Progenitus Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 (edited) How many people QQed again when Sheeda jumped to Top Tier...? How many people still don't believe the debating community about Mia's worth in FE9 and FE10? And just how many people outside of SF really believe that Levin!Arthur>Levin!Sety? I've never played FE4 and I don't follow the FEDS tiering scene, but Mia is a really bad example because the casual community loves her no matter what. FE10 Sothe or maybe Thany would be better examples; units that used to be ranked poorly (or somewhat poorly) but shot up in popularity because of the debaters. Edited December 10, 2011 by smash fanatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 But Oswin and Levin are good. I never said they weren't good, they're just overrated. Oswin especially. And Levin's move sucks, he's good for setting up Holsety!Arthur though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 I like everybody, Ms. Reed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashGordon94 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Several! Mostly Troubadours/Valkyries, especially Priscilla. I've gotten so sick of it that I want the class to be wiped out of the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Alear Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 FE10 Sothe or maybe Thany would be better examples; units that used to be ranked poorly (or somewhat poorly) but shot up in popularity because of the debaters. Really? Sothe was rated low? That's idiotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitus Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 I think Sothe was put in the same slot as Heather way back when FE10 debating just started. Now Sothe is so overhyped some people try to argue him over Volug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Alear Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 The only things that comes to mind which Sothe has over Volug is three chapters of availability, 1-2 range and the beastkiller knife. Oh and not having to rely on transform gauge for best stats. Which if you ask me isn't enough to beat out higher move, durability, offense (especially with S strike and/or an energy drop) without beast killer, earth affin and being a wolfy . But I don't play FE seriously soo.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sage Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 I think Sothe was put in the same slot as Heather way back when FE10 debating just started. Now Sothe is so overhyped some people try to argue him over Volug. If anything, I find Ike overhyped. He spends a lot of his time in Part 3 either in Haar's/Titania's/Oscar's saddlebags or he's yet another unit that mauls face but has a terrible 1-2 range option. I could probably make an argument that Sothe is better than Ike (but that requires extensive research so screw that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Really? Sothe was rated low? That's idiotic. Jeigan syndrome. He sucks in part 4, so clearly he's a bad character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Alear Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Jeigan syndrome. He sucks in part 4, so clearly he's a bad character. I guess it never occurred to these people that sucking in the company of a bunch of nonsucking characters late game is more than counterbalanced by not sucking in the presence of a bunch of suck characters early-game. And he also lets you get a white gem and a laguz gem in the desert chapter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 If anything, I find Ike overhyped. He spends a lot of his time in Part 3 either in Haar's/Titania's/Oscar's saddlebags or he's yet another unit that mauls face but has a terrible 1-2 range option. I could probably make an argument that Sothe is better than Ike (but that requires extensive research so screw that). Then we have 3-11 when he gets Ragnell and Part 4 where he promotes. That's hardly being in someone's saddlebags, since he's only in rout maps in Part 4 which could use every bit of combat they could get (especially since he technically has better move than Tits in 4-4). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 But he's carried around to go through 3-11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Now Sothe is so overhyped some people try to argue him over Volug. I don't think this is overhyped at all. I think Sothe might deserve that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Laufeyson Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 And he also lets you get a white gem and a laguz gem in the desert chapter. Yep. Sothe definitely has his uses. Early on, hes a decent-to-really good combat unit. But then part 3 rolls around and things can get a little sticky. Good thing theres beast killer knives! Part 4, his combat is ass but luckily, hes also a utility unit. Sothe can grab some cool swag along the way. I think his placement is very fair. (i personally am not the biggest fan of Sothe but yeah) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Banzai Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Sigurd, Levin, anyone who can use Holsety except Craple, Nephenee, Raven, Guy, Soren, Volug, Rutger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Sounds like Banzai is allergic to victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Banzai Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Sounds like Banzai is allergic to victory I'm allergic to terrible characters being good >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titamon Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 I think Oswin and FE10 Aran are overrated ESPECIALLY ARAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabvfgsyeahuwdefgfue7huiwr Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Snip out that middle line real quick and you have a post that may as well have been made by me. EDIT: Wait, no, actually, there's one. I hate hearing about how Soren has a personality. That's it. He's the only character in any fe game that actually utilizes any sort of strategy with a realistic basis. He's obviously quite clever and fairly cynical. I think that counts for something; it's certainly a lot more than you can say for some people *cough* Seth *cough*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.M. Gei Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Seth doesn't need strategy when he can just break the game in twain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Banzai Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 He's the only character in any fe game that actually utilizes any sort of strategy with a realistic basis. He's obviously quite clever and fairly cynical. I think that counts for something; it's certainly a lot more than you can say for some people *cough* Seth *cough*. Uh, are you kidding? Seth's the guy who figures out that Orson is the traitor. He also stops Eirika from surrendering her weapons to Novala and he gives realistic, helpful (and yet somewhat cold-hearted) advice to both Eirika and Ephraim throughout the game. Soren is just one in a series of cynical bastards, the first being Malledus from FE1. Soren's only true distinction is that he's the only one who looks like a goth and has severe angst problems, which is at times nauseating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaMonkey Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Micaiah is the only one who comes to mind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.M. Gei Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Micaiah is the only one who comes to mind... So, our noting that Micaiah isn't "Failcaiah" as you're so fond of calling her counts as praise all of a sudden? Okay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blasied Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 While I don't like Micaiah, I will admit it is very nice to have a forced, reliable healer (once she promotes). On topic, Mist and non-Tellius pegasus knights. Why yes I am a very slow player, how did you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Micaiah is the only one who comes to mind... Are you sure you aren't referring to her in-game character that gets thought of as a "goddess" at some point. Because, honestly, no one is praising her in the fanbase a good unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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