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[Vicious Sal]

EDIT: APPARENTLY, THE LAYOUT I MADE HAS TAKEN A TURN FOR THE WORSE, I'M WORKING HARD ON FIXING IT!

Ok, so here is my Team, I already hate the baldies, and I do not like the fact that i'm missing out on Gravidus. (Massive Healing. ;_; )

Note that It's already finished. I just want opinions. :3 (And give people all info they need to beat me pre-emptively XD)

Ok, so here's the deal. :

I've been looking at supports, and soon noticed the Ogma and crew. And I noticed Midia and Hostages. I picked the latter. I jucked at most of their growths, but i persevered.

The Supports are All B iirc, I had them in every chapter, including gaidens. I went on and looked at max stats. (Of the class I wanted them to have ofc.) I put those in a text file, and put Promotional gains and bases under them. i started substracting and went on lokking if they could Cap Def + Res in the levels they had. Ofc I also checked STR + Res & STR + Def. The most important stats. (Since Speed and HP and the rest (iirc) always have growth for them in every stat). I ended with this.:

THIS SECTION SHOULD HAVE DISPLAYED A GOOD TABLE, IT DID NOT WORK OUT, THE INFORMATION WILL BE POSTED ASAP.

Quite some calculations went on and on and on. Ofcourse I can't possibly go for "perfect" lv ups only. At times i lost skill and luck etc, thus the real stats have ALL stat boosts implemented. The stat items above calculated, the rest was distributed. (Midia got the 3rd seraph robe, to avoid people saying, in the calculations you have 6 seraphs, there are only 5 blah blah blah >_>).

Note btw, i've used a CycloDS, and I've used RTS (Real Time Save) to avoid even more painsome restarting. In the end, it still cost a huge amount of time. >_> It is an awful experience. ;_; As many of you may know though.

Now, onto the real deal, my team, stats etc: (The arterisk means the stat is maxed, for convenience)

CAMUS TH---- Nevermind

Dolph:

Level 20 Horseman

60 Hp*

24 Str*

4 Mag

27 Skill

30 Speed*

24 Luck

23 Def*

22 Res

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Wyvernslayer 17 Mt, 114 Hit, 19 Crit (Why do I even have that, no one uses Oite rite, In that case, Iv'e aroow already....)

Brave Bow 17 , 130, 30

Parthia (Why?)

Pure Water

Macellan

Lv 20 Berserker + 2 MOVE

60 *

30 *

5

22

28 *

22 *

24 *

19

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Hand axe 18, 110, 30

Poleaxe 19, 110, 24

Brave Axe 19, 120, 30

Hauteclere (Why?)

Pure Water

Tomas

Lv 20 Swordmaster

60 *

24 *

2

29 *

30 *

27/ 29 (iirc I had one spare Icon still, i forgot to save and give it to him iirc)

22 *

23 *

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Wyverslayer 17, 120, 30

Killing Edge 18, 120, 50

Levin sword: MAxed Forge iirc

Vulnerary (dunno, mercurius sounded like A "Why?" weapon)

Midia

Lv 20 Sniper

60 *

24 *

2

30 *

29 *

26

23 *

20 *

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Killer Bow 18, 116, 50

Longbow 18, 113, 30

Silver Bow 22, 133, 29

Brave Bow 17, 130, 30

Boah

Lv 20

51

6

25 *

22

25 *

17

20

30 *

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Thoron 23, 150, 40

Swarm

Fortify

Warp

Master Key (Since a key is needed)Well, That sums it up, And yes, I chose Boah as a bishop, the Sage would have had far worse stats imo. ;o Go ahead, knock yourself out, Rate My Team. :3

Edited February 11, 2011 by Vicious Sal

[Sylvan]

7/10

You used RNG abuse and a hacking device, but classes that should only be used by people who aren't RNG abusing. For example, your swordmaster adds nothing to the team. 8 and 7 movement, with a maximum of 9, minimum of 6.

