Celice Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Is that hard-coded into the game, or can hacks change this? It can be changed. In several hacks, sword-inherited skills aren't locked to the character slots used by whoever has them in the vanilla game. Rather, whoever possesses the skills passes them on. From what I remember, at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 You can't change it with Nightmare, but yeah, it can be changed. It's something like, a certain set of bytes on the child character will allow them to inherit swordskills. That being said, no one on the non-Japanese side of these things know exactly what that set of bytes is. Since we don't have a lot of documentation on FE4 hacking to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Someone probably could find it out if you compared the sets of data for Patty, Lakche, and Shakasher with the sets of data for the other children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Aless - Prince -> Masterknight, Major Hezul, Pursuit Give him Shit bases kay? Faval - Bow knight -> Nomad trooper, or whatever they call it. I play FE4 in Japenese, I only know the controls lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celice Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 You can't change it with Nightmare, but yeah, it can be changed. It's something like, a certain set of bytes on the child character will allow them to inherit swordskills. That being said, no one on the non-Japanese side of these things know exactly what that set of bytes is. Since we don't have a lot of documentation on FE4 hacking to begin with. http://wiki.livedoor.jp/fe_mars/d/%c0%bb%c0%ef%a4%ce%b7%cf%c9%e8 http://febin.so.land.to/ The wiki has some information publically available, and there's various data assets documented and uploaded to the binary uploader. There is also a huge data compendium, including examples, on how to modify pretty much anything in the game. Don't remember the name, but it's constantly being reuploaded, and it's pretty obvious when you've found it--just uncompress the archive and you'll notice your average looking documentation, including specific directories for specific interests. I recall that event editing was largely stored in a separate file, possibly along with that program which extracts and creates a hierarchy of all events in-game. It's not that we don't have documentation. It's that "we" just might not realize what's actually out there. Since all of it is technical jargon, machine translations don't really screw up in translation. Use to your heart's content. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Well then whoop-de-doo for you. Now go find someone who actually gives a shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celice Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Is that hard-coded into the game, or can hacks change this? I think I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weso12 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 (edited) [spoiler=My thoughts on the changes] Sigurd - Lord Knight, Major Baldo, Pursuit, Nihil Still his awsesome Nihil probalbly won't make much different Noish: Bow Fighter -> Sniper. Minor Hezul, Pursuit He might be a good father to a bow son, and that minor hezul will give some strength Alec - Baron, Charge, Critical Baron? Really thats a bit over kill he will be amazingly broken and just a piece of advise give him a live staff as his weapon so he can heal and won't destroy everything Arden - Swordfighter -> Swordmaster, Sol, Minor Baldo Should be a good swordfighter developing bulky and all Lex - Axe Armor -> General, Minor Neir, Wrath, Elite Lex will suck honestly the hero axe might make him better but he woundn't be the impressive Azel - Mage -> Sage, Ambush, Continue, Minor Blaggi No prusiut will make him worse when he starts off but he will be a better than in the orginal once he promotes it might things interesting though Cuan - Duke Knight, Major Noba, Nihil, Critical Same with no continue Ethlin - Swordfighter -> Forrest, Ambush, Continue, Minor Nier Hmm.. Should be a decent sword unit though I question how she will develop Fin - Hunter -> Warrior. Minor Ulir, Pursuit, Ambush. Hunters have horrible bases honestly so he wouldn't be that great and pursuit might not help that much, though be in the game for 2 generations will help out Midayle - Mage ->High Priest: Charge, Minor Tordo No Pursuit means he wouldn't be that great and once he promotes he will probably just get stuck with healing duty Aideen - Thief -> Thief Fighter, Continue, Minor Odo Probably be a standard thief honestly though she might not turn out that great Dew - Social Knight -> Paladin, Pursuit Pursuit might help out a lot and with those growths he might be an awesome unit (though he has not holy blood which sucks) Ayra: Swordfighter -> Mage Fighter, Minor Baldo, Critical, Meteor Sword She actually goes from A rank in swords to B rank and loses pursiut after she promotes though she should be able to still use the hero sword, it seems that before she promotes she will be the same but after she promotes she is stuck to heal boting might be a good idea not to promote her actually Jamka: Prince -> Master Knight. Minor Baldo, Critical/Continue He I can't imagine him being anything different than leaf Diadora - Shaman, Major Narga, Ambush Pretty much her same fail self Holyn - Social Knight -> Paladin, Charisma, Pursuit Has Pursuit and Charsima so he probably be not that bad but honestly not that amazing Lachesis - Fire Mage -> Mage Knight, Minor Fala, Pursuit Mage Knights are male only so please change the promoted class Beowulf: Dark Mage -> Dark Bishop. Minor Neir, Charge Hmm.. Dark Magic and healing should honestly be pretty awesome Levin - Bard -> Sage, Major Holsety, Pursuit Even more broken with Pursuit Sylvia - Dancer, Continue Same as before though no prayer or blaggi kinda sucks Fury - Dragon Knight -> Dragon Master, Pursuit, Critical Probably have better combat but thats about it Tiltyu - Mage -> Mage Knight: Prayer, Bargain Mage Knights are male only so please change the promoted class Claude - HiPriest, Major Blaggi, Nihil Same as before Briggid - Sniper, Major Ulir, Continue Same as before GEN2 Celice - Junior Lord -> Lord Knight Same but with ambush Lakche - Princess -> Mage Fighter Probably start out as a heal bot (though astra might help out on that) but then become a decent mage Lana - Troubadour -> Paladin Heal bot on a horse Skasaher - Axe Knight -> Great Knight Be a decent axe unit (to bad he can't use Astra), Lex probably be the best father Oifey - Thief Fighter, Continue Wow a Oifey with stealing that will be awesome Delmud - Priest -> HiPriest Heal Bot, Claude will probably be the best father Lester - Lance Knight -> Duke Knight Probably be a standard lance knight, Dew will probably be the best father Yuria - Shaman -> Sage, Major Narga, Pursuit, Nihil Exactly the same as before Fee - Pegasus Knight -> Dragon Master Be roughly the same at the begin then swaps staff for power after promotion Arthur - Mage -> Baron Will start the same then become broken after promotion, Levin will probably be the best father Johan - Free Knight ---> Paladin - Minor Odo - Astra Will be a decent and Astra will help out a lot though I probably won't recruit him in favor of... Johalva : Wind Mage > Emperor, Minor Fala. Charge. AN EMPEROR REALLY?!? That will be a god send Shanan - Swordmaster, major Odo, Charge, Luna Same but replacing Astra with Charge and Luna should still be broken Patty - Dancer Dancer nuff said, her best father will probably be Arden honestly though I doubt it maters much Leaf - Sword Fighter -> Master Knight Starts off better ends up broken thats about it Nanna - Mage -> Sage Has pursuit so will probably be decent at start then be an awesome sage Fin - Same as Gen 1 Aless - Cavalier -> Paladin, Major Hezul, Pursuit Same but with no Contiune or Ambush though I doubt that matters to much Leen - Shaman -> Sage Might not be that great due to Sylvia's meh growths but a Sage should make her better Tinny - Mage -> Sage Same as Nanna with no pursuit so meh to many Sages, (4!! All female a little bit overkill don't you think) Faval - Bow Fighter -> Sniper Same as before Sety - Mage Fighter Same but worse best father would probably be Levin I would probably give him Azel in favor of Artur getting Levin Hannibal - Dark Bishop, Minor Loputosou, Ambush, Prayer Might be a good mage but without pursuit its hard to tell at least he can heal bot Corple - Arch Knight -> Bow Knight Will probably be to underleveled to anything and a bit stucky is best father is probably Noish if it matters Altenna - Dragon Knight -> Dragon Master Same as before Also are you gonna change the dark magic cost because of the glitched number they currently have Edited July 6, 2011 by weso12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 I guess I should have rephrased that. "Go find someone who actually cares enough to go do it." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranarius Webfoot Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 I guess I should have rephrased that. "Go find someone who actually cares enough to go do it." If I ever make a hack, you can bet I would make sure every skill is inheritable to everyone. Of course, right now I have little more than a title, so whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darros Posted July 6, 2011 Author Share Posted July 6, 2011 @Female Mage Knights: They exist, just not playable. @Changing Dark magic cost: Yotsmungand, the only playable one, was changed to 5000, the standard C rank tome price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Aless - Prince -> Masterknight, Major Hezul, Pursuit Give him Shit bases kay? Faval - Bow knight -> Nomad trooper, or whatever they call it. I play FE4 in Japenese, I only know the controls lol. ...or you're not changing classes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darros Posted July 6, 2011 Author Share Posted July 6, 2011 ...or you're not changing classes? In the Original post I stated major holy blooded characters don't get a class chanhe, just new skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 wait why? that'll make them less interesting then the others that will get class changes =l at least have them swap into a class that lets them use their holy weapon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetragrammaton Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Erm.. there's no class editing, and Mage Knight has no staff animations. It would freeze. No class editing, ... and maybe no enemy editing too, right? You can change all those things if you really want to make your hack more interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiltas Crysten Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 (edited) Have you already thought about what you will do about Corple? I mean, he'd be totally useless if you leave his level as it is, in the original version you could at least abuse his staves <.< Also, which Rom will you use? Edited July 10, 2011 by Xiltas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weso12 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Just realized Slyvia's a dancer and Leen's a Shaman, Slyvia is unable to pass on weapons to Leen let me fix this Leen: Troubadour to Falcoknight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiltas Crysten Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 I'm sorry, but... how much longer will it take for a patch to come out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darros Posted July 22, 2011 Author Share Posted July 22, 2011 Probably another while, things IRL are kind of not going the best ATM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiltas Crysten Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Mmh... too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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