Junkhead Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I was wondering if they were or not common in Tellius, seeing as we get two who are a king and prince. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cain Magnus Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Well, judging from the fact that Laguz commonly choose their leaders (And probably other Royalty) by strength, then I'd assume that they are of royalty. It would make sense for their style. That and in battles with them being "Other", the only Lion you do see is Skrimir. And Giffica being considered Caineghis' shadow, he may count as royalty as well (Not too sure on that). So that may seem to be one of the more logical ways of thinking on the lions. That's just me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiltas Crysten Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 ...Giffca is not of royalty. He's a servant, always staying at his master's side. That's why Caineghis called him his shadow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Given that strength = power in Laguzia, it makes sense that all the lions would be part of the aristocracy one way or another - either as the royal family or as Giffcas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Historically, Heron royalty are always white-winged and Dragon royalty are always Black Dragons. In other cases, I guess it's possible, although unlikely, for a Cat or Tiger to become beast royalty if they were really strong enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ether Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Historically, Heron royalty are always white-winged and Dragon royalty are always Black Dragons. In other cases, I guess it's possible, although unlikely, for a Cat or Tiger to become beast royalty if they were really strong enough. I believe that the question was not whether a non-lion could be a royal(since we know it's based on strength, it is possible), but rather, whether or not there are any lions that are not linked to the Gallian royalty. Atleast, that's how I gathered the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cain Magnus Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 ...Giffca is not of royalty. He's a servant, always staying at his master's side. That's why Caineghis called him his shadow. I know. It's just the simple fact that he's a Lion is the main reason why I stated he 'may' be of royalty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black plague Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Historically, Heron royalty are always white-winged and Dragon royalty are always Black Dragons. In other cases, I guess it's possible, although unlikely, for a Cat or Tiger to become beast royalty if they were really strong enough. What's always confused me is that, if heron royals have white wings, why doesn't Lehran? Also, even though laguz choose leaders based on strength, that strength is clearly hereditary. It seems just assumed that the next in line of the current kings family will be the strongest, so while they don't really have "royal families", they do have dynasties of sorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottlegnomes Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 What's always confused me is that, if heron royals have white wings, why doesn't Lehran? I always figured he wasn't a royal, just a very prominent commoner in Heron society. Since herons are atypical of Laguz, as in they aren't notable for "strength," I wouldn't be surprised if they had a legitimate royal family, like Beorc do, so non-royal herons could be stronger than royal ones, hence Lehran. Also, even though laguz choose leaders based on strength, that strength is clearly hereditary. It seems just assumed that the next in line of the current kings family will be the strongest, so while they don't really have "royal families", they do have dynasties of sorts. This is pretty much how I see it, as well. Chances are, if one of your parents was strong enough to be the king/queen, you're probably strong enough to be a contender for it, though there's always a chance you won't end up being the strongest. Kinda off topic, but this made me think of breeding. Obviously dragons have no problem with it, but what would happen if, say, a tiger and a cat had a kid, if it's even possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I always figured he wasn't a royal, just a very prominent commoner in Heron society. Since herons are atypical of Laguz, as in they aren't notable for "strength," I wouldn't be surprised if they had a legitimate royal family, like Beorc do, so non-royal herons could be stronger than royal ones, hence Lehran. Actually Herons pick their royals based on how much of a wimp they are. This is why Lorazieh remains the king despite being an invalid. Kinda off topic, but this made me think of breeding. Obviously dragons have no problem with it, but what would happen if, say, a tiger and a cat had a kid, if it's even possible? Naesala and Leanne have children, one raven and one heron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black plague Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Naesala and Leanne have children, one raven and one heron. I think the rules for that kind of laguz cross breeding are gender based because their daughter is a heron and their son is a raven. So sons and daughters are the same as fathers and mothers respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottlegnomes Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Actually Herons pick their royals based on how much of a wimp they are. This is why Lorazieh remains the king despite being an invalid. lol I really hope that's actually how they do. Naesala and Leanne have children, one raven and one heron. Okay. Haven't payed attention to the epilogue in a long damn time. But yeah, going by that, what black plague said sounds right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I dunno if I should throw a slight spanner in the works, but in the Japanese version, Leanne is stated to have a "black-winged" boy and "white-winged" girl. Although I'm not sure if herons can have black wings (Lehran has brown-ish ones IIRC), you could interpret as her having two Heron children or a Raven and a Heron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celice Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I'd think that Black wings could just be Heron wings. It's just the last family had mostly White in them :/ I don't know what's the deal with cross-breeding between Herons, Crows and Ravens though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaMonkey Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I don't know what's the deal with cross-breeding between Herons, Crows and Ravens though. In FE, Ravens = Crows though... so I take it you mean Herons, Hawks and Ravens, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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