Knife Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 What a waste. Why did IS bother giving Ike Axes upon promotion when he clearly has a superior weapon in Ragnell? I guess if you swap out his starting weapon class with Axes instead of Swords, he'd just be a speedier Boyd, but still... Call me Waha Kife if quoting or referring to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Jim Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 My only guess is that they wanted Ike to be able to use Urvan, which is the SS axe, so they gave Vanguards the ability to use axes up to an SS rank. It's only my most educated guess, so take it with a grain of salt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 What a waste. Why did IS bother giving Ike Axes upon promotion when he clearly has a superior weapon in Ragnell? I guess if you swap out his starting weapon class with Axes instead of Swords, he'd just be a speedier Boyd, but still... Call me Waha Kife if quoting or referring to me. WTA can be useful at times. Hammer can also be useful. Otherwise, yes, it is pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Laufeyson Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 So we can hammer the BK Basically that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Yeah. This is when I wonder why he didn't get axes at 2nd tier. Instead, we get an FE4 Swordmaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTNP Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 If he would have started out with an axe rank in RD it might have been useful for the first couple of chapters. After all, handaxes (which are forgeable) are better than wind edges in every way except for an extra what 10 hit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Envoy of the Beginning Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 (edited) WTA can be useful at times. Hammer can also be useful. Otherwise, yes, it is pointless. WT doesn't exist in hard mode, and isn't impacting in Normal Mode. And lol easy mode. Edited August 13, 2011 by BLS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 WTA can be useful at times. Eh, its not like he's having trouble killing lance users. The addition of Axes in his ranks is pretty stupid, even if its supposed to be only story wise. Ike is a swordsman like his father was. Not an inferior Axe wielder like Greil was when he cut his tendons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.M. Gei Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 If he would have started out with an axe rank in RD it might have been useful for the first couple of chapters. After all, handaxes (which are forgeable) are better than wind edges in every way except for an extra what 10 hit? The sad thing is that Hand Axes are probably the most accurate of the 1~2 range Axes and Lances AND Swords in RD. 70 Hit vs 60 Hit of Wind Edges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrir Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 HAMMER THAT FUCKER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shroudening Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Urvan Ike is superior to Ragnell Ike in both power and accuracy. Ragnell has 18 Mt and 80 Hit Urvan has 22 Mt and 110 Hit During 4-E-5, Urvan is much better against the auras and Ashera. Ragnell's chance of hitting an aura is around 50-60, while Urvan's is around 80 or so. Is that not good enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 (edited) Urvan Ike is superior to Ragnell Ike in both power and accuracy. Ragnell has 18 Mt and 80 Hit Urvan has 22 Mt and 110 Hit During 4-E-5, Urvan is much better against the auras and Ashera. Ragnell's chance of hitting an aura is around 50-60, while Urvan's is around 80 or so. Is that not good enough? thats good, except for most of the Tower you like 1-2 range. And others are better at using Urvan. Edited August 15, 2011 by SlayerX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious Sal Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 It's only there so that Ike get's + 3 Res to tank the sleep staffers. 8D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 It's only there so that Ike get's + 3 Res to tank the sleep staffers. 8D A 30 res ike barely gets past it, i doubt 3 is going to make that much of a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Not an inferior Axe wielder like Greil was when he cut his tendons. Wait, since when was Ike inferior to any Axe wielders in terms of combat stats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Wait, since when was Ike inferior to any Axe wielders in terms of combat stats? Reavers get a 40 strength cap, which is better than Ike's 37. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 But Ike's 37 Spd caps allow him to 1RKO SMs at 4-E-2. Reavers don't do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Because Ike is able to fight Swordmasters in 4-E-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I never said he was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 reavers can kill pegasi with crossbows because they cant do it without them wait what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aku chi Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Because Ike is able to fight Swordmasters in 4-E-2. LOL But, Ike's extra Speed cap does let him double Sephiran and Ashera without Nasir. Still, the Reaver's extra strength gives them more advantages. With the Brave Axe, they can ORKO Wardwood Auras with a lot of help. Then again, Ike has the Wyrmslayer option for 4-E-3 and is the only unit that can kill the Black Knight, so he's probably more valuable in 4-E, all things considered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 reavers can kill pegasi with crossbows because they cant do it without them wait what? there's all of like 15 pegasi enemies throughout the game, and only like 5 of them can be fought with a Reaver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 LOL But, Ike's extra Speed cap does let him double Sephiran and Ashera without Nasir. Still, the Reaver's extra strength gives them more advantages. With the Brave Axe, they can ORKO Wardwood Auras with a lot of help. Then again, Ike has the Wyrmslayer option for 4-E-3 and is the only unit that can kill the Black Knight, so he's probably more valuable in 4-E, all things considered. He can't double Ashera, and can only double sephiran when he is wielding his tome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 LOL But, Ike's extra Speed cap does let him double Sephiran and Ashera without Nasir. Still, the Reaver's extra strength gives them more advantages. With the Brave Axe, they can ORKO Wardwood Auras with a lot of help. Then again, Ike has the Wyrmslayer option for 4-E-3 and is the only unit that can kill the Black Knight, so he's probably more valuable in 4-E, all things considered. Ike can 1RKO Auras too with the same aid the Reavers would need to do so (Ena/Gareth, Nasir and a Brave axe) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 He can't double Ashera, and can only double sephiran when he is wielding his tome. Ashera only has 32 AS due to Judge's 16 WT and Sephiran is always wielding his tome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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