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HELP:Recuiting Jake


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How can I recruit Jake without killing Caeda.I mean,you gotta talk to hi with Caeda,who is a pegasus kinght,and the weapon Jake carry is great against flying units.Right now,my Caeda is level 11,so should I promote her for better defense or is there any other choice?

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Warp staff for me...as soon as all the other enemies but jake and the boss are dead (unless they are healers for the enemy), I just warp her in.

Edit: Wow, the fact that I spelled warp as wrap twice and didn't notice it, is impressive....go me

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Wrap staff for me...as soon as all the other enemies but jake and the boss are dead (unless they are healers for the enemy), I just wrap her in.

It's a warp staff though. ;)

Yeah Yeah RP, I can't spell :-P. //sigh, I'll go fix it.

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I just change her class to myrmideon and walk up to him

I've got her as an archer at the moment. I need a class that gives more str and def, since she's cap-rammed her speed and skill pretty fast. Unfortunately, archers have 5 movement :( :( :(

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Wrap staff for me...as soon as all the other enemies but jake and the boss are dead (unless they are healers for the enemy), I just wrap her in.

It's a warp staff though. ;)

Yeah Yeah RP, I can't spell :-P. //sigh, I'll go fix it.

Well, it isn't worth a warp staff use to recruit a ballistician who gets replaced by Beck pretty quickly.

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Caeda as a Myrmidon, although if you do promote her, you can reclass her to paladin and she'll get good movement without being vulnerable.

I would only do that if you don't plan on using her, as she would be skipping 9 levels of growth and she would probably turn out to be a pretty crappy unit missing out on all that growth...

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Well, it isn't worth a warp staff use to recruit a ballistician who gets replaced by Beck pretty quickly.

They're actually nearly identical as far as averages are concerned. Jake wins in skill and luck, while Beck wins in health, speed, and defense, but I don't imagine either of them are gonna see close-range combat or double enemies. And that Arrowspate Jake has can be pretty helpful against flyers. And it's not like you'll be able to stock up on ballista bolts as soon as they're recruited.
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Another solution is what I did, which is to give Jake a better target. He can only shoot one person per turn, after all. I class-changed Maria into a Peg, and left the both of them in Jake's range. He goes after Maria every time, which lets Caeda get inside his minimum range next turn for the recruit.

Doesn't cost you a Warp use, or require a bunch of resets, or require Caeda spend a chapter as something dumb. All it costs you is Maria or some other tier 1 female (Athena, a generic), which is no great loss.

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Get lucky

I simply rout enemies until only Jake remains, and then move Sheeda closer, into his range, taking the quickest way towards him...he never hit her and barely targetted her =/

EDIT: @Interceptor: Some people don't like killing off their own characters, even if they're FE11 ones with their generic personality

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Get lucky

I simply rout enemies until only Jake remains, and then move Sheeda closer, into his range, taking the quickest way towards him...he never hit her and barely targetted her =/

EDIT: @Interceptor: Some people don't like killing off their own characters, even if they're FE11 ones with their generic personality

Well, for bleeding hearts like me the idea may not work. Of course, if I played this game I'd want to go to the Gaiden chapters and so I think I'd get used to the idea of killing my characters. Still, for those that just want to get it done, it's the perfect strategy. As long as Sheeda has better avo it seems Jake will target something else if there is another peg. And with her spd and luck growths I see no reason for her to not have better avo.

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Get lucky

I simply rout enemies until only Jake remains, and then move Sheeda closer, into his range, taking the quickest way towards him...he never hit her and barely targetted her =/

EDIT: @Interceptor: Some people don't like killing off their own characters, even if they're FE11 ones with their generic personality

Well, for bleeding hearts like me the idea may not work. Of course, if I played this game I'd want to go to the Gaiden chapters and so I think I'd get used to the idea of killing my characters. Still, for those that just want to get it done, it's the perfect strategy. As long as Sheeda has better avo it seems Jake will target something else if there is another peg. And with her spd and luck growths I see no reason for her to not have better avo.

I don't really care about Gaiden chapters, if I do, I try to just not recruit some enemies and kill those who don't even have an opening line...which happened about 2 times in all my pt.s, otherwise I avoid the Gaidens

And you pretty much explained the theory that I go by, thank you~=D

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Another solution is what I did, which is to give Jake a better target. He can only shoot one person per turn, after all. I class-changed Maria into a Peg, and left the both of them in Jake's range. He goes after Maria every time, which lets Caeda get inside his minimum range next turn for the recruit.

Doesn't cost you a Warp use, or require a bunch of resets, or require Caeda spend a chapter as something dumb. All it costs you is Maria or some other tier 1 female (Athena, a generic), which is no great loss.

You're also down a usage of Arrowspate, which I personally would rather have than an extra usage of Warp. But maybe that's just cause I feel Warp-spamming chapters cheapens the game and that this is exactly the sort of uncommon situation that Warp was made for. I think I also use it to get to hard to reach thieves trying to make off with my treasure, and a couple of other random situational things. Not to mention Warp-ing gives good XP to whichever cleric does the deed.

But yeah, sacrifice is always an alternative.

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Warp, battle save, class change, or decoy. Warping is easiest because you get 2 warps up to that point, if I remember correctly, and each one has 7 uses so I don't really think you would mind using 1.

When I recruited Jake, I took his weapon and killed him next chapter because I'm so zetta heartless. :awesome:

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Of course character sacrifice is an alternative. It works, that's evidence enough.

For anyone playing Shadow Dragon -- as opposed to people playing Fake Shadow Dragon with imaginary restrictions -- it offers a solution other than sandbagging Caeda's Pegahax growth, chain-resets, or burning a Warp use. Losing a shot of Arrowspate (potentially, since it can miss) is the price, but it's of a different sort than Warp. A very minor one, in my estimation, given Hammerne in Ch. 20.

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The best thing to do would be to reclass Shiida (Myrmidon), then stay out of Jake's range until you reach the forts. Use Shiida and some other weaker unit as bait (Hint: Linde), let Jake kill the weak unit, then run in to recruit him. Of course, remember to get to the Anna village first ;)

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Why is everyone saying to sacrifice a unit?!?!

Same reason that nobody is saying to reclass your Cavaliers into Myrmidons because it's cruel to the horses, or not have Merric use EKUSUKARIBA because it disrupts local weather patterns.

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Of course character sacrifice is an alternative. It works, that's evidence enough.

For anyone playing Shadow Dragon -- as opposed to people playing Fake Shadow Dragon with imaginary restrictions -- it offers a solution other than sandbagging Caeda's Pegahax growth, chain-resets, or burning a Warp use. Losing a shot of Arrowspate (potentially, since it can miss) is the price, but it's of a different sort than Warp. A very minor one, in my estimation, given Hammerne in Ch. 20.

Fake Fire Emblem with imaginary restrictions is always more fun. This way even if IS never adds back in ranks, I can still pretend.

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