VincentASM Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 I was wondering when a guidebook would arrive and now we've got two releasing very soon. Nintendo Official Guidebook Perfect Guidebook (If the links don't work, search for ファイアーエムブレム 覚醒 ガイドブック) Anyone interested in picking one of these up? The description for the Perfect Guidebook states that it includes "growth rate" potentials or something for characters and classes. I'm hoping those are actual growth rates and not those silly rank things, please D: I'm interested in the official guidebook, but YesAsia hasn't listed it yet (but they do have the Perfect Guidebook). I'm assuming the contents are more or less the same, given how these guidebooks usually work, but I'm a slightly bigger fan of Shogakukan's works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashGordon94 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 I'm hoping for growths too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Stalker X Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 A bit surprised it took nearly a month for a guidebook to come out, but I'm looking forward to it. Also, I tried looking at YesAsia, and I didn't see any listings for either guidebook. Do you think you can put up a link to the Perfect Guidebook you saw Vincent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted May 14, 2012 Author Share Posted May 14, 2012 YesAsia is a bit funny sometimes and lists some Japanese items under their romaji. I guess they've probably got a LOT of items in stock, so don't bother checking through every item. I remember paying tons of money to get a FE book, then I suddenly found it on YesAsia new and much cheaper when I searched it in Japanese >___< Anyway: Perfect guidebook @ YesAsia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Stalker X Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 YesAsia is a bit funny sometimes and lists some Japanese items under their romaji. I guess they've probably got a LOT of items in stock, so don't bother checking through every item. I remember paying tons of money to get a FE book, then I suddenly found it on YesAsia new and much cheaper when I searched it in Japanese >___< Anyway: Perfect guidebook @ YesAsia Ah, thanks. I'll look into getting either that or the official guide when they come out (assuming YesAsia will have the official guide available). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 I'm tempted, but with how much I'm spending lately such as to have the game in the first place, I think I'll hold off a bit and see if someone else gets the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted May 17, 2012 Author Share Posted May 17, 2012 It seems some people have the guidebook(s?) now. The images are kind of blurry, but I think I'm seeing growth... ranks. >___< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shun One Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 It seems some people have the guidebook(s?) now. The images are kind of blurry, but I think I'm seeing growth... ranks. >___< Where are these images? The only one I've currently seen is just some art of Luchina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No. 3 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Mariabel's page The Famitsu guidebook just has join requirements, class sets, recommended classes, starting weapon ranks, starting items, starting stats and stat growth in bar form (no numbers, no indication whether or not it includes class modifiers), so it's not really useful data-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Stalker X Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Mariabel's page The Famitsu guidebook just has join requirements, class sets, recommended classes, starting weapon ranks, starting items, starting stats and stat growth in bar form (no numbers, no indication whether or not it includes class modifiers), so it's not really useful data-wise. This is all coming from the Perfect guidebook, right? In that case, we'd have to wait for images from the official guidebook to be certain if there is any real data to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterique Sign Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 I hope it has pictures of all the characters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shun One Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 I hope it has pictures of all the characters Thus far, there is this image of... Masked Marth spoilers Luchina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted May 17, 2012 Author Share Posted May 17, 2012 It seems the character index has ousted Emelina, Inverse and Renha as future sidequest characters, although there was little doubt it was them. Curiously there's no mention of Paris and instead Marth is listed on the last page. Is it even possible that another another another Marth is the final sidequest character or they're actually listing DLC Marth? I'm hoping it's the latter. Either way, Paris's identity will probably remain a mystery for much longer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 It seems the character index has ousted Emelina, Inverse and Renha as future sidequest characters, although there was little doubt it was them. Curiously there's no mention of Paris and instead Marth is listed on the last page. Is it even possible that another another another Marth is the final sidequest character or they're actually listing DLC Marth? I'm hoping it's the latter. Either way, Paris's identity will probably remain a mystery