Life Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Credit to i_eat_tables for the idea. Originated at GFAQs and was pretty much a hit. Basically, five people will enter in a drafting pool. One by one (in predefined order), each participant in this pool will choose one character from the list of selectable characters. There will be 40 characters available in all, so each participant will be able to select a total of 8. Once this is done, the real tournament starts. The objective is to complete Hector Hard Mode (no Lyn Mode beforehand) as fast as possible (in terms of total turns used) using ONLY your drafted team of characters and a choice few that are allowed for everyone. The other characters you may not use (not even to support your characters with) except for: - Meatshielding (without weapons) - Rescuing non-drafted characters (but NOT characters you have drafted; this is basically so you can protect frail characters) - Holding weapons and items - Recruiting other characters Another exception is that Matthew (and only Matthew) is allowed to open chests and steal items even if you haven't drafted him. You can still draft him normally to be on your combat team. If you, for some reason, fail to abide by these rules, then you have to incur a four turn penalty for every character you've used for a purpose other than one listed above per chapter. As in the previous drafting tournament, this is four turns regardless of the importance or frequency of the foul committed. Like Kent can solo a chapter (4+ turns) or can rescue Lyn once (4+ turns). During your run, you are expected to keep track of your total turn count and report often on your progress in some detail. If you don't, it might be mistaken for inactivity and thus grounds for disqualification. You are also expected to play fair. If you cheat, shame on you! Gaiden chapters are, of course, completely optional, but since they will probably cost you quite a few turns, they're generally avoided. The first five people to sign up will enter a drafting pool. If there's enough interest, a second pool will be available for the next five to sign up. You may choose your own position in the pool (1, 2, 3, 4 or 5). If you have no preference, I will put you in whatever slot is left after five signups. The order of drafting will be 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 1, ... until all 40 characters have been drafted. Characters allowed for everyone to use are Hector, Marcus, Merlinus and Athos. Leaves you with a draft pool of the following: Ninian Nils Kent Erk Florina Lucius Harken Dorcas Geitz Legault Lyn Fiora Canas Dart Hawkeye Heath Vaida Jaffar Karel Rath Isadora Bartre Farina Rebecca Wil Louise Nino Wallace Renault Karla Since this tournament concerns HHM, please consider carefully if you are up to the challenge! If you have any further questions, feel free to ask me. And yeah. Anyone wanna play? EDIT: Pool #1: oval's turn for two picks. 1. Balcerzak - Pent, Matt, Sain 2. Razgriz - Prissy, Oswin, Guy 3. rslfan - Serra, Eliwood 4. Tino - Raven, Lowen 5. oval - Erk, Harken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balcerzak Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 I'm slightly confused, do I have to sign up on GFaqs? Also, the rescuing is unclear. If I've drafted Bartre, but not Dorcas, can Marcus rescue Dorcas to slow himself and weaken for Bartre, or was the rescuing provision that Dorcas could rescue Rebecca (pointless)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Posted February 14, 2010 Author Share Posted February 14, 2010 I'm slightly confused, do I have to sign up on GFaqs? Also, the rescuing is unclear. If I've drafted Bartre, but not Dorcas, can Marcus rescue Dorcas to slow himself and weaken for Bartre, or was the rescuing provision that Dorcas could rescue Rebecca (pointless)? Sign up here. Not on GameFAQs. I'm just saying that it originated there. Drafted units + Hector, Marcus, Merlinius and Athos can do anything they want without a penalty. They can rescue anyone. Undrafted units can only rescue other undrafted units without a penalty. Like Sain rescuing Lyn if neither of them are on your team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balcerzak Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 I'm very interested. I have a few more minor questions/clarifications, but they can probably be dealt with later on. Edit: I'll also take draft position 1, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Posted February 14, 2010 Author Share Posted February 14, 2010 I'm very interested. I have a few more minor questions/clarifications, but they can probably be dealt with later on. Edit: I'll also take draft position 1, I guess. Ask me now so I can clear them up. I've already done this kind of draft once and came in second in my pool by like 4 turns (I had Eli, Lowen and Flo in EHM until Ninian showed up, no healers until Pent). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balcerzak Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 On recruiting characters: Can you recruit characters you have not drafted for free weapons/so you don't have to waste time killing them? (e.g. Guy/Killing Edge.) If I get saddled with an unlucky Wallace draft, can I go to FFO Linus anyway and not recruit him? Karla requires Warrior 5 Bartre, how do you accomplish this without drafting Bartre? On supports: If I have Louise, she has auto A with Pent. Does that mean I have to keep him out of range on their forced chapter and not bring him at all on future chapters? On drafting: Each of the 8 rows of joining time characters are drafted one at a time in order and you end up with one in each row, or you may always draft from anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Posted February 14, 2010 Author Share Posted February 14, 2010 On recruiting characters: Can you recruit characters you have not drafted for free weapons/so you don't have to waste time killing them? (e.g. Guy/Killing Edge.) If I get saddled with an unlucky Wallace draft, can I go to FFO Linus anyway and not recruit him? Karla requires Warrior 5 Bartre, how do you accomplish this without drafting Bartre? On supports: If I have Louise, she has auto A with Pent. Does that mean I have to keep him out of range on their forced chapter and not bring him at all on future chapters? On drafting: Each of the 8 rows of joining time characters are drafted one at a time in order and you end up with one in each row, or you may always draft from anywhere? 1. Of course. If you want Guy's KE, talk to him with Matthew. If you want Farina's Killer Lance, hire her with Hector. Just make sure that they don't fight. I won't penalize you for deaths. 2. How are you going to go to FFO Linus? Lyn and Eliwood are draftable characters. As in "if you don't draft them, you don't train them". In my current pool, I purposely got both Lyn and Eliwood so that I could draft Geitz last round because it's a wasted pick otherwise. 3. Just because you draft someone doesn't mean that you need to recruit them. You basically own the rights to using them. Getting Bartre to get Karla is like getting Eliwood and Lyn to get Geitz. 4. Keep the pair away from each other and don't field after that first chapter. However, I suggest drafting Louise if you take Pent as supports aren't going to come easy in this run (probably won't period). 5. I just have them listed by availability. I could have listed the characters via tier list. You can draft anyone at any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 Ooh. Enter me please. Do we select the number of the draught, of the number of the character in each draught? For example, if I wanted Raven in my team, no matter what, would I select the fourth draught (Florina, Raven, Lucius, Canas, Dart) of the second character from each draught (Oswin, Dorcas, Lyn, Raven, Legault, Hawkeye, Louise, Vaida)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMeatyClawz Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 I'm in and I'll take the last pick in the first round(5th). Credit to i_eat_tables for the idea. Originated at GFAQs and was pretty much a hit. It was originally my idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 There's only two healers... What the hell do we do there? What if one of the five gets both healers? What about the other three or four who won't get Serra or Priscilla? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMeatyClawz Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 You have Marcus. Early game is pretty much over now. Then it's unlikely that all of the possible early guiding ring users will get taken before you get a shot at one. Until then Vulnerary will have to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Posted February 15, 2010 Author Share Posted February 15, 2010 Ooh. Enter me please. Do we select the number of the draught, of the number of the character in each draught? For example, if I wanted Raven in my team, no matter what, would I select the fourth draught (Florina, Raven, Lucius, Canas, Dart) of the second character from each draught (Oswin, Dorcas, Lyn, Raven, Legault, Hawkeye, Louise, Vaida)? It's only ordered by join time. I'll post the tier list instead so that people don't get confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongLei Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 Can I still enter or is it too late? if I can enter I'm in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Posted February 15, 2010 Author Share Posted February 15, 2010 There's only two healers... What the hell do we do there? What if one of the five gets both healers? What about the other three or four who won't get Serra or Priscilla? I did this challenge on EHM. My first (and only) healer was Pent. Motherfucking Pent. By the time I got to him, my team was made of Eliwood (dodging a lot of stuff), Lowen (stupidly high Def), Flo (dodging everything), Ninian (Ninian) and Hawkeye (fucking TANK). So don't complain about not getting a healer. If your team is solid up to that point, you probably won't need one. Vulneraries are your best friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongLei Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 I have a couple questions i can do whatever with drafted right (legalt could steal etc.) and if u redo a chapter cuz Hector or Lyn dies do turns from previous count against u? Also it might sound dumb but if I want someone in a lower group because I don't want anyone remaining in the higher group could I pick someone in a lower group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Posted February 15, 2010 Author Share Posted February 15, 2010 I have a couple questions i can do whatever with drafted right (legalt could steal etc.) and if u redo a chapter cuz Hector or Lyn dies do turns from previous count against u? Anyone who gets drafted can do whatever. Matthew is allowed to be used for stealing and treasure chest opening regardless of who picks him. But the person who drafts him gets rights over using Matthew in combat (actually killing stuff). And no for your second answer. This is HHM. You're going to die at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 I'll enter anyway, sounds like fun. I hope everyone will play fairly. I use a ROM to play, but I know better than to use savestates in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tino Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 I'll enter, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongLei Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 I figured out why LM if u do LM that's probably an extra 50+ turns depending on how many characters u have. And is it +4 each turn u use char u can't like if I used Lyn to kill someone without having right would I be penalized twice if I used her on two turns or after u brake rule with a char can I that char the rest of the level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Posted February 15, 2010 Author Share Posted February 15, 2010 I figured out why LM if u do LM that's probably an extra 50+ turns depending on how many characters u have. And is it +4 each turn u use char u can't like if I used Lyn to kill someone without having right would I be penalized twice if I used her on two turns or after u brake rule with a char can I that char the rest of the level? I can't understand a word you said. And NO Lyn Mode. Didn't I make that clear in my opening post? EDIT: Also, the first pool can start drafting now. You can take anyone still left on the list. 5th pick gets first pick of second round while 1st gets last pick of second round and first of third. It's a snake draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balcerzak Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 I'll take Pent please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 Assuming we can pick anyone, I'll pick Priscilla. Tell me if I'm wrong in doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongLei Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 Serra please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tino Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 Raven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 Shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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