Excellen Browning Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Another swordlocked unit, nothing too special at the time you get him 4/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whase Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 ...Which is when you get Jaffar anyways. I don't see what the problem is. you get Jaffar on chapter 28x, with final chapters I mean chapter F(33), and maybe 32/32x. that's still 4 chapters of fail, he's near worthless without his killing edge. I always tend to use only a few units to wipe out maps, you don't get enough killing edges for him to wipe out maps with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) you get Jaffar on chapter 28x, with final chapters I mean chapter F(33), and maybe 32/32x. that's still 4 chapters of fail, he's near worthless without his killing edge. I always tend to use only a few units to wipe out maps, you don't get enough killing edges for him to wipe out maps with it. But you can buy Killing Edges! How much combat do you expect Jaffar to be in, anyways? He doesn't even have a horse, after all. Edited January 27, 2012 by Refa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 "Got" as in "I only saw the prompt twice" or "got" as in "I turn it down most of the time"? I mean "I only got the chance twice". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 Well, it's Hector mode only and it requires you to beat 32 in 20 turns or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) Well, it's Hector mode only and it requires you to beat 32 in 20 turns or less. And short of warpskipping or rescuing, I'm not sure how feasible that is, with Hector's 5 move... Edited January 27, 2012 by Metal King Slime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renall Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 He's decent filler, but it's awful late. 6/10. Also what the hell happened with that last vote? Nino is still divisive to this very day, it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) And short of warpskipping or rescuing, I'm not sure how feasible that is... Especially since two of the three routes have you go through a mass of forests near the end. You don't really need to go through the top. I used Vaida and Heath to grab Renault through rescuedropping (well, mostly Heath to rescue thanks to the shitty female mounted rescue formula and Vaida just killed shit) and Physicspamming. It can be replicated with any 1-2 trained fliers, really. Warp is not necessary to beat it in 20 turns, and you should have a few fliers on hand that rescuedropping or just kill her with fliers shouldn't be a problem. If you didn't train ANY the game at least throws you Vaida and you can probably Barrier/Water + Ninis Grace her if you're so worried about Limmy's mag. Giving the Boots to Hector also helps. I don't actually play efficiently in FE7 most of the time, but I still found it very doable. Edited January 27, 2012 by Luminescent Blade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) You don't really need to go through the top. I used Vaida and Heath to grab Renault through rescuedropping (well, mostly Heath to rescue thanks to the shitty female mounted rescue formula and Vaida just killed shit) and Physicspamming. It can be replicated with any 1-2 trained fliers, really. Warp is not necessary to beat it in 20 turns, and you should have a few fliers on hand that rescuedropping or just kill her with fliers shouldn't be a problem. If you didn't train ANY the game at least throws you Vaida and you can probably Barrier/Water + Ninis Grace her if you're so worried about Limmy's mag. Giving the Boots to Hector also helps. I don't actually play efficiently in FE7 most of the time, but I still found it very doable. Well, having to rush is something I'm not exactly accustomed to since I'm more a defensive player unless it's necessary (like in Battle before Dawn). Well, that, and I don't feel it's really worth the trouble anyway... Edited January 27, 2012 by Metal King Slime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 I guess all those reinforcements gives massive exp to make up, which is nice for casual play. Ranked assumes every chapter except 19xx, and I don't know how much tactics rank buffer you'd have then, but probably not enough to chill there for like 30 or so turns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) I guess all those reinforcements gives massive exp to make up, which is nice for casual play. Ranked assumes every chapter except 19xx, and I don't know how much tactics rank buffer you'd have then, but probably not enough to chill there for like 30 or so turns. I assume you're talking about VoD's reinforcements. Also, I don't really feel as if I'm missing out on much if I fail to get the chance to go to 32x. And I hate getting waylaid by reinforcements... from behind - it drives me into a state of panic (or at the least, gets to be an inconvenience). Edited January 27, 2012 by Metal King Slime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) VoD reinforcements indeed. They're...pretty easy anyway, IMO. 32x only has Zerks and Kishuna as far as I've played so besides those swordslayer guys (Lancereaver or Hector gogo) they shouldn't be much of an issue. Edited January 27, 2012 by Luminescent Blade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) VoD reinforcements indeed. They're...pretty easy anyway, IMO. 32x only has Zerks and Kishuna as far as I've played so besides those swordslayer guys (Lancereaver or Hector gogo) they shouldn't be much of an issue. Kinda figured. IMHO, 32x just doesn't have anything of value that makes me think it's worth rushing through VoD, anyhow. Edited January 27, 2012 by Metal King Slime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 8/10. Comes late but hes good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 9/10 silencer and god awesome filler. Who else is killing Limstella? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordsalmon Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Cool bases and lockpick use. 5/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliban of Sycorax Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Jaffar... is a lot better than people give him credit for. He's got great stats and has Silencer. With him around, there's no need to promote Matthew or Legault. His recruitment isn't the best (but it is doable, the RNG is a bitch though). He can destroy nearly anything with a Killing Edge, and he's really the best candidate for it. I don't remember if FE7!Assassins can use the Wo Dao, but if they can, well, that's awesome. His HP leaves a lot to be desired, but the fact that he kills... everything overrides that. 9.5/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Am I the only one who saves the light brand for Jaffar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I never even usually get it in the first place, tbh, and when I do, it's a ranked run and it sits in storage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arvilino Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) A nice late game pre-promote, though not as good as Harken or Raven by that time, his stats(19 Str and 15 Def for a Sword User who's going to be doubling everything and has nice evade(though 34 HP is a bit lacking) is quite impressive. He comes at a high level but since Assassins get the same EXP bonus thieves Valkyries and Female Bishops get(along with 1.8x for when Silencer activates) he can gain a few levels quite easily(which mostly just adds a bit of survivability to him based on his growths). 6/10 Edited January 27, 2012 by arvilino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I just realized. His growths suck. But those bases.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Factoring in the join time, there are many units that will be as good as him statistically, however he does have great utility in the form of Lockpicks, and if you haven't bothered promoting Matthew or Legault, he is undoubtedly the best unit to replace them to go chest and door opening for the remainder of the game. His Combat is pretty good too. Can't really give him a higher score than Harken though, so Raven's rating: 60% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) Am I the only one who saves the light brand for Jaffar? Ehhh, if only the Light Brand didn't suck... it's pathetic at 2 range (hint: half strength at range + weapon Mt, more often than not, won't be very impresive). That aside, sometimes I don't even get it at all (one copy requires you to go to Jerme's map - I much prefer Kenneth's map - and the other is in the desert). Edited January 27, 2012 by Metal King Slime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geriba Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Ranked assumes every chapter except 19xx The hell? It most certainly does not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Personally I go to all the gaidens, as they are all pretty productive (with the exception of 19xx, but even that helps with funds on a ranked run). But yeah, people who are tight for tactics won't be going to 32x, so they certainly aren't assumed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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