for much longer... They're probably just keeping him a secret; he does seem to be special. Valhart showing up after two weeks was a pleasant surprise. At this rate, we may very well get the rest of the SpotPass maps in the next two months to see for ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shun One Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 It seems the character index has ousted Emelina, Inverse and Renha as future sidequest characters, although there was little doubt it was them. Curiously there's no mention of Paris and instead Marth is listed on the last page. Is it even possible that another another another Marth is the final sidequest character or they're actually listing DLC Marth? I'm hoping it's the latter. Either way, Paris's identity will probably remain a mystery for much longer... Let's hope it is just DLC Marth they're talking about. If it's not, then...interesting. That would make one too many Marth's for my take, but I wouldn't find it unusual that there was an actual Marth in game that had supports and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted May 18, 2012 Author Share Posted May 18, 2012 The official guidebook only uses growth ranks as well. I'm under the impression they may have charts for class growths since every character seems to have way better Luck growth than their other stats. Hmm, maybe I should have saved images of the growth ranks... What I did save... Liz and Sumia (from the points card) Sumia's OA (from the CD, nice!) Philein (NPC, not uploaded atm) [spoiler=SpotPass]Emelina's stats (HUGE image, will downsize soon... actually make that later) Can't see her Skills : ( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnd Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 >"Magic growth is the highest among all characters" >B rank What is this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted May 18, 2012 Author Share Posted May 18, 2012 Some details I could find : o Weapon Level - Weapon Exp needed E - 1 D - 16 C - 36 B - 66 A - 96 My Unit's best/worst stat affects growth rates as expected, but they don't go into much detail. Choosing HP as best/worst raises/drops HP, Def and Res growths. Other stats change corresponding to the base stat changes, listed on the main site. Growth ranks: Char MHP STR MAG SKL SPD LCK DEF RES My Unit C C D D D B D E Krom C C E C C A D E Liz D E D D D B E D Fred. B C E C D C C E Viole D C D C C C D D Link for reference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Bastaki Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Thus far, there is this image of... Masked Marth spoilers Luchina this made me love the character even more :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Growth ranks: Char MHP STR MAG SKL SPD LCK DEF RES My Unit C C D D D B D E Krom C C E C C A D E Liz D E D D D B E D Fred. B C E C D C C E Viole D C D C C C D D Poor Liz, every stat is bad except Luck. I say that, but it's probably more like 0-20% is E, 20-40% is D, and so on. So are these base growth rates? Or are these their growth rates in their base class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewjeo Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 I like how, besides luck, Frederick is the only unit there to get above a C rank growth rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velth Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 So are these base growth rates? Or are these their growth rates in their base class? I'm pretty sure these are personal growth rates , because I've seen Fred as GK gain +2 hp which indicates an over 100% growth (or B means you have over 100% growth in that stat? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arvilino Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Poor Liz, every stat is bad except Luck. I say that, but it's probably more like 0-20% is E, 20-40% is D, and so on. So are these base growth rates? Or are these their growth rates in their base class? It's probably base growth rates. If we compare the values as the lowest(E=0,D=20,etc.) and then highest possible(E=20,D=40,etc.) and compare them against a Viole one one of my files. Viole:LV 18 HP:30 (22.2, 25.4) STR:14 (12.4, 15.6) MAG:1 (3.2, 6.4) SKL:20 (15.4, 18.6) SPD:18 (11.4, 14.6) LUK:13 (13.4, 16.6) DEF:14 (9.4, 12.4) RES:6 (4.2, 7.4) While 16 levels isn't too big of a sample. Some the stat differences(HP,SPD,MAG) are big enough to suggest the his base class is having an effect not shown by the ratings in the guide book. Liz: 17 HP:29(20.2,23.4) STR:6(1.0 ,4.2) MAG:12(8.2,11.4) SKL:12(8.2,11.3) SPD: 11(7.2.10.4) LUK:20(17.6,20.8) DEF: 9(3.0,6.2) RES 11(7.2,10.4) Again alot of the stats are actually higher than predicted. The only close values are the ones is assuming the highest possible growth in every single stat and Luck which never has a class growth. HP is alot higher again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murdok Dracul Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Liz and Sumia (from the points card) Hey look, there's Sumia. Kneeling down. With her cleavage showing. Quick everyone, grab your torches and pitchforks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Hey look, there's Sumia. Kneeling down. With her cleavage showing. Quick everyone, grab your torches and pitchforks. Way to strawman, bro. I really like Sumia's OA, for what it's worth. Is there going to be a better quality image of that at any point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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