HF Makalov Fanboy Kai Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 *mocking tone* b-b-but guys! Wendy has woman parts so she must be better then Ronan, nevermind that in every gameplay aspect she loses to him, she's a female knight which is OMG RARE so she's better. i'm honestly shocked this rather simple compairison has lasted this long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Cynthia- Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 *mocking tone* b-b-but guys! Wendy has woman parts so she must be better then Ronan, nevermind that in every gameplay aspect she loses to him, she's a female knight which is OMG RARE so she's better. i'm honestly shocked this rather simple compairison has lasted this long I don't think anyone has argued that Wendy is better simply because she's female, bringing this up as a point seems totally irrelevant and is somewhat insulting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HF Makalov Fanboy Kai Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 I don't think anyone has argued that Wendy is better simply because she's female, bringing this up as a point seems totally irrelevant and is somewhat insulting. true, though i can't believe that someone would actully defend her. i mean i love makalov but i won't try to agrue that he should be higher ranked on the tier list, he earns his spot on both games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconVegeta1986 Posted August 30, 2011 Author Share Posted August 30, 2011 Alright guys, I know you're having fun discussing Wendy vs Ronan, but could you get back to discussing FE6 characters please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HF Makalov Fanboy Kai Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Alright guys, I know you're having fun discussing Wendy vs Ronan, but could you get back to discussing FE6 characters please? very well then. anyone esle think Lilina should have an PRF tome so she'd have somekind of advantage over Lugh other then her high magic growth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconVegeta1986 Posted August 30, 2011 Author Share Posted August 30, 2011 I can't believe Lilina wasn't a lord to begin with, so if more people agree, i'll try to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HF Makalov Fanboy Kai Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 I can't believe Lilina wasn't a lord to begin with, so if more people agree, i'll try to do that. the issue is, if she will be a lord, how will she promote and will she be forced in every battle or not? changing her to a lord could very well change every magic user's position on the tier list as we know it. depending on how you'll handle this then i'll agree with you, at the lowest i'd wish she had an PRF tome, seeing how she's a royal and its strange that she can die and everything is fine afterwards(nevermind that Ostia's gonna be in a power struggle due to thier only heir is dead) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Lilina doesnt need it. Just give her speedwings and she'll be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just call me AL Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 And not to mention, other royal characters can die with no effect to the gameplay or story flow. I've been actually thinking about a scenario where she has a Prf tome myself. But I think one of the roadblocks here is which stats should the tome have, I think the traditional way would involve 8 mt, but I don't know if a crit rate should be set, regardless of it's 10 crit like Ephraim's Reginleif or Caeda's Wing Spear or 20 crit like her mom's Lyn's Mani Katti. And since it's an Anima tome, which element should it be? If it's gonna have rapier effectiveness, I kinda think Wind's out of the question because of the Aircalibur tome, which leaves Fire, Thunder, and Ice. I think it would at least bump her up a tier or so anyways. Fixing her skill and speed could also help while we're at it since we're talking about how to make Lilina better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HF Makalov Fanboy Kai Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 (edited) i'd say make the tome Fire or Thunder(Ice doesn't suit her) for critical hit i think 10 would be nice, if thats too much then 5 could work. though i disagree with making it have rapier effectiveness, she already does enough damage as it is when level'd. prehaps have it do more damage to magic users or dragons if you really had to make it have effectiveness. she could use a small bonus to her skill and speed, or at the least her Skill. Edited August 31, 2011 by HF Makalov Fanboy Kai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I think making her Prf more like a Hero tome would be a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HF Makalov Fanboy Kai Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I think making her Prf more like a Hero tome would be a good idea. kinda like Dimebolt in EN right? sure why not, sounds pretty good(if you only get one that is) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Considering the amount of enemies, having two wouldn't be a bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HF Makalov Fanboy Kai Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Considering the amount of enemies, having two wouldn't be a bad idea. you have a good point, this isn't FE7 afterall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salad Utensil Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Give her (change females sages) A staves upon promotion. She's now probably worth using (simple fix?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Just up her base level, adjusting bases accordingly, maybe +1 speed on base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 ^ Yeah, pretty much that. The only stat she's lacking in is Speed. Lack of skill is pretty normal for an attack mage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just call me AL Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 (edited) ^ Yeah, pretty much that. The only stat she's lacking in is Speed. Lack of skill is pretty normal for an attack mage. Most attack mages don't have 6 Skill at the least and 8 Skill at the most, on average, before promotion. Edited September 1, 2011 by Elmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Wendy would make an okay Wyern Rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sage Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Lilina's "skill problem" isn't even a problem since Anima has ridiculously good hit anyway. Therefore, unless you're having her attack a really fast enemy, her skill isn't actually going to be a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Only Fire has ridiculously good hit. Aircalibur has decent hit but is expensive; Elfire has mediocre hit and Lilina will experience accuracy issues with it. I found Cecilia to have hit issues with Elfire and even Aircalibur, and she has about as much skl as Lilina would have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatEclipse Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Well, Linina has a fast A with Roy for an extra 15, at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just call me AL Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Well, Lilina has a fast A with Roy for an extra 15, at least. But as far as other supports that would give her accuracy go, they either are mediocre or just downright stink, or don't want to hang around her. One of the few besides Roy that would want to hang around her that isn't mediocre at best doesn't give full accuracy. (Though I do like the bonuses.) It kinda makes me wish some of the characters in her support list that either are mediocre or just downright stink were replaced by others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 But as far as other supports that would give her accuracy go, they either are mediocre or just downright stink, or don't want to hang around her. Roy is all the support Lilina needs. +15 accuracy is enough to smooth out her accuracy issues against just about anything. For example, a level 18 Lilina with A Roy has 90-92 hit with Fire and 2HKOes even Chapter 16 Mercenaries, which have more avoid than anything else at that stage of the game. Except Narshen, I guess (she has only 71 hit on him with Aircalibur). One of the few besides Roy that would want to hang around her that isn't mediocre at best doesn't give full accuracy. (Though I do like the bonuses.) It kinda makes me wish some of the characters in her support list that either are mediocre or just downright stink were replaced by others. You'd think that having an extremely fast support with a character that's forced in all maps and shares movement with her and gives great bonuses would be enough. Then you have Gonzales who is really likely to be used and again, shares movement and gives okay bonuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HF Makalov Fanboy Kai Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Lilina/Gonzales is my OTP in this game. They just wreck shit up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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