the relationship between Geoffrey and Elincia looked more like brotherly/sisterly love than romantic. PoR hinted several times at both Ike and Elincia liking one another, then RD made them look like they'd just recently met for some reason. I'll lay it out for you. First piece of evidence: Elincia flirts with Ike a bit early in PoR. She giggles at him even. Second: Elincia and Ike are found alone together a lot in PoR and I always feel like a romantic atmosphere is forming here by the way they speak to one another at times. Third: Ranulf says "well, isn't this a romantic setting!" when barging in on them, hinting that he thinks they're in love. Fourth: Shinon accuses Ike of being in love with Elincia, and Ike quickly changes the subject with little to no reaction. Ike, are you hiding something here? XD Fifth: Ike and Elincia hold HANDS at the end of the game (PoR). And Ike lets Elincia grasp his before they step onto the balcony. Sixth: Now we get into the RD stuff. There's a bit in here too, yes. Ike and Elincia acting so oddly after the PoR stuff is evidence in itself. Like I said before, could they be trying to hide their feelings now? Seventh: Elincia's death quote in the final chapter of RD. She says "my noble Ike" not Geoffrey! Hint hint. Even if Geoffrey is in love with Elincia, it looks to me like Elincia favors Ike, but couldn't have him at the time, so she settled for the next best choice, whom would definitely be Mr. Not-Mighty Knight Commander (Boo Geoffrey. He stinks). Ike probably loved Elincia, but the two had to hide it. The Crimean commonfolk or nobles might not like the idea of Elincia marrying a mercenary, and the known fact that Ike dislikes the noble life could cause his friends to start questioning him. They could attract more enemies too. All this would be overwhelming, so I can see why they'd have to hide their feelings. Elincia marrying Geoffrey instead could also explain why Ike left Tellius. He was very upset she'd do that. I know I'd want to drop off the face of the Earth if my lover married someone else when they loved me first. This is just what I think though. I am a supporter of Ike and Elincia and that will never change. I agree. Geoffrey may be gaga over Elincia, but if Elincia acted on her true feelings then Geoffrey would have been left pining over her for the rest of his life. He's a useless twit and acts like one and Elincia would be thousands of times better off with Ike. Ike x Elincia forever! Hmm...I've never seen this side of you before narga. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narga_Rocks Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I agree. Geoffrey may be gaga over Elincia, but if Elincia acted on her true feelings then Geoffrey would have been left pining over her for the rest of his life. He's a useless twit and acts like one and Elincia would be thousands of times better off with Ike. Ike x Elincia forever! Hmm...I've never seen this side of you before narga. XD Well, I've made my dislike of Geoffrey x Elincia clear before, but I suppose I don't do so very often (and the last time may have been on gamefaqs). I just think Geoffrey acts like a twit in both games. He's not useless, though, I suppose. He's rather helpful in 2-3 and somewhat helpful in 3-9. But his pining is just irritating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I only dislike Geoffrey as a unit in battle. He's mediocre at best there. Personality wise and such, he's alright. Not really awesome though. And I'm always glad to see another IkexElincia fan! :3 Oh yeah, I forgot one more piece of RD evidence. Ike and Elincia return to Crimea together. It didn't say Elincia and Geoffrey, no. Ike and Elincia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted January 25, 2010 Author Share Posted January 25, 2010 Geoffrey openly admits he loves Elincia in his PoR support with Calill, and it's implied in his support with Elincia that he feels something for her. Although he also says that he understands that nothing might ever happen between them, and he'd be happy to simply remain her loyal servant. Ike/Elincia... I get the impression that while Elincia likes Ike, Ike doesn't feel the same way about her. In fact, I don't really get a romantic vibe from any of his support conversations, he seems really platonic in all of them. It doesn't help that he doesn't have any romantic paired endings. And again, Ike as a noble? Elincia marrying a commoner? They're just too different. Elincia likes Ike because she admires his strength and courage, but I think it takes more than that to make a good couple. I think if anything, Ike is asexual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Hey, Micaiah married a THIEF and she's a queen. Nothing says Elincia can't marry a mercenary. Also, we have had Ike as a noble. Lord Ike? General Ike of the combined armies of Gallia, Phoenicis, Crimea, and Sanaki's supporters? He was a noble then. I think it actually fit him, even if he did hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ether Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Hey, Micaiah married a THIEF and she's a queen. Nothing says Elincia can't marry a mercenary. Also, we have had Ike as a noble. Lord Ike? General Ike of the combined armies of Gallia, Phoenicis, Crimea, and Sanaki's supporters? He was a noble then. I think it actually fit him, even if he did hate it. but that's different.You see, the people of Daien looked at Micaiah and Sothe as thier saviors,and Micaiah and Sothe both didn;t mind being the rulers of Daien. While with Elincia and Ike,not only were the citizens of Crimea dealing with a decent revolution, which means that they weren't exactly seeing Elincia as a perfect queen. As well, Ike doesn't want anything to do with nobility, and Elincia wouldn;t abandon Crimea. There isn;t actually a problem with it, but it is against Ike's nature to stay with Elincia as long as she's a queen, and Elincia wouldn;t give up Crimea to be with Ike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Elincia would not be abandoning Crimea just by leaving the throne. That's like saying I'm abandoning my forum if I give the webmaster rights to someone else. I'm still a member of that forum and support it. Elincia wouldn't be abandoning her country if she was a part of Ike's mercenary group now would she? No. She wouldn't be abandoning Crimea as long as she simply supported and fought for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ether Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Elincia would not be abandoning Crimea just by leaving the throne. That's like saying I'm abandoning my forum if I give the webmaster rights to someone else. I'm still a member of that forum and support it. Elincia wouldn't be abandoning her country if she was a part of Ike's mercenary group now would she? No. She wouldn't be abandoning Crimea as long as she simply supported and fought for them. except she knows what goes on in the royal palace.Elincia knows what the nobles want to do and are capable of doing if she were to leave the throne. elincia, by nature,feels responsible for a lot of things that happen to Crimea. Knowing the potential of what is likely to happen if the nobles were given an opportunity, Elincia would most likely feel too guilty to even consider leaving the throne. But I digress,since I have nothing wrong with Ike X Elincia, just pointing out some inconsistencies, so i'm gonna stay out of this particular discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Elincia still has her uncle, however. And her uncle supports her, so he'd rule exactly how she would. Elincia would have nothing to fear if Renning were seated on the throne instead of her, I can see it. I told you, I've done my homework on this. xP But yes, this discussion has gone far enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReformBlade Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Awesomest? Giffca, the fucking Black Lion. And what's all this talk about Ike x Elincia? Yeah, I think there was certainly something between em at one point, but it's fairly obvious that she's got the hots for Geo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narga_Rocks Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Awesomest? Giffca, the fucking Black Lion. And what's all this talk about Ike x Elincia? Yeah, I think there was certainly something between em at one point, but it's fairly obvious that she's got the hots for Geo. Geo likes her, sure, that's obvious. It is in no way obvious that she has anything for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReformBlade Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I think shouting his name with joy 3 times upon his arrival, and the fact that she cared so deeply about his 'honor' (Conversation to get his Brave Lance) is more than enough convincing for me that there is definitely something between em... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Poleax Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 For me it's Boyd. I think Ike's not ready or doesn't want a girl/boy friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 I think shouting his name with joy 3 times upon his arrival, and the fact that she cared so deeply about his 'honor' (Conversation to get his Brave Lance) is more than enough convincing for me that there is definitely something between em... She screamed his name because without Geoffrey and the knights, she doesn't have a really huge chance of beating Ludveck, plus Ludveck originally lured Geoffrey and company into a trap. Elincia should obviously care about how the freaking commander of the Royal Knights is doing. As for the honor, I'd respect it too because he heavily supports her. In fact, I do respect Geoffrey for that and can't entirely hate him, although I do dislike him for taking Elincia away from her Ike. xP KS: I agree, Boyd is epic. <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightBow Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 I think shouting his name with joy 3 times upon his arrival, and the fact that she cared so deeply about his 'honor' (Conversation to get his Brave Lance) is more than enough convincing for me that there is definitely something between em... She screamed his name because without Geoffrey and the knights, she doesn't have a really huge chance of beating Ludveck, plus Ludveck originally lured Geoffrey and company into a trap. Elincia should obviously care about how the freaking commander of the Royal Knights is doing. As for the honor, I'd respect it too because he heavily supports her. In fact, I do respect Geoffrey for that and can't entirely hate him, although I do dislike him for taking Elincia away from her Ike. xP KS: I agree, Boyd is epic. <3 Also don't forget that she just recently lost her milk-sister Lucia. (Or at last had little reason to believe Lucia would survive to reunite with her) Since she and Geoffrey are the persons that mean most to her, it must have been an incredible relieve to know that at the very last he is fine. Also Nolan 'Chuck Noyce' is the most awesome. He can take several hits in the part of the game where everyone is as fragile as a Heron fist and he shares a sexy Earth affinity. What more can you ask for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Yup, that too. Also, I prefer Boyd to Nolan. I can never get any of the Dawn Brigade to be good except Sothe and Edward. The Greil Mercenaries are generally godly though. Holy crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fayt Zelpher Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Yup, that too. Also, I prefer Boyd to Nolan. I can never get any of the Dawn Brigade to be good except Sothe and Edward. The Greil Mercenaries are generally godly though. Holy crap. I always prefer Nolan to Boyd because Nolan's the second best overall in the DB (besides Sothe, and Edward on EM or NM), and Boyd's the...Titania, Ike, Shinon, Gatrie...Mia...maybe 6th best GM? And that's being generous. And plus, Earth > Fire is pretty much a given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReformBlade Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 I think shouting his name with joy 3 times upon his arrival, and the fact that she cared so deeply about his 'honor' (Conversation to get his Brave Lance) is more than enough convincing for me that there is definitely something between em... She screamed his name because without Geoffrey and the knights, she doesn't have a really huge chance of beating Ludveck, plus Ludveck originally lured Geoffrey and company into a trap. Elincia should obviously care about how the freaking commander of the Royal Knights is doing. As for the honor, I'd respect it too because he heavily supports her. In fact, I do respect Geoffrey for that and can't entirely hate him, although I do dislike him for taking Elincia away from her Ike. xP KS: I agree, Boyd is epic. <3 Also don't forget that she just recently lost her milk-sister Lucia. (Or at last had little reason to believe Lucia would survive to reunite with her) Since she and Geoffrey are the persons that mean most to her, it must have been an incredible relieve to know that at the very last he is fine. Also Nolan 'Chuck Noyce' is the most awesome. He can take several hits in the part of the game where everyone is as fragile as a Heron fist and he shares a sexy Earth affinity. What more can you ask for? Exactly, Geoffrey means a fuck ton to her, unlike Ike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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