If you were up against an average-stat team, this would fair relatively well, but against other RNG abused teams it would most likely loose thanks to low movement.

The key on your 6 movement bishop means you'll have trouble opening the door on map 4 if you go first. The bishop can be killed without counter from a berserker.

The support bonuses won't really be doing much.

[Meteor]

Clearly you spent a ton of time on this, so that's commendable. However, you made some pretty glaring oversights... :/

Where are the Brave Swords? Of all the little mistakes on your team, this is the worst.

Boah needs 59 HP.

No scout?

Swordmaster needs max Mag. Tomas can do it, but really, you probably shouldn't even use one.

Give your caster Recover, and someone else the key.

For an abused team, it's impressive yet faulty. I agree with the 7/10. Someone who abused far less could still beat you easily.

Some optimization:

Sniper Midia only needs 2 robes to reach 59 HP. Tomas didn't need one at all... Boah is then free to use 3.

Don't use Swordmasters/Horsemen. 1 Sorceror/1 Berserker/1-2 Snipers/1-2 Paladins would be better.

Give everyone as many kinds of Braves as possible.

Max Res is overkill. That could save you some time if you neglect it. Focus on Lck/Skl instead, IMO. Your choice for that one.

Edited February 11, 2011 by Meteor

[Vicious Sal]

Thanks for the advice.

I thought i'd posted why i didn't have brave swords. Or maybe I editted that away by accident. Anyway, Didn't have the money at the time. -_-. And now I need to wait. Anyway, thanks for the advice. i'll keep it in mind for next time. :)

[Sylvan]

Some other comments:

Dolph:

Parthia (Why?)

Pure Water

Should be Pure Water (why?). Keep partia ditch the water.

Hauteclere (Why?)

Again keep it.

Vulnerary (dunno, mercurius sounded like A "Why?" weapon)

Mercurius would be a "why" weapon, the other legendaries are not.

I'll let you decipher these comments yourself.

[Vicious Sal]

Yeah, I found out yesterday that Pure waters do not stack on top of max stats, I'll keep them on Dolph and macellan. I'v almost never used them so I thought they would stack. =/

Anyway, Maybe I should Switch Dolph and Macellan. (7 move berserker, 11 Move Horseman) And wait for braves, should Tomas be reclassed into a Paladin? I'm definetely changin Boah to Sage, the 6 move really hurt him, I thought it wouldn't be much of a problem, but the reality kicked in and told me otherwise.

EDIT: Boah stays bishop, since sorecerer and Sage both have 6 move, just like him. =/ The reclass for Dolph and macellan are bad, they do not cap speed. There is good news however. :3 Just like I forgot to use the last Icon on Tomas, I left the boots unused too. (Battery death serves a purpose. :3) I do not have any seraph robes anymore however, so boah can't reach 58 (he should get 59, so i'd need 2 anyway >_<)

Edited February 12, 2011 by Vicious Sal

[Meteor]

58 HP is acceptable if he has 21 Def (Bishops cap at 22 so it's possible). Not that it matters at this point.

Should you ever wish to make another team, I have some suggestions.

- Make a save file now, and grind in the Chapter 4 arena. Buy braves every weekend and you won't have to worry about it later. Use only worthless Wi-Fi units (like Marth/Jeigan) up through this point so you can RNG abuse the good ones.

- Avoid using your stat boosters at all, since you may want to make last minute changes.

- Do plan out your booster distribution ahead of time, however. That way you can see what stats are essential to get on each level.

- Try to implement +crit supports, or the Pegasus sisters for Triangle Attack. Unless there is some extremely specific team combination you want, Boah and friends are inferior.

For example, you could recreate something very close to this team, but with crit supports using Ogma, Barst, Bord/Cord (Sorcerer over Bishop), Navarre, and Caeda. Not to mention they come far earlier and have better growths.