Tamanoir Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Once again. I think I will make a topic for the Valks later I think it will be between Canas and Ray OK, my Ranks Ray (very good MAG&SKL stat, good SPD&RES&HP, Dark magic don't lower it that much) Canas (more durable,Good/Average everywhere. Come quite early, but his MAG stat can easily be screwed) Ewan (comes late and underleveled, but turn good everywhere (especially the LCK) Niime (Staff utility, average stats except the very bad DEF&HP) Knoll (comes late and quite underleveled with crappy base stats(O LCK and 2 DEF !), needs the Hoplon Guard if he doesn't want to be criticaled by any ennemy, terrible DEF&LCK, good/average in the others stats) Sophia (come late and underleveled, forced in one of the worst chapter, Awesome MAG&RES, average stats everywhere) EDIT : Niime added, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxas Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 You know, there's always Niime, for staff utility and an extra dark magic user in Fe6. <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Ray (very good MAG&SKL stat, good SPD&RES&HP, Dark magic don't lower it that much) No. They're mediocre, or at least the HP stat is decent for a magic user in FE6 not named Hugh. Canas (more durable,Good/Average everywhere. Come quite early, but his MAG stat can easily be screwed) True. Ray is the best overall, his Def is average, he bears decent Spd, Skill and will almost cap Magic, but I voted for Ewan, he turns out great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamanoir Posted January 22, 2010 Author Share Posted January 22, 2010 Ray (very good MAG&SKL stat, good SPD&RES&HP, Dark magic don't lower it that much) No. They're mediocre, or at least the HP stat is decent for a magic user in FE6 not named Hugh. That's true. But his HP&RES aren't bad. A large part of other FE6 Magic users have similar HP&RES (only Saul has both best HP&RES than him)) But "good HP&RES" was overrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luftwaffe Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 needs more niime votes, seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 By the way, this is in the wrong section, this is should not go in "FE Debates", but General Fire Emblem instead. And I changed my vote to Niime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewjeo Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Canas. Knoll's easily the worst DRUID. Edit: Wait, forgot about Ewan. Those two are in the same boat, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Canas sucks, dunno why people actually like him for slightly decent Defense, his Spd, Mag & Skill are mediocre, his Res is just good. Ewan, Ray & Niime are even better than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candlejack Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Salem. ohwait I suppose Canas since he beats everyone here including Ewan... Who by the way has worse base stats than Knoll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 [My last post] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candlejack Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 You are automatically discredited for thinking Ewan is better than Canas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Because he is, just think Mag, Skill, SPEED, LUCK, RES and loldef, especially for Ewan's Avo in FE8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candlejack Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Okay. Good luck raising Ewan from terribleness to badness to averageness. At equal levels for 20/20 on Canas and 20/20/20 for Druid Ewan: Canas wins in HP, SKL, and DEF. Ewan wins in STR, SPD, lolLCK, and RES. LCK makes shit difference this time around. So Ewan wins offensively but Canas defensively. However, Canas also has Anima affinity and a C with Pent, who has Ice, which is fucking amazing while Ewan gets saddled with lolLight and with people who either don't want him (Tethys, Saleh), or who suck just as much (Dozla, Amelia, Ross). Either way, they take goddamn forever to build up anyway. Also, Gespenst > Gleipner. Also, FE7 Luna >>>>>>> FE8 Luna. Oh and by the way Canas has +6 HP, +7 STR, +7 SKL, +3 SPD, +2 LCK, +5 DEF, +5 RES, +2 CON, and +1 MOV bases over Ewan. Canas also wins growths in HP by 20%, SPD by 5%, DEF by 10%, and RES by 5%. In fact, the differences are so marginal between them, the ONLY reason Ewan maintains what seems to be a win is because he promotes twice. Although you'll actually have to RAISE that piece of shit in order to make him SLIGHTLY usable. Canas is not only the only character with access to Dark, or in other words LUNA, other than Athos, but is a good character in his own right. Certainly no Levin!Sety or Haar, but he is a good unit to use nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 It is'nt "lolLuck" is FOURTEEN LUCK while Ewan will be bearing +TWENTY-FOUR AVO than Canas, especially when Ewan comes in a chapter sorrounded by lolmonsters, he's easy to train, at least easier when he's doubling while Canas can't even do that by the start or upon promotion. Canas wins bylol1skill and by 4def, which isn't much when Ewan cold bear +TWENTY FOUR AVO, especially since this is lolfe8. Ewan isn't just winning at Magic, he bears +2 Mag, and if Sage!Moulder's Mag is considered great then Ewan just blows you away since his Mag is higher and he uses Dark magic. And by the way, it's not like you'll be dumb enough as to equipped that heavy, S-ranked dark tome in either games, they're good with Luna. AndFomortiis is just lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luftwaffe Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Canas comes earlier with better stats. The end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 No. Ewan comes with 6 AS vs Canas' stumpy lol5AS, he only relies high Atk and has poor dodge that is not even in his favor, Ewan at least has terrain advantage on his joining chapter and doubles the enemies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luftwaffe Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Where are you getting these figures from? Ewan has 5 AS and Canas has 7. Ewan only doubles steel lance and javelin bonewalkers which everybody else doubles too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybee Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Canas, though it was kinda close between him and Niime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Yes, 7 AS. Ewan will be doubling most monsters that aren't Gargoyles or Tarvos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candlejack Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Saying he can double monsters is like saying he has eyes. As in, SO WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE DOES TOO. As in, no big deal that he can double monsters because EVERYONE ELSE CAN TOO. In fact, I recall Ewan not being able to double Mogalls during his Trainee period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Exactly why he is easy to train, he is in lolfe8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candlejack Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Except if a character is BAD in lolfe8, they aren't worth the trouble raising ANYWAY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Exept that he isn't bad, if you want "bad" we have Knoll. Canas is only useful endgame wih the excuse of Luna, he is overall mediocre when his Atk is around the same as Lucius who uses lightning but can double instead while bearing a decent support with Raven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamanoir Posted January 22, 2010 Author Share Posted January 22, 2010 needs more niime votes, seriously She's more appreciated than I thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Why not vote for her? Canas' mommy is great, she can heal and be useful at combat at the same time, her Avo is quite reